Tyrrelstown info

Fresh2000

Hello boards.ie,

I am thinking about buying house in tyrrelstown. I was searching forums and there are mix reviews about the area but they are all from 2005 - 2009 so I wonder if I can get updated info.

Some colleagues have only bad things to say about it but they just heard it, only reliable source is my whifes colleague that bought house there. She lives there with husband and child and she is pregnant with another one and she says it is great area, she has long walks at evening and it is safe area. And she told me there is a new schoole being open soon. So how is it? Please help me decide.

Thanks

January

It's quiet, mixed cultures, mostly rental properties, right on the door step of a Lidl, not far from the Blanchardstown Centre. Parking is allocated. Try stick to Belgree, Mount Eustace or the newer built houses, have heard bad things about the older houses (off the first roundabout).

Fresh2000

hmmm we are looking at Bishops Orchard <-> Hollywood Road area

January

That's the newer part, right near the main street so shops are just a stone's throw away.

richardjjd

[declaration of interest: I live in Tyrrelstown]

Its well served by public transport - with a regular service to city centre and to the Blanchardstown centre. There are a number of shops (Superquinn, Lidl, pharmacy, two restaurants, three takeaways, pub, hairdressers, medical centre, plus a 4 star hotel across the road).

There are two primary schools (plus a community centre and secondary school being built). There are also soccer and GAA clubs.

It's very quiet with a low crime rate (in my experience). Its quite a young area (oldest houses were built ten years ago or so.

Interesting comments in January's post. I disagree that the majority of houses are rented : I'm not sure how you'd come up with such a statistic, but (at least in my little corner of the estate) most of the houses are owner occupied. I'm not sure what January meant by "bad things about the houses off the first roundabout" so can't comment on that.

As with new estates, there is a management company structure in place.

amdublin

I prefer it to other new estates like Ongsr.

I think it is really growing into itself well - think the builder spent some money on the planting - some really nice mature shrubbery around.

Also, a lot of the houses are brick which deters grafitti etc.

Nice little towncentre - superquinn is perfect for sausages and nice bread on a Saturday and sunday morning!!
Lidl is handy for the rest of the week

Fresh2000

Thanks guys for comments, like I said we only know one person that actually lives there and she said all good things, as well as evening walks are possible, she did not hear anyones house/walls/car was damaged, no knackers there.

is there night link comming there? is there anything for kids there? like a playgrounds?

amdublin

Fresh2000 wrote: »

is there night link comming there? is there anything for kids there? like a playgrounds?

There used to be a Nightlink to there. Is there not anymore??

Loads of playgrounds.

Drive out this weekend and get a feel for the area.

richardjjd

The 39N nightlink terminates there, which is handy. There are two playgrounds, one in Curragh Hall and one in Mount Eustace (here and here).

Fresh2000

amdublin wrote: »

Drive out this weekend and get a feel for the area.

haha I was just talking with my wife about it, to go there at one of the evenings and than during a weekend at different hours to see what's up...

richardjjd

richardjjd wrote: »

There are a number of shops (Superquinn, Lidl, pharmacy, two restaurants, three takeaways, pub, hairdressers, medical centre, plus a 4 star hotel across the road).

Forgot the bank, estate agent, off license and bookies.

amdublin

Fresh2000 wrote: »

haha I was just talking with my wife about it, to go there at one of the evenings and than during a weekend at different hours to see what's up...

Yes that is the best idea - see it at different times.

Good luck!

Fresh2000

richardjjd wrote: »

Forgot the bank, estate agent, off license and bookies.

where exactly is this center with all those shops, banks, pubs, etc. Could you point it on google map like with playgrounds?

Thanks

richardjjd

This is the town centre. And across the road, this is the hotel (spin around from the hotel to see the town centre!)

Diddler1977

Is the kids shoe shop still open in Tyrrelstown?

I think the household store (Blue something or other) closed down.

richardjjd

Diddler1977 wrote: »

Is the kids shoe shop still open in Tyrrelstown?

I think the household store (Blue something or other) closed down.

Not sure about the shoe shop. Blue Jays (plus the newsagents) shut a few months ago. A lighting store and a Polish shop have both opened since. There was a lot of comment about the rent being too high. Not sure if that's changed.

January

Little Piggies (shoe store) and Blue Jas have closed, along with the newsagents and the coffee shop (now an Indian restaurant). There's a new pet store opened up there now.

chucknorris

I'm also in the process of viewing houses and to be fair it's been give or take, looking between TT and Ongar.

I want a modern house with multiple bathrooms and also to live in a settled decent area.

Both of these area's can provide that. There is a consensus generally and some people will not like it. The consensus I am getting from quite allot of people I know is that TT could be a smashing (great) area in ten years time or it could be an area that could suffer more than most from the current economic climate. Be it large scale rental, integration issues and/or lack of community.

It is not a case that any of the above will be an issue but more a case that people say to me that at some stage it maybe an issue. It is the unknown and unforeseeable development of area's like TT and similar.

As it currently stands, I tihnk the area has potential in the same way Blanchardstown must have had potential between 1975 and 1985 when you had one side of the town that was largely private and you had the council housing side that sprang up across the west and northern parts of the town. I'm sure at the time there was a prediction of possible issue and allot of them well founded. However; great communities also formed and TT has that potential.

TT is unusual in that it is completely mixed with rental, owner occupiers and a complete mix of nationalities.

As it stands I reckon it's fine, no different than anywhere else.

Perhaps allot of this is unfounded but as someone who is also looking for a house I thought a bit of balance is warranted.

I believe when you talk about TT you really should divide it up in to its individual estates. ie; Belgree, Beeling, Cruise park etc etc.

Polar101

richardjjd wrote: »

Its well served by public transport - with a regular service to city centre and to the Blanchardstown centre.

It is? I guess the 40d is a pretty decent service, but I'd hate to go anywhere else from Tyrrellstown using public transport. I'd say you'd need a car in Tyrrellstown, as there's nothing near the area.

No1J

January wrote: »

It's quiet, mixed cultures, mostly rental properties, right on the door step of a Lidl, not far from the Blanchardstown Centre. Parking is allocated. Try stick to Belgree, Mount Eustace or the newer built houses, have heard bad things about the older houses (off the first roundabout).

Bad things about the Houses or the people? I always thought that the area looked well kept and although I wouldn't be out there at night time I never spotted anything that looked dodgy, a little isolated maybe.

No1J

No1J wrote: »

Bad things about the Houses or the people? I always thought that the area looked well kept and although I wouldn't be out there at night time I never spotted anything that looked dodgy, a little isolated maybe.

TT is a nice area. That small forrested area would be nice if that horrible noise wasn't there all the time. I think it's a teenager dispersal noise but even walking through wrecks your head. The rest is nice and quiet usually though

January

Deleted User wrote: »

TT is a nice area. That small forrested area would be nice if that horrible noise wasn't there all the time. I think it's a teenager dispersal noise but even walking through wrecks your head. The rest is nice and quiet usually though

Funny you mention that dojojoe, ask your sister about it, she was complaining about it the other day and I said the same thing but she said she was the only one who could hear it of all the people she asked...

amdublin

Polar101 wrote: »

It is? I guess the 40d is a pretty decent service, but I'd hate to go anywhere else from Tyrrellstown using public transport. I'd say you'd need a car in Tyrrellstown, as there's nothing near the area.

Most areas are generally served by a bus from the area into town.

It is the design of Dublin Bus. The city centre is the hub and then there are spider legs out of it for all the routes.

So Tyrellstown is no different from the likes of Blanchardstown, Lucan, Finglas, Ballsbridge etc ie. To get to a different area you need to go into the city and change on to the other areas (spider) leg.

ThisRegard

January wrote: »

Funny you mention that dojojoe, ask your sister about it, she was complaining about it the other day and I said the same thing but she said she was the only one who could hear it of all the people she asked...

I run through there occasionally and never even knew it existed. God, I really do feel old now

January

ThisRegard wrote: »

I run through there occasionally and never even knew it existed. God, I really do feel old now

Haha I can't hear it either! My 22 year old sister can hear it though, and so it seems can my brother :eek:

richardjjd

Deleted User wrote: »

That small forrested area would be nice if that horrible noise wasn't there all the time. I think it's a teenager dispersal noise but even walking through wrecks your head.

You've got me there! I've never heard this sound (though some say I enjoy selective hearing...). Is that in the small forested area beside Bealing?

No1J

Deleted User wrote: »

TT is a nice area. That small forrested area would be nice if that horrible noise wasn't there all the time. I think it's a teenager dispersal noise but even walking through wrecks your head. The rest is nice and quiet usually though

One of those mosquito things, that's mad, never heard of them being put in fields or open areas, must have been Fingal C,C.
But what is the story with the bad things in the older house area?

chucknorris

No1J wrote: »

One of those mosquito things, that's mad, never heard of them being put in fields or open areas, must have been Fingal C,C.
But what is the story with the bad things in the older house area?

Perhaps no one is admitting it but allot of people regard certain sections of TT as a ghetto or soon to be ghettoised area. If that's true or not is not important but the preception.

January

chucknorris wrote: »

Perhaps no one is admitting it but allot of people regard certain sections of TT as a ghetto or soon to be ghettoised area. If that's true or not is not important but the preception.

Not that... just apparently a lot of anti social behaviour...

chucknorris

January wrote: »

Not that... just apparently a lot of anti social behaviour...

Both are true but not specific to TT in fairness.

If my offer for the house in number 1 belgree **** was accepted, i'd buy it immediatly. FACT

Fresh2000

you guys made us think about it very hard, we''ll know more after our visits there and than I have to follow my gut I guess and decide if to buy or not.

No1J

chucknorris wrote: »

Perhaps no one is admitting it but allot of people regard certain sections of TT as a ghetto or soon to be ghettoised area. If that's true or not is not important but the preception.

Sorry to hear about that and I hope that it doesn't as it looks a nice spot. I was thinking of buying in the old area off the plans around 2000 but was afraid that amenities would not follow quickly enough, what has it got for the teens, GAA etc.

richardjjd

Apart from the sports clubs, Foroige have a full time office in Tyrrelstown. The new community centre and school (due to be completed in August) will also offer good facilities - to date, community events had to take place in the primary schools, hotel or pub, depending on the function. Funding has just been released (from the original developer levy apparently) to open soccer and basketball pitches (on the north side of the estate) - tenders have just been published for that, so I imagine it'll be a few months before those are ready.

Fresh2000

quick question is there gym or a leasure club available somwhere near?

amdublin

Fresh2000 wrote: »

you guys made us think about it very hard, we''ll know more after our visits there and than I have to follow my gut I guess and decide if to buy or not.

Go with your gut Fresh!

Plenty of Leisure centres/gyms within driving or cycling distance - not walking:
The national aquatic centre (the nack )
Westmanstown
Westwood?? I think - one beside the blanch towncentre

Fresh2000

I just have visited the place in tyrrelstown we think to buy today with wife, been there around 9:30 and we went for a walk. It was really nice, the guys in a pub were bit loud as they have smoking area on balcony, but would not affect us much, I likked big green for kids to play football and the playground there. Nice place to play with your dog as well.

Plains fly pretty often but the noice was not to big.

Overall we liked it, will visit during weekend as well.

ronan45

Anytime im in TT it seems a decent enough place. Never saw any vandalism or hooded gangs hanging about. Usually just kids larking about. Seems a peaceful area, self contained. The Trees are really starting to mature looks well. The local bar the thirsty bull has GREAT decor. Crowd can be a bit hit and miss though imo

Diddler1977

Fresh2000 wrote: »

I just have visited the place in tyrrelstown we think to buy today with wife, been there around 9:30 and we went for a walk. It was really nice, the guys in a pub were bit loud as they have smoking area on balcony, but would not affect us much, I likked big green for kids to play football and the playground there. Nice place to play with your dog as well.

Plains fly pretty often but the noice was not to big.

Overall we liked it, will visit during weekend as well.

Yes I like the big green area too. And the playground is great.

Parking in the shops area is not as mad as in Ongar, I think.

Fresh2000

been there few more times, we really like it, the onnly thing is we are not sure how we will handle those plains flying there every 5 minutes. We have tough decision to make.

Morag

You get used to the planes the same way people who live by a train line get used to the trains, they become background noise.

Sharrow

Sharrow wrote: »

You get used to the planes the same way people who live by a train line get used to the trains, they become background noise.

Yeah they never bother me. Suppose I was born here so it was always there really.

amdublin

Fresh2000 wrote: »

been there few more times, we really like it, the onnly thing is we are not sure how we will handle those plains flying there every 5 minutes. We have tough decision to make.

Oh cmon it's Dublin Airport! I think every 5 mins is an exaggeration!

Plus it is not beside Dub airport ie. They are high in the sky - it's not St Margarets with your windows shaking or anything!

spooky donkey

well if you had asked me this time yesterday I would have to say TT is a nice area. But after visiting last night im a bit put off. We shop there regularally and last night I saw an excess of teenage activity that had me concerned. It may just be as a result of the summer holidays or what ever but it still put me off.

First off I see a bus stoped and about 30+ youths getting kicked off by an Dub bus inspector before the bus even got to the 2nd round about. Im not sure what was happening but there seemed to be a bit of a row going on.

Then I go into the main square and there are more gangs of teen agers about 20 or so going around shouting a lot. I noticed some of the shop owners standing about watching them with concerned looks on their faces.

Perhaps it was all nothing.... but then perceptions are every thing.
Ive been through TT dozzens of times and never say any negitive till yesterday.

ThisRegard

I think that was football related, most had soccer gear with them, and from what I could see most of them weren't from the area, hence them all disappearing in a bus at some stage.

tyview

Yesterday was very unusual. There must have been a soccer match. I've lived here 7 years and there have never been that many teenagers around here. There were also alot of parents collecting them from the shops

spooky donkey

yes it may have been a one off. Never seen it happen before.

chucknorris

spooky donkey wrote: »

yes it may have been a one off. Never seen it happen before.

What origin were they lads???? Were they largely African?
I might be able to shed light on it.

tyview

chucknorris wrote: »

What origin were they lads???? Were they largely African?
I might be able to shed light on it.

In fairness I saw a lot of girls there too not just lads. Would it have been something to do with school or something?

chucknorris

tyview wrote: »

In fairness I saw a lot of girls there too not just lads. Would it have been something to do with school or something?

The question I asked was whether the lads were largely African??? It's odd how I ask the question and the people moaning and giving out keep stum.

I'm sure they were, if someone had of confirmed I could have told you these lads play other lads, from other areas around d15 regularly. Almost like street leagues.

Nothing unusual in that and I loved playing them leagues myself.

amdublin

chucknorris wrote: »

The question I asked was whether the lads were largely African??? It's odd how I ask the question and the people moaning and giving out keep stum.

I'm sure they were, if someone had of confirmed I could have told you these lads play other lads, from other areas around d15 regularly. Almost like street leagues.

Nothing unusual in that and I loved playing them leagues myself.

Eh maybe they didn't know the answer to your question. How would you know someones nationality without asking them?

And then someone just mentioned there were girls also.
Is it a mixed league or is there a girls league as well?

chucknorris

amdublin wrote: »

Eh maybe they didn't know the answer to your question. How would you know someones nationality without asking them?

And then someone just mentioned there were girls also.
Is it a mixed league or is there a girls league as well?

How did they not know the answer to the question? At least three posters seen the large crowd of teenagers. They seen enough to see they had football gear, that shop keepers were watching etc but they didn't know if they were African OR NOT.

Were the teenagers wearing balaclavas or something?

I never asked what nationality they were, I asked were they African.

The large, large majority of Afro TEENAGERS in this country were not born in Ireland. Kids around 10 or below were born in Ireland.

so......the last few posters who seen the crowd, was it a mixed bunch or not?