Man jailed for 15 years over Co Cork rape

Sunnyisland

A man has been jailed for 15 years for ambushing a woman in the public toilets of a Co Cork town and subjecting her to 30 minutes of rape and sexual violence in what was described as one of the most serious cases of rape to come before the courts.
Przemyslaw Jakubowski, 36, has previous convictions for attempted rape and robbery in his native Poland and had only been in Ireland for a few months when he carried out the offences.
He was convicted of 11 counts of rape, sexual assault, false imprisonment and threats to kill in May following a 12-day trial.
The court heard he does not accept the jury's verdict.



How was he let into the country with them convictions in the first place, Is there no one in authority tagging these people ?

Seachmall

Chemical Castration.
Deportation.

Micky Dolenz

Good to see serious crime getting a serious sentence

cocoshovel

What happened to the usual suspended sentence, or 5 years in jail but out in 3 for good behavior? Oh well, I'm not complaining. Lets see if he will actually get to serve it all.

Chuck Stone

Creepy bastard.

mikemac

15 years is a serious sentance

Well done to the judge

Mr. Manager

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Good to see serious crime getting a serious sentence

I sincerely hope that's to be taken sarcastically.

15 years is not a serious sentence for cases such as that.

Show Time

He should be at least looking at thirty years locked up.

Micky Dolenz

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

I sincerely hope that's to be taken sarcastically.

15 years is not a serious sentence for cases such as that.

People get less for murder aka manslaughter in this country.

Sunnyisland

mikemac wrote: »

15 years is a serious sentance

Well done to the judge

He said were it not for the fact that Jakubowski was a foreign national, he would have imposed a sentence of between 17 and 20 years.
But he had to take into account the fact that a prison sentence could be more isolating for someone who did not have roots in this country.

IMO He should have been given the 20 years does not matter where your from, end of.

AckwelFoley

15 years is not half long enough

He'll be out in 6, and sent back to poland - and back here again within weeks

7sr2z3fely84g5

Probably be out in less,take into account if sentence is backdated,and time off for good behaviour inside.

Ruu_Old

Prison sentence then deported. He should consider himself privileged to live better off than where he came from and if you act the ****, then you're out son.

charlemont

Same question people on the continent will ask when Larry Murphy strikes again...


Yes, Its about time someone got a long sentence as what he done was sick.

AckwelFoley

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

People get less for murder aka manslaughter in this country.

..because in some cases manslaughter is not near as bad as this crime.

You rape my missus, i catch you in the act, i kill you - without question

Personally you deserve it, and i should get the freedom of the city - but the law is funny like that. I may get murder or manslaughter and end up spending 12 years in jail

AckwelFoley

Ruu wrote: »

Prison sentence then deported. He should consider himself privileged to live better off than where he came from and if you act the ****, then you're out son.

Correct. But in this case he was living in cork.

Your point is therefore moot

Duggy747

How do these sick bastards manage to get in un-noticed? He should've gotten 20 years, feck his "roots" since he obviously didn't give a shìte about them when he was abusing that woman in the toilets.

Make him serve his full sentence and send him back home.

Sonnenblumen

realies wrote: »

A man has been jailed for 15 years for ambushing a woman in the public toilets of a Co Cork town and subjecting her to 30 minutes of rape and sexual violence in what was described as one of the most serious cases of rape to come before the courts.
Przemyslaw Jakubowski, 36, has previous convictions for attempted rape and robbery in his native Poland and had only been in Ireland for a few months when he carried out the offences.
He was convicted of 11 counts of rape, sexual assault, false imprisonment and threats to kill in May following a 12-day trial.
The court heard he does not accept the jury's verdict.



How was he let into the country with them convictions in the first place, Is there no one in authority tagging these people ?

Anyone understand the Judge rationale which reduced the sentence because the convicted was foreign? Sounds like inverse racism? Jaysus, what next?

I hope there'll be plenty of close encounters inside for that J'bowski.

Mr. Manager

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

People get less for murder aka manslaughter in this country.

That doesn't make his sentence any tougher.

It just makes previous judges bigger idiots for giving a 6 year jail term with half of it suspended for murder (manslaughter).

Son Of A Vidic

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

I sincerely hope that's to be taken sarcastically.

15 years is not a serious sentence for cases such as that.

Well it certainly beats the usually shyte of 6-8 years.

Micky Dolenz

snyper wrote: »

..because in some cases manslaughter is not near as bad as this crime.

But in all manslaughter cases, the victims are dead. That's pretty bad.

AckwelFoley

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

But in all manslaughter cases, the victims are dead. That's pretty bad.

If a certain murphy was dead the world would not weep

Mr. Manager

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Well it certainly beats the usually shyte of 6-8 years.

Of course it does. It doesn't deem 15 years for "11 counts of rape, sexual assault, false imprisonment and threats to kill" justifiable.

Sunnyisland

Sonnenblumen wrote: »

I hope there'll be plenty of close encounters inside for that J'bowski.

He be serving his sentence in arbour hill with his like minded friends,He will feel quite at home.

charlemont

snyper wrote: »

15 years is not half long enough

He'll be out in 6, and sent back to poland - and back here again within weeks

11 Years and 3 Months although its probably been backdated to when he first went into custody.

I agree he should have got longer.

Zebra3

realies wrote: »

A man has been jailed for 15 years for ambushing a woman in the public toilets of a Co Cork town and subjecting her to 30 minutes of rape and sexual violence in what was described as one of the most serious cases of rape to come before the courts.
Przemyslaw Jakubowski, 36, has previous convictions for attempted rape and robbery in his native Poland and had only been in Ireland for a few months when he carried out the offences.
He was convicted of 11 counts of rape, sexual assault, false imprisonment and threats to kill in May following a 12-day trial.
The court heard he does not accept the jury's verdict.



How was he let into the country with them convictions in the first place, Is there no one in authority tagging these people ?

He is a national of an EU state and has the right to reside in any other EU state.

The people of Ireland approved of this law.

Overheal

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Good to see serious crime getting a serious sentence

Only for the Polish Immigrants. Former Rugby Stars and Police Officers notwithstanding.

Mr. Manager

Zebra3 wrote: »

He is a national of an EU state and has the right to reside in any other EU state.

The people of Ireland approved of this law.

What's that got to do with the price of eggs?

Micky Dolenz

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

That doesn't make his sentence any tougher.

It just makes previous judges bigger idiots for giving a 6 year jail term with half of it suspended for murder (manslaughter).

I agree. But in law, cases are comparable and so are sentences. In that respect the judge seems to have broken away for precedent.

Son Of A Vidic

Judicial sentencing in this country for certain types of crime is an absolute disgrace and repeatedly inconsistent. This running 'concurrently' bullshít needs to stop. It is an insult both to the victims of crime and their families. "Ah sure we'll let ya serve it all together", sorry you did the crime, now do the time.

cocoshovel

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Judicial sentencing in this country for certain types of crime is an absolute disgrace and repeatedly inconsistent. This running 'concurrently' bullshít needs to stop. It is an insult both to the victims of crime and their families.

It is a fu**ing disgrace, so why don't we do something about it. Lets get out there and pressure the government for this to be improved. Nearly everyone wants a better system, yet I rarely hear about anybody pushing for one.

Now, I don't know much about how the system works or who to question about this but I think its about time we dropped the typical Irish attitude of "Ah shur what can I do" and get f*ck up to Dublin and demand this, make a petition, all write letters, protest or do whatever the hell will make them realize what we want. Unless of course there is absolutely NO way at all we could pull it off? Which I doubt.

Zebra3

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

What's that got to do with the price of eggs?

Nothing. Why would you even think it has anything to do with the price of eggs?

However if you take the time to read the post I quoted, the penny may just drop with you.... :rolleyes:

MagicMarker

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

I sincerely hope that's to be taken sarcastically.

15 years is not a serious sentence for cases such as that.

Ironic username is ironic.

Sunnyisland

Zebra3 wrote: »

He is a national of an EU state and has the right to reside in any other EU state.

The people of Ireland approved of this law.

I am quite aware of him being a eu national what I am saying or asking here is there not some sort of tagging device for serious offenders who can travel within Eu borders,I am sure yer man larry murphy is being closely watched.

Cork Lass

What I don't understand is that he got a shorter sentence because he was Polish. If he was Irish he would have gotten a longer sentence - am I wrong in thinking that this reeks of discrimination. I don't give a stuff where he's from but he committed the crime here. Surely this is wrong. Going forward this could open the door for other serious offenders to request lesser sentences on the basis of nationality.

Judgement Day

realies wrote: »

A man has been jailed for 15 years for ambushing a woman in the public toilets of a Co Cork town and subjecting her to 30 minutes of rape and sexual violence in what was described as one of the most serious cases of rape to come before the courts.
Przemyslaw Jakubowski, 36, has previous convictions for attempted rape and robbery in his native Poland and had only been in Ireland for a few months when he carried out the offences.
He was convicted of 11 counts of rape, sexual assault, false imprisonment and threats to kill in May following a 12-day trial.
The court heard he does not accept the jury's verdict.



How was he let into the country with them convictions in the first place, Is there no one in authority tagging these people ?

I wrote to Michael "Last Sting of a dying Wasp" McDowell about this very sort of situation when he was Minister for Justice. It was in relation to a case involving an Eastern European with a long record of serious crime including rape before he arrived in Ireland. He was convicted of a violent rape in the west of Ireland in 2007. I asked McDowell why we allowed scumbags like the individual in question into the country when we already have plenty of the homegrown variety. Needless to say all I got by way of a reply was a holding letter and he left government shortly afterwards.

Somebody with a criminal record from Ireland wouldn't have a hope of getting into the USA so why do we let them in here? I doubt very many Irish people would have voted to join the EEC/EU or for Maastricht if they had known that it would lead to the emptying of the detritus of Eastern Europe into our country. As I have said in other threads we need strict passport controls as we currently don't have a clue who is entering our country or why. However, as this is Ireland there isn't the slightest chance that anything will change now or ever. :mad:

As an aside, I don't think that our own scumbags/serious criminals etc should be allowed to leave the country once they are released from prison and in the case of well known professional/homicidal criminals their citizenship and passports should be revoked. Why should we expect other countries - especially the UK to take our filth?

Mr. Manager

MagicMarker wrote: »

Ironic username is ironic.

I've actually had someone report my username when I posted in a previous thread of a 13 year old girl who went missing and was found in the canal.

starviewadams

He should be deported tbh.15 years isn't enough for a crime as heinous as rape,should be a mandatory 30 years,without early release for 'good behaviour' and the like.

Judgement Day

starviewadams wrote: »

He should be deported tbh.15 years isn't enough for a crime as heinous as rape,should be a mandatory 30 years,without early release for 'good behaviour' and the like.

He shouldn't have been allowed to enter Ireland - period! The victim should sue the State for failing to safeguard its citizens but she has probably had more than enough of our justice system.

michael999999

realies wrote: »

He said were it not for the fact that Jakubowski was a foreign national, he would have imposed a sentence of between 17 and 20 years.
But he had to take into account the fact that a prison sentence could be more isolating for someone who did not have roots in this country.

IMO He should have been given the 20 years does not matter where your from, end of.

Not half as f***ing isolated as that poor woman must have felt in the cubicle.

Bastards like these should not have there feelings considered one bit!

I hope the other prisoners s**t in hes meals everyday and he dies a long slow death in jail.

He should never have been left in the country if he had previous convictions for sex crimes!

Micky Dolenz

I've moved around main land Europe and have never been asked/checked if I have a criminal record.

Free movement is exactly that.

Sanjuro

In terms of criminal justice in this country, it's a step in the right direction. Considering that whenever an article like this is posted in AH, it's met with outrage at the leniency, 15 years is a lot better. It's not ideal, but it's better.

jap gt

used to see this lad around the town, when he was arrested he was wearing a girls blue thong and had been caught stealing womens thights from a shop the same day as the attack, he attacked the woman the same time a primary school was finishing up, what would have happend if a young girl went in after school.

He got boiling water thrown in his face in jail during the trial hopefully he gets the same threatment everyday of the 15 years

Judgement Day

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

I've moved around main land Europe and have never been asked/checked if I have a criminal record.

Free movement is exactly that.

And who exactly wanted Free movement? I never minded having my passport checked and in fact liked collecting stamps in it. I don't remember a groundswell of public opinion demanding Free movement.

Sunnyisland

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

I've moved around main land Europe and have never been asked/checked if I have a criminal record.

Free movement is exactly that.

That's ok but if you were ever convicted of serious crimes surely some sort of watch can be put on you ,especially if are a risk of reoffending, even your passport being tagged would help imo.

Judgement Day

realies wrote: »

That's ok but if you were ever convicted of serious crimes surely some sort of watch can be put on you ,especially if are a risk of reoffending, even your passport being tagged would help imo.

But it's not much use having anything added to your passport if it isn't checked at all borders as a matter of routine.

Micky Dolenz

Judgement Day wrote: »

And who exactly wanted Free movement? I never minded having my passport checked and in fact liked collecting stamps in it. I don't remember a groundswell of public opinion demanding Free movement.

I travelled around when you did get stamped and there was no checks then either.

If a workable system could be introduced, I'd be all for it.

Judgement Day

It seems simple enough to me - you get a serious criminal conviction and you lose your right to travel outside your own State. If everybody has to show their passport when entering another country this should stop people wandering across Europe literally raping and pillaging where they like. Our border controls are a joke - people coming and going and nobody knows who or what they are - and if that isn't bad enough the country is awash with drugs and guns because the customs people don't even attempt to check most of the trucks and containers entering the country. I know that's way off topic but to use that awful phrase 'we are where we are!'

Zebra3

Judgement Day wrote: »

It seems simple enough to me - you get a serious criminal conviction and you lose your right to travel outside your own State. If everybody has to show their passport when entering another country this should stop people wandering across Europe literally raping and pillaging where they like. Our border controls are a joke - people coming and going and nobody knows who or what they are - and if that isn't bad enough the country is awash with drugs and guns because the customs people don't even attempt to check most of the trucks and containers entering the country. I know that's way off topic but to use that awful phrase 'we are where we are!'

So how much of an increase in tax are you prepared to pay to have our border with NI secured?

Will we build a wall like the Americans are doing with Mexico? Get vigilantes to patrol it?

maglite

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

I sincerely hope that's to be taken sarcastically.

15 years is not a serious sentence for cases such as that.

Username Win

jajjay

15 Years? The Fec-kn C-nt should be lined up outside the Court of Criminal Justice.....

Tied to the railing....

Temp release every depraved sexual deviant that was ever put away....

Give them a map to the location, and a jar or vasoline.....

And give this b*asta%rd some proper punishment!

That c!unt is probably relaxing in his cell tonight, watching tv, belly full and having a gud laugh at us all. Whos paying for this? We bloody are!

I have to say my sincere sympathies to the poor victim in all this, YOU were so brave and an example for all crime victims!!!! WELL DONE!!!! And I hope you do suceed in geting on with your life as you outlined in your statement to the court! Best Wishes JJ