The High Mileage Thread.

I Was VB

Been a few post on here about buying high mileage motors lately, about if they're worth buying or not. As some may know i've more than one high mile motor. 94 Toyota Corona 418K klms, 03 Toyota Avensis 360K mls, 05 Skoda Superb 291K klms. All of which have never broken down service costs are on par with the average. So would ya still buy a high mileage car?? Or what do ya consider a high mileage car??

bazz26

Average Joe Public in this country thinks anything with 100k kilometers or miles plus is a time bomb ready to explode at any time and must therefore be avoided.

cadaliac

Yes I would most definitely buy a high miler, if it was in good condition.
I would consider anything over 150,00 miles high mileage.

Cars are well capable of much more but, they need to be looked after correctly, and not just regular servicing intervals.
Parts need to be replaced when needed and not left neglected, ie worn bushings and suspension parts.

thewintermute

anything over 250,000 miles would be my limit to buy, as I cover a lot of miles myself. Definitely wouldnt be but off by 100-150k. Both our cars are over 125 now and very very fresh.

VolvoMan

I'd have no problem buying a high mileage car, as long as it had service history.

Matt Simis

VolvoMan wrote: »

I'd have no problem buying a high mileage car, as long as it had service history.

My Audi has 178k miles and had no Service history. Living on the edge! :pac:

Alfa 156 - 156k miles
BMW 850CSi - 122k Miles


Had a 530i and an Audi Allroad too, 150k odd miles. I replaced a bunch of stuff in both but likely would have done the same with 80k miles less.

Needler

285,000 km on my Peugeot 405, still going good

Very subjective. Depends on the engine really. If a car is well maintained and the engine is known to be good for huge mileage i would take a punt on anything up to 250k on the clock. very few engines would qualify as known to be good for 250k upwards. One I know first hand that is is the 4efe if oil is changed at short intervals.

bijapos

^ This. I've no problem buying anything with high mileage, its all about maintenance. I've had a few 70's and 80's Merc diesel cars and also 207 and 608 vans with collossal mileage and they will handle any mileage if they are properly maintained.

For me personally two cars I've had stick out. A 1991 300TE Auto, bought in 94 with 240,000km was still going strong on the original engine and gearbox when it was written off at 891,000km.

1988 Opel Senator 3.0 Auto, got it with over 600,000km on the clock, I knew the two previous owners, one was a sales rep and the second owner essentially did a 200km round trip on a motorway Mon-Fri with 4 adults in it for 12 years, I had it for a few months, sold it to a mate, it now has 770,000km on it, original engine and box.

Both cars had regular oil changes and were serviced at home or in independent garages. Things were replaced when they were getting worn out, not when they were broken and making a racket. Its all about proper maintenance.

VolvoMan

bijapos wrote: »

1988 Opel Senator 3.0 Auto, got it with over 600,000km on the clock, I knew the two previous owners, one was a sales rep and the second owner essentially did a 200km round trip on a motorway Mon-Fri with 4 adults in it for 12 years, I had it for a few months, sold it to a mate, it now has 770,000km on it, original engine and box.

Love those cars. They were easily the match of a period BMW in build quality and engineering.

bijapos

VolvoMan wrote: »

Love those cars. They were easily the match of a period BMW in build quality and engineering.

And an equal match if not better in seat and ride comfort to any Merc or Audi. I only had the car 5 months, I needed it for a contract I had at the time but put up over 25,000km in those months driving from Germany to Italy and back, absolutely brilliant motorway cruiser.

Personally I would prefer to buy a car with lower mileage. I bought my last car with 87k miles and I wouldn't buy that high again. 140k on it now and its going to be hard to move on.

I'm tired of bits and pieces going all the time, suspension, brakes, leaks here and there etc etc. I be aiming to buy something around the 50k mark the next time, looking forward to not waiting for the next niggley problem to arise.

flyingsnail

While we are on the subject. Here is a 2.9 Million mile Volvo Link

_Kaiser_

06 2L TDI Passat with DSG

Bought in April 08 with 56k km on it
Now has 176k km

Aside from the DMF needing replacing and the usual wear and tear items it's still going strong, but I know when I do go to change it it won't be worth buttons, despite the condition and full VW maln dealer history, because of the mileage

-Corkie-

180K miles on a B5.5 Passat TDI.
280K KMS on a 07 Passat TDI.

The B5.5 Passat never gave an ounce of trouble. The 07 had a lot of money spent on it before I bought it and was trouble free. Its gone now I am driving nothing.

Gone Drinking

The high mileage club? Yea i'm in it.. banged a chick in a 92 ford escort, with over 200 thousand on the clock.

TheBazman

2007 535d with 161k kms. No major probs only usual service things.

Jimdagym

Gone Drinking wrote: »

The high mileage club? Yea i'm in it.. banged a chick in a 92 ford escort, with over 200 thousand on the clock.

She had, or the car?

Hal1

160km's in my mk1 focus.

Gary ITR

140000 miles on my car, in the last 10000miles she started to burn a sup of oilso shes getting new rings and a bore

savagecabbages

My first car was a Mk3 Golf 1.4 CL had 168k when I got it.
Nothing other than usual maintenance apart from the first sub-zero night after I got it the head gasket began to leak as there wasn't enough antifreeze in the water... Kinda a hard thing to check with a second hand car. I had only been checking the level. Silly me all the same for allowing it to happen.
The old VWs were indestructible if looked after.

I consider anything above 150k miles as high.
I'd be looking to buy a car with <100k miles if possible, but some cars can handle mileage better than others. Not wishing to offend anyone, but I've a high-mileage blacklist with basically all French and Italian cars on it!!

hoodie6029

It's a psychological thing that when a car has over 100k on the clock its finished because for so long that was the case. Either the engine or body were knackered.
The cars have moved on but the mindset hasn't.
With modern rustproofing on the body on the more reliable engines a high miler is an attractive purchase if you're looking to save a few bob. It's where i'll be looking for my next purchase.

I Was VB

hoodie6029 wrote: »

It's a psychological thing that when a car has over 100k on the clock its finished because for so long that was the case. Either the engine or body were knackered.
The cars have moved on but the mindset hasn't.
With modern rustproofing on the body on the more reliable engines a high miler is an attractive purchase if you're looking to save a few bob. It's where i'll be looking for my next purchase.

Manufactures still class 100K miles as a lifetime in a cars life.

http://www.vauxhall.co.uk/owners_services/warranty_assistance/vauxhall_lifetime_warranty.html

We’re so confident in Vauxhall quality and reliability that we are now offering a warranty that could last a Lifetime! Available to the first owner of all new Vauxhall passenger cars, it’s valid for the lifetime of the vehicle up to a maximum of 100,000 miles.

How does it work?




Year 1
All new Vauxhall passenger cars are covered by a one-year unlimited mileage manufacturer’s warranty with qualifying repairs at no cost to you.

Years 2 & 3
The manufacturer’s warranty is extended for two more years up to a maximum of 60,000 miles.

Lifetime!
After that, Vauxhall provides a unique Lifetime Warranty, available to the first owner for an unlimited time period and a maximum of 100.000 miles.

Don’t forget, every new Vauxhall vehicle also comes with:

• A full 6 year anti-perforation corrosion warranty, with no mileage restriction, subject to an annual corrosion protection service.
• 12 months free Vauxhall Assistance, covering UK and mainland Europe.

What is covered?

All Vauxhall warranties cover a huge range of vehicle parts – powertrain and steering, brake parts, cooling, safety systems, air-conditioning, electronic components and more. As with all new vehicle warranties, some things are not covered, of course, such as routine service and maintenance items, natural wear and tear, or if any non-approved modifications or conversions are carried out.




Free of charge vehicle repairs

The Vauxhall warranty is provided via a Vauxhall Authorised Repairer. All you have to do is present your Warranty Card along with your completed and up-to-date Service Booklet to a Vauxhall Authorised Repairer. The lifetime warranty is dependent on an annual vehicle check at an Vauxhall Authorised Repairer who will activate the warranty extension for another year.

Available on all new Vauxhall passenger cars from 1st August 2010.

killwill

This mileage debate interests me as I am looking to get a diesel car on the next couple of weeks and am wondering how long will the flywheel last in a typical diesel car? I am looking at a 2.2 Saab 9-3 as my possible car incase that is relevant.

Bigus

is this high enough for you ,? 232000 miles or 373000km

I actually drove this and it was excellent at 232k miles !













http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110125/bc_olsen_prius_reliability_110125/20110125?hub=BritishColumbiaHome

Leonard Hofstadter

Bigus wrote: »

is this high enough for you ,? 232000 miles or 373000km

I actually drove this and it was excellent at 232k miles !













http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110125/bc_olsen_prius_reliability_110125/20110125?hub=BritishColumbiaHome

A +1 on this, you can say many things about hybrids (I am not a particularly big fan of them) but even though they certainly are not anything like as good in the real world as they are claimed to be (no better than many's the diesel of similar size and power, especially on the open road), the one massive advantage a hybrid has over a diesel car is that the reliability of them has been absolutely superb.

If anything they are more reliable than a conventional petrol, and this in many ways is not surprising, because the internal combustion engine has less work to do, especially in town driving.

Town driving, low speed driving and stop/start driving is where the vast majority of engine wear occurs. There is virtually no engine wear at higher speeds unless you've got the car at the redline a lot of the time and/or driving the absolute crap out of it.

Since hybrids only use the combustion engine at higher speeds where less wear occurs, it is therefore not surprising that the hybrids are more reliable, because basically it's like a conventional car that is only ever used on main roads, and never gets used in town.

In another post I have argued against modern diesels, not because they are complex, but because the complex stuff fails far too often.

VolvoMan

captainspeed wrote: »

In another post I have argued against modern diesels, not because they are complex, but because the complex stuff fails far too often.

I also think modern diesels still sound sh1t; even when they're six cylinder, eight cylinder or V12.

griffin100

Volvo s60 d5 with 196k miles. Outside of consumables and feckin rear suspension parts no big problems - its currently having rear shocks, drop links and anti roll bar bushes fitted - feckin sh1te roads. Never need to top up oil. Don't give it any special treatment, every 10k change oil and filter and get a local mechanic to give it a once over.

unkel

griffin100 wrote: »

Volvo s60 d5 with 196k miles. Outside of consumables and feckin rear suspension parts no big problems - its currently having rear shocks, drop links and anti roll bar bushes fitted - feckin sh1te roads. Never need to top up oil. Don't give it any special treatment, every 10k change oil and filter and get a local mechanic to give it a once over.

Is that the first big suspension job? If so the car has done very well! I guess the improvement in Irish roads in the past decade will have made a huge difference for many cars...

EPM

VolvoMan wrote: »

I also think modern diesels still sound sh1t; even when they're six cylinder, eight cylinder or V12.

Big engines aren't that bad. 4cyl are horrible though

JJJJNR

215,000km and overall car is perfect, just flew through the nct with a new a CV boot, huge improvement over the last car which I put a 100,000 miles on, it felt soft and worn out, roads are a major factor. I only drive up and down the N11 the old yoke used to drive over the Dublin mountains almost daily.. HELL :mad:

mikewest

Stupid damn Nissan Almera 2.2DI just died at 273K miles. Should have been able to do 400K anyway. Previous owner must have hockyed it something terrible cause I only put 199,000 miles on it:(

Row

Took this a few months ago on my way to work...:)
Its a 96 peugeot 406 Td on its original clutch..:eek:...:D

I know of a 98 passat 1.9 tdi with 360,000 mls and is going strong.
All i can say "They don't make'em like they us used to"...:rolleyes:

Midnight_EG

Bigus wrote: »

is this high enough for you ,? 232000 miles or 373000km

I actually drove this and it was excellent at 232k miles !

http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110125/bc_olsen_prius_reliability_110125/20110125?hub=BritishColumbiaHome

The most boring 232k miles ever no doubt :P




Both my cars have low mileage for the years, the 95 Civic had 102k miles on it when I bought it (now has 117k miles) and the 98 Civic had 112k kilometres (now 130k!)

Bigus

no i didn't put the miles on it , i just had the privilege of driving it after the miles were put on it by somebody else.

Have you ever driven one to qualify your boring remarks ???

Midnight_EG

Bigus wrote: »

no i didn't put the miles on it , i just had the privilege of driving it after the miles were put on it by somebody else.

Have you ever driven one to qualify your boring remarks ???

A Prius is hardly exciting to drive now...

Bigus

Midnight_EG wrote: »

A Prius is hardly exciting to drive now...

So you haven't driven one so.....


I never said they were exciting but they are certainly not boring.


Have you driven one ?

Midnight_EG

Bigus wrote: »

So you haven't driven one so.....


I never said they were exciting but they are certainly not boring.


Have you driven one ?

Nope, and I hope I never do to be honest. It's a boring, ugly car.

johnos1984

My 2006 Pissat is on 126K miles or 201000KM

All original according to the service records

Bigus

Midnight_EG wrote: »

Nope, and I hope I never do to be honest. It's a boring, ugly car.

It's always amazing the way people who never drove a Prius berate them and yet the one's who drive them see the point straight away.

At least we all know now for the record that you haven't driven one yet, so feel free to make UNqualified comments.

Midnight_EG

Bigus wrote: »

It's always amazing the way people who never drove a Prius berate them and yet the one's who drive them see the point straight away.

At least we all know now for the record that you haven't driven one yet, so feel free to make UNqualified comments.

It resembles a slug, it goes like one too with 98bhp/110 with the electric motor...boring and ugly, I stand by that.

Voodoomelon

Whilst I would have no problem buying a high mileage car, I'd still strive to buy as low miles as possible. Personally I like to start around 60k miles or more. Saving a couple of % off the cost by going with 30k miles more makes little sense, 30k miles is 4 years of driving for me.

johnos1984

Then again buy a high mileage car cheap put lots of miles on and sell it after.

You don't loose too much as you saved at the start

Senna

My Freelander 2.0td has 190k miles and i had a e300td with 260k miles, ran beautify and i would have put another couple of 100k on it if it hadn't be for ill placed bump in the road:(

An Ri rua

My Xantia HDi, year 2000, has 196k of which I put 126k on it. One owner car sat in a Nissan garage. I took it in after my 2.0 16v snapped its timing belt and its been the best car, and Xantia (I've had three) that I've ever owned.

Original clutch, only changed rear fuel lift pump in 2007 (known problem), the usual timing belts and tensioners etc when due and a camwheel last summer. Its pulled trailers up and down the country, commuted at lightspeed to Dublin on backroads and motorways and started daily during THE WORST winter in recent record (although it wasn't happy) and its acted as a 4x4 on roads you wouldn't put a car. And its still very presentable when it gets a wash!!

Eric Cartman

Bigus wrote: »

It's always amazing the way people who never drove a Prius berate them and yet the one's who drive them see the point straight away.

At least we all know now for the record that you haven't driven one yet, so feel free to make UNqualified comments.

Having driven a 2006 and 2010 prius , the lexus rx400h and rx450h I feel somewhat qualified to say - dont buy a toyota hybrid.

steering with 0 feeling , almost no driver response in any way, sluggish acceleration, enough computer systems to insure you have absolutely 0 fun especially going round corners, ugly cars , ugly interiors, terrible satnav.

You could literally fall asleep at the wheel those cars are so boring. If any other hybrids drive like that then jesus I pity the future of cars.

tagoraman

Hi,
what about this high mileage for 09 car?
I have got 09 Opel Insignia with 223193 km on it.
Going Holland and Germany in it next week.
I hope it makes it:)

kearney13

Know a fella that had a 2001 tdi golf with 470000 miles before he sold it, sumps were his only problem, he now owns a 07 golf tdi with 390000kms on it and no major problems

166man

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Having driven a 2006 and 2010 prius , the lexus rx400h and rx450h I feel somewhat qualified to say - dont buy a toyota hybrid.

steering with 0 feeling , almost no driver response in any way, sluggish acceleration, enough computer systems to insure you have absolutely 0 fun especially going round corners, ugly cars , ugly interiors, terrible satnav.

You could literally fall asleep at the wheel those cars are so boring. If any other hybrids drive like that then jesus I pity the future of cars.

But you're missing the point. Fluid steering and responsive handling are not the point of the Prius. It's designed as a comfortable and economical reliable car and it does that job well in my opinion.

ianobrien

My current daily driver (05 Almera) has just passed 200k km last week. I know it's not much, but I bought it when it was two years old with 17km on the clock. It's serviced at home every 15km and has just ever needed fluids, filters and pads. There was a blown heater motor resistor pack and I just changed the original shocks two months ago. The car does get quite a death, setting up forestry rally stages and night nav's. It was also pressed into service for a classic rally as the other car wasn't ready!

There was an '96' Micra that the mother had when we were all in collage. That car got quite a hard life, with three learning to drive in the car, and some "enthusiastic" driving from us (we managed to bend the anti-roll bar once). We got rid of it at 160k miles for some strange reason. That motor never let us down....

SJPK

00 Toyota Yaris 1.0 petrol - 172,000 miles!
original engine, clutch, gearbox etc...
serviced every 8,000 miles from 50,000 miles 6 years ago

00 1.9 TDI Octavia, previously a taxi- 220/30,000 miles
never maitained, is only ever looked at when the lights in the dash come on :P
still on original clutch, g.box n engine of course!!