Benching for reps

jugger0

What would be the best way of achieving 100kgx20? Would using 100kg and just going for failure everytime be effective or using a higher weight be better? both? im not a fan of bench but i need to accomplish this...

Mellor

jugger0 wrote: »

What would be the best way of achieving 100kgx20? Would using 100kg and just going for failure everytime be effective or using a higher weight be better? both? im not a fan of bench but i need to accomplish this...

Why do you need to accomplish this?

What's your current 1RM out of interest

Satanta

How many can you do at the minute?

Da Za

Have a plan.

A tonne of benching, tricep, delt and lat work!!

Just get stronger!

xgtdec

i love these threads :rolleyes:, theres me this morning legs flailing trying to do 1 x 100....and somebody goin for 100 x 20...god i feel ill

Hanley

Get stronger... looks how easy Ryan Kennelly busts out 100 x20, 140 x20 and 180 x20 cos he puts up like 300+ raw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGIPKxYIFJU

COH

Accomplish it for what? Are you doing the NFL combine?

Gandalph

100 x 20 phwoah...do reps of 85% of your max

daveyc21

Without the obvious of getting stronger etc. a good tip is to try and complete max reps as fast of possible. Seems to be the main idea at the combine. Less time supporting the weight means less time to fatigue seems to be the idea

colman1212

Brian Cushing of the houston texans benching 100kg for 34 reps. Whats your current bench?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcxMsC3ny8g

jugger0

Mellor wrote: »

Why do you need to accomplish this?

What's your current 1RM out of interest

Its just something i said id do... a goal, i injured my lower body so i may aswell get it out of the way.

Current 1rm was 150 but that was a while ago, i dont really bench that much so it could be a tiny bit lower now.

As for how many reps, i cant get past 17... so you guys are saying increase strength, so 120 to failure?

jugger0

Hanley wrote: »

Get stronger... looks how easy Ryan Kennelly busts out 100 x20, 140 x20 and 180 x20 cos he puts up like 300+ raw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGIPKxYIFJU

Fack i feel inadequate.. what a beast! mirin

COH

colman1212 wrote: »

Brian Cushing of the houston texans benching 100kg for 34 reps. Whats your current bench?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcxMsC3ny8g

I'll have a crack at that soon :cool:

colman1212

If you can bench 100kg for 17reps you are obviously on the right track with whatever you're doing. I would have thought you should get stronger so treat it like any strength training program.

Heavy weight + low reps + calories surplus = stronger.

Plenty of tricep & upper back work too I would think. Weighted dips, weighted pull ups etc..

What weight are you?

jugger0

colman1212 wrote: »

If you can bench 100kg for 17reps you are obviously on the right track with whatever you're doing. I would have thought you should get stronger so treat it like any strength training program.

Heavy weight + low reps + calories surplus = stronger.

Plenty of tricep & upper back work too I would think. Weighted dips, weighted pull ups etc..

What weight are you?

Yeah the thing is i dont count my calories atall, im at 95kg but i would like to be a bit heavier, i have a pretty good diet i just dont really track anything... i dont know how many calories im getting, the thought of counting every cal i eat makes my head sore... but i suppose its the only way.

Hmmmm ive never done tricep work, what do you suggest? im not doing tricep kickbacks tho! ghey

TimeToShine

do you know if its your triceps, delts or chest that are giving out first?

jugger0

TimeToShine wrote: »

do you know if its your triceps, delts or chest that are giving out first?

Oh god i dont have a clue, i use a very close grip ive been told, id say my chest only because ive never felt doms in my triceps.

TimeToShine

DOMS are irrelevant here, if your grip is close it means your triceps are probably giving out before your chest. You should try and widen your grip a bit and see if that helps.

Brian?

jugger0 wrote: »

TimeToShine wrote: »

do you know if its your triceps, delts or chest that are giving out first?

Oh god i dont have a clue, i use a very close grip ive been told, id say my chest only because ive never felt doms in my triceps.

If your grip is too narrow you're definatly handicapping yourself.

An adjustment in technique could actually give you those 3 more reps. Although why you want them confuses me. Why not just train for strength and let the reps come.

Hanley

briankeating wrote: »

If your grip is too narrow you're definatly handicapping yourself.

An adjustment in technique could actually give you those 3 more reps. Although why you want them confuses me. Why not just train for strength and let the reps come.

he just has a goal he wants? what's wrong with that?! 100x20 is a savage achievement and most people who f*ck about in the gym won't even pull off 1/4 of that!

TimeToShine

Hanley wrote: »

he just has a goal he wants? what's wrong with that?! 100x20 is a savage achievement and most people who f*ck about in the gym won't even pull off 1/4 of that!

working towards that would hinder progress in the long run IMO

jugger0

briankeating wrote: »

If your grip is too narrow you're definatly handicapping yourself.

An adjustment in technique could actually give you those 3 more reps. Although why you want them confuses me. Why not just train for strength and let the reps come.

It does sound stupid i suppose but its just something i said id do so theres no going back on it now. I will try changing my grip, just that narrow feels "right" for some reason.

Also i usually hate going the gym with other people, so i tend to go light on the bench, hence the whole 20 reps.. i guess ill start going with my mate and he can spot me on the heavier weights, i have nightmares about dropping it on my teeth ya see!

Hanley

TimeToShine wrote: »

working towards that would hinder progress in the long run IMO

Dude.... really?!

It's pretty much impossible to get stronger year around. Especially the longer you're training. It got to the point where I was happy to take 3 or 4 bit PRs a year and 6-8 months of training focused solely on getting stronger.

The rest of the time was spent bringing up work capacity and general conditioning. Not suggesting that's what Jugger is at, but if he's arrived there inadvertently, he could certainly be doing much worse

dave80

TimeToShine wrote: »

working towards that would hinder progress in the long run IMO

he aint far off the 20 mark at the mo, he could achieve his goal in a few weeks i reckon, how will tat hinder progress in the long run

Brian?

Hanley wrote: »

briankeating wrote: »

If your grip is too narrow you're definatly handicapping yourself.

An adjustment in technique could actually give you those 3 more reps. Although why you want them confuses me. Why not just train for strength and let the reps come.

he just has a goal he wants? what's wrong with that?! 100x20 is a savage achievement and most people who f*ck about in the gym won't even pull off 1/4 of that!

I don't think there's anything wrong with it at all. I didn't mean to sound like I thought there was. I just meant it's a funny goal to have, not one I'd ever train specifically myself.

If he does it, I'll take my hat off to him.

Brian?

jugger0 wrote: »

briankeating wrote: »

If your grip is too narrow you're definatly handicapping yourself.

An adjustment in technique could actually give you those 3 more reps. Although why you want them confuses me. Why not just train for strength and let the reps come.

It does sound stupid i suppose but its just something i said id do so theres no going back on it now. I will try changing my grip, just that narrow feels "right" for some reason.

Also i usually hate going the gym with other people, so i tend to go light on the bench, hence the whole 20 reps.. i guess ill start going with my mate and he can spot me on the heavier weights, i have nightmares about dropping it on my teeth ya see!

See my above reply to Hanley, I don't think it's a stupid goal at all. Just an unusual one.

Fair play to you if you get it, not a hope I could do the 17 reps you're getting now myself.

I'd have a look at your overall technique as well, not just the grip. There's a good series by Dave Tate on benching. Have a look on T-nation.

Bottle_of_Smoke

Go higher (eg 140) for like 4 or 5. Makes 100 seem much lighter

Hanley

Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »

Go higher (eg 140) for like 4 or 5. Makes 100 seem much lighter

I think this is a good idea.. get a few singles or doubles in with near max weight, then drop back. It'll make it seem easier.

itsallaboutheL

Hanley wrote: »

I think this is a good idea..

I don't.

Hanley

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

I don't.

There's the proof so. It is a good idea.

Michael 09

Hanley wrote: »

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

I don't.

There's the proof so. It is a good idea.

I just lol'd. Classic

john t

100kg x 20reps is`nt hard too do, but you would have too bench at least 170kg/ 180kg for 2reps too achieve this.Its not a big weight or high rep and most people who regularly use resistance trainning can achieve this..

Hanley

john t wrote: »

100kg x 20reps is`nt hard too do, but you would have too bench at least 170kg/ 180kg for 2reps too achieve this.Its not a big weight or high rep and most people who regularly use resistance trainning can achieve this..

Most people who train could do 170 or 180 x2? Go away.

john t

Do you dissagre with me sying most adult males who use resistance trainning cant bench 170/180 kg???

Michael 09

john t wrote: »

Do you dissagre with me sying most adult males who use resistance trainning cant bench 170/180 kg???

Are you high?

squod

john t wrote: »

Do you dissagre with me sying most adult males who use resistance trainning cant bench 170/180 kg???

Vids or GTFO. There's four adult males I know of that have trained in my gym at my aprox bodyweight (100kg) who have done this.

Hanley

john t wrote: »

Do you dissagre with me sying most adult males who use resistance trainning cant bench 170/180 kg???

Of "average" weight (80-100kg - even at that it's greater than "average"), and drug free, yes, certainly. And I'm one of the few people here who can legitimately say you're talking crap based off empirical evidence.

the drifter

squod wrote: »

Vids or GTFO. There's four adult males I know of that have trained in my gym at my aprox bodyweight (100kg) who have done this.

Thats an impressive gym so...

I know of 3 in UL who have gone over 180 raw and there all well over 100kg

and one who was 90kg but he isnt allowed be counted as an average male..:cool:

john t

so you know 4 people who achieved thiswhats too say other people have not achieved it.. its like 400lb bench its a lot of peoples goal and very achievable..no vids no pix if you dont believe it possible you living in dream world.. oh im not strong person i know people who lift more....

Michael 09

john t wrote: »

Do you dissagre with me sying most adult males who use resistance trainning cant bench 170/180 kg???[/]

Troll. Move along

squod

the drifter wrote: »

Thats an impressive gym so...

I know of 3 in UL who have gone over 180 raw and there all well over 100kg

and one who was 90kg but he isnt allowed be counted as an average male..:cool:

We had some great coaching at one stage, many moons ago!

Hanley

the drifter wrote: »

Thats an impressive gym so...

I know of 3 in UL who have gone over 180 raw and there all well over 100kg

and one who was 90kg but he isnt allowed be counted as an average male..:cool:

Drug free, in Ireland, at less than 100kg, doing a 'legit' 180 bench, i'd say you could count them one two hands.

squod

john t wrote: »

so you know 4 people who achieved thiswhats too say other people have not achieved it.. its like 400lb bench its a lot of peoples goal and very achievable..no vids no pix if you dont believe it possible you living in dream world.. oh im not strong person i know people who lift more....

Not saying it's not possible. The way you put it was...........

john t wrote: »

Do you dissagre with me sying most adult males who use resistance trainning cant bench 170/180 kg???

Which I feel just isn't accurate. BTW I'm not strong either. Nowadays I'm mostly old and fat.

Hanley

squod wrote: »

Which I feel just isn't accurate. BTW I'm not strong either. Nowadays I'm mostly old and fat.

THat is to say you have young and skinny days too?

squod

Hanley wrote: »

THat is to say you have young and skinny days too?

Oh God yeah. 39 this year Hanley. 2 kids and 14 years since I quit smoking and started gyming. Really miss those smokes!

Hanley

squod wrote: »

Oh God yeah. 39 this year Hanley. 2 kids and 14 years since I quit smoking and started gyming. Really miss those smokes!

That's savage. Lets talk about you - at least make this thread worthwhile.

squod

Hanley wrote: »

That's savage. Lets talk about you - at least make this thread worthwhile.

Not a chance!

john t

so u guys cant accept a person achieving a goal?? ok at 89kg i bench`d 170kg... in t-shirt, trainers wit laces open, football type shorts...no wraps or aids, natural...

Hanley

john t wrote: »

so u guys cant accept a person achieving a goal?? ok at 89kg i bench`d 170kg... in t-shirt, trainers wit laces open, football type shorts...no wraps or aids, natural...

I know a 75kg dude who did the same.

n=500,000 (assuming 25% of the male population of ireland will train with weights at some point)

Of the sample, around 10-20 might achieve it.

Please tell me how that is "most". Nobody said it was unachievable. Stop talking about the straw man, and start talking about squod.

squod

Hanley wrote: »

I know a 75kg dude who did the same.

n=500,000 (assuming 25% of the male population of ireland will train with weights at some point)

Of the sample, around 10-20 might achieve it.

Please tell me how that is "most". Nobody said it was unachievable. Stop talking about the straw man, and start talking about squod.

You can have my premium rate phone number Hanley.

john t

If you want you can avchieve..most guys who work out want big bench but it takes time and effort too acchieve it..also time and patience..