Fetac/CAO offers

GALWAYINDOOR

Hi all
I have completed a fetac course and have applied to the CAO for a number of different courses. my question is will the fetac place be offered on the 6th July or is there a different date for the fetac offers ? how are fetac places chosen ?
thanks

WoollyRedHat

I think you get an offer in round zero, dunno where you're getting July 7th from though?

Got all required distinctions for an arts course but got merit in Communications, is this enough for the course?

Further Ed.

Galway Indoors - it depends on which system your application is assessed under - whether you are applying via the Higher Education Links Scheme (HELS) or the Pilot scheme.

You can not choose which one - it depends on the course you have applied for.

If it is a Level 8 course with the universities then it is probably via the HELS and your offer is generally in Round Zero. This is what the CAO states re Round Zero

Round Zero
In early August there may be an issue of offers of places which go to certain categories of applicant who are not competing with those awaiting 2011 examination results or who are assessed on other criteria, i.e. graduate entry medicine applicants, additional mature applicants and
applicants presenting FETAC (2002-2011) for consideration for entry to courses with a quota for FETAC applicants may also be included at this stage

If you are applying for place in the IoTs then your offer will probably come with Round 1 as you are competing with Leaving Cert students for a place but your points are based on your FETAC applicants.

Woolly Red Hat - check the entry requirements with the HEI and also consider appealing.

WoollyRedHat

Yeah, had to get distinction in Communications, got merit... considering appealing, really annoyed, especially when I got everything else....

liamo22

so am i right in saying that i will know if i have my place in a Level 8 course in a uni, before all the leaving certificate students know where they got accepted into?

implausible

liamo22 wrote: »

so am i right in saying that i will know if i have my place in a Level 8 course in a uni, before all the leaving certificate students know where they got accepted into?

If you applied under the HELS, yes.

liamo22

I applied with the CAO im going from a Level 5 Journalism into a Level 8 MEdia course is NUI Maynooth, and thanks for your help

adam500

Yes, round zero CAO offers will be made on the 4th august, this includes FETAC applicants.
Hope you get what you want.

liamo22

adam500 wrote: »

Yes, round zero CAO offers will be made on the 4th august, this includes FETAC applicants.
Hope you get what you want.

Thanks Adam500 for the information and the best wishes

AislingB

Iv applied for Forensic Analysis (level 7) with 6 Distinctions, a merit and a pass.

What are my chances?

Do I have to forward on my results to the CAO, Heard somewhere you have to. I may be compllllllletley wrong though!

GALWAYINDOOR

hi all
in applying you apply as a mature then you also have to apply for results of plc fetac course seperate ? applying just as a mature you will not be considered under fetac

TheReverend

Mature Students are round 0

FETAC Students are round 1

Well it was this way last year when I got in.

hope this helps

Further Ed.

FETAC Applicants may receive an offer in Round Zero or Round 1 - it depends on which scheme their FETAC applicantion is considered under. Those applying for reserved places via the HELS scheme (generally in the Universities) will be dealt with in Round Zero while those applying via the Pilot Scheme (applicantions to the IoTs) where FETAC applicants compete with Leaving Cert students for places areceive their offer in Round 1.


Round Zero
In early August there may be an issue of offers of places
which go to certain categories of applicant who are not
competing with those awaiting 2011 examination
results
or who are assessed on other criteria, i.e. graduate entry
medicine applicants, additional mature applicants and
applicants presenting FETAC (2002-2011) for
consideration for entry to courses with a quota for FETAC
applicants may also be included at this stage. http://www2.cao.ie/handbook/handbook/index.php

MissNaiia

Hey guys,

I've applied through the CAO with my FETAC results and I didn't get offered anything. But since my number 1 choice is W.I.T does that mean i may get offered something in the next round of offers?

Thanks!

Further Ed.

See my previous post - your application is probably considered under the Pilot Scheme and hence you will be dealt with under Round 1

NYnative

Hi, im still a little confused.. I have applied through the CAO w/ my FETAC results, i got an offer today but i do not want to take it.. my first choice is LIT which i am confidant with my overall points. I was told they don't send out their offers until aug 22, same time as the LC offers.. so does this mean i am still eligible for a place in LIT when the round 1 offers come out?

Further Ed.

As long as the LIT course is higher up on your list of courses than the course you have got an offer for you should be ok. See the post CAO offers for FETAC applicants for a full explanation of how the system works.

adam500

The Further Ed system is total BS, I worked my ass of for the whole year to get my seven distinctions. I had a 95% attendance for the year, bar two day's off for a funeral.

I put every thing into to try get a place on a degree course, long nights doing projects, study ect. I didn't get offered one place on my CAO, yet others in my college who were in different courses got offered places in a variety of colleges and UNI's around Ireland and the majority of those guys were out more than they came in, had no care for there course work and regularly submitted assignments late.

I feel like I have had the p**s taken out of me, it's just not right. The system is a joke, there is no real opportunity at the end of it. There's noting in this nation for the young anymore, the only real chance for a future was taken away by all those over paid pr**ks in the banks and government.

Don't even bother mentioning there's still other CAO rounds to go, after round zero there's no hope for FETAC student's.

Thanks for noting.

TheReverend

adam500 wrote: »

The Further Ed system is total BS, I worked my ass of for the whole year to get my seven distinctions. I had a 95% attendance for the year, bar two day's off for a funeral.

I put every thing into to try get a place on a degree course, long nights doing projects, study ect. I didn't get offered one place on my CAO, yet others in my college who were in different courses got offered places in a variety of colleges and UNI's around Ireland and the majority of those guys were out more than they came in, had no care for there course work and regularly submitted assignments late.

I feel like I have had the p**s taken out of me, it's just not right. The system is a joke, there is no real opportunity at the end of it. There's noting in this nation for the young anymore, the only real chance for a future was taken away by all those over paid pr**ks in the banks and government.

Don't even bother mentioning there's still other CAO rounds to go, after round zero there's no hope for FETAC student's.

Thanks for noting.

Calm down,
You will probably get an offer in round 1 like myself and most others I knew did when we did our FETAC courses.

carinabean

HEY!
I applied for a level 6 course in CIT
According to the HELS and the Pilot scheme iv scored higher points than i needed to get to get onto the course. According to the Pilot scoring scheme maximum points achievable/needed are 400, i got 520! (I got 9 distinctions and two merits)
Im freaking out right now as i just noticed tonight the round zero offers were given out yesterday but i havnt received an offer, last year i applied for the same course but in DIT (which have higher requirements than CIT) and I remember receiving an offer in the round zero.... but nothing this year?????
Could any1 please tell me if they know if I am eligable to get an offer on round 1???? and any reason why I may not have been offered one yet even though i have above and beyond requiremnts??????
Thanks so much

carinabean

Also the course i applied for through the cao this year was the only one!!! Theres no other course choices on my application!

Further Ed.

Adam500 - in order to get into Nursing courses you need 8 distinctions and the places for FETAC applicants are very limited. This is constantly made clear on these boards and by the HEI as well.

Human Growth & Development is a mandatory module which means you must get a distinction in it to be in with a chance. The chances of getting in with 8 distinctions is slim enough as it is as there are so few places reserved for FETAC applicants. Have you considered appealing your pass in Growth and Development ?

Most FETAC Nursing students also apply to the UK as a backup to their CAO applicantion and many get accepted with less than 8 distinctions.

Further Ed.

carinabean wrote: »

I applied for a level 6 course in CIT According to the HELS and the Pilot scheme iv scored higher points than i needed to get to get onto the course. According to the Pilot scoring scheme maximum points achievable/needed are 400, i got 520!
Im freaking out right now as i just noticed tonight the round zero offers were given out yesterday but i havnt received an offer, last year i applied for the same course but in DIT (which have higher requirements than CIT) and I remember receiving an offer in the round zero.... but nothing this year?????
Could any1 please tell me if they know if I am eligable to get an offer on round 1???? and any reason why I may not have been offered one yet even though i have above and beyond requiremnts??????
Thanks so much

Under the Higher Education Links Scheme (HELS) there are a set number of places (quota) reserved for FETAC students. This operates in certain Higher Education Institutions (HEIs) – usually the Universities and DIT but also NCAD, and other colleges (see http://www.fetac.ie/fetac/documents/Prog_HEC_2011.pdf). FETAC applicants are assessed separately from ALL other applicants so you are competing against other FETAC applicants only.
Most of the courses in the Institutes of Technologies (IoTs) are in the Pilot scheme - this is where you compete against Leaving Cert students for places.

DIT is under the HELS scheme for the majority of its courses while CIT is under the Pilot Scheme. This is why you received an offer last year under Round Zero and why you will have to wait til Round 1 to see if you get your place in CIT.

There is no way you could score 520 points under the Pilot Scheme - you can only count 8 modules and a distinction is worth 50 points thus the max you could score is 400 points.

The points are calculated differently for both;
Pilot scheme: An overall points score is calculated based on the best 8 modules presented. For FETAC Level 5 modules with a credit value of 1, scores awarded are as follows: Pass: 20 points Merit: 35 points Distinction: 50 points
This means that you are then able to compete against Leaving Cert students for places on courses. Some IoTs will request that you have certain modules in your FETAC award in order to be eligible for entry to the course. Most level 5 modules have a credit value of 1. So re-calculate your points including the mandatory and requested modules up to a total of 8 modules.

Higher Education Links Scheme (HELS) : A module with a credit value of 1. receives 3 points for a Distinction, 2 points for a Merit, and 1 point for a Pass. The majority of modules have a credit value of 1.
The scores for each of the best 8 modules are then added up to give the total best 8 grade points tally. The total best 8 grade points tally is then multiplied by 15 and rounded to the nearest whole number to give a ranking. Places reserved for FETAC applicants are then offered in order of merit based on the ranking.

OFFER DATES
FETAC Applicants may receive an offer in Round Zero or Round 1 - it depends on which scheme their FETAC application is considered under. Those applying for reserved places via the HELS scheme (generally in the Universities, DIT andother colleges) will be dealt with in Round Zero (this week) while those applying via the Pilot Scheme (applications to the IoTs) receive their offer in Round 1 as they are competing with Leaving Cert students for places.
Other students receive offers in Round Zero and Round 1 as well.

carinabean

Thanks so much for the effort you put into replying!
I know 400 points is the max points u can get as u only count the best 8 modules, i counted all of mine which technically would of added up to 520, i know it doesnt matter, i just thought that surely i would be assured a place considering my good results!
Im glad to hear that DIT is one of the colleges offering in round zero, and carlow definately offer in round 1!
I just freaked out when I logged onto the CAO website and on their homepage it states FETAC offers- round zero...they never mentioned that the IT's will also offer places on round 1!
So just to be sure, I definately am waiting for an offer in round two and round zero does not apply to me!?!?!
thanks so much again!!!!

Further Ed.

carinabean wrote: »

Thanks so much for the effort you put into replying!
I know 400 points is the max points u can get as u only count the best 8 modules, i counted all of mine which technically would of added up to 520, i know it doesnt matter, i just thought that surely i would be assured a place considering my good results!
Im glad to hear that DIT is one of the colleges offering in round zero, and carlow definately offer in round 1!
I just freaked out when I logged onto the CAO website and on their homepage it states FETAC offers- round zero...they never mentioned that the IT's will also offer places on round 1!
So just to be sure, I definately am waiting for an offer in round two and round zero does not apply to me!?!?!
thanks so much again!!!!

No problem and best of luck with round 1 offers

lkgirl

Further Ed. wrote: »

No problem and best of luck with round 1 offers

I have applied for General Nursing in Institute of Technologies all over ireland, I received no offers in round zero, is there any chance of getting an offer in round 1? I completed a FETAC level 5 in nursing studies and recieved 8 distinctions this year. Your help would be appreciated, thanks.

carinabean

You'll have to find out whether the IoTs/unis u applied for use the HELS scheme or the pilot marking scheme for FETAC applicants, DIT NCAD and most other uni's use the HELS scheme for scoring FETAC applicants and usually issue their offers in round zero, but nearly all other IoTs are givin out there offers in Round 1 on the 22 of Aug!
Last year I was offered a place in DIT in the first week of Aug, this year I have applied for the same course but in Carlow, where they give out there offers on Round 1 at the end of Aug!
Basically it depends on your college, www.cao.ie explains it..... somewhere on their page!

lkgirl

carinabean wrote: »

You'll have to find out whether the IoTs/unis u applied for use the HELS scheme or the pilot marking scheme for FETAC applicants, DIT NCAD and most other uni's use the HELS scheme for scoring FETAC applicants and usually issue their offers in round zero, but nearly all other IoTs are givin out there offers in Round 1 on the 22 of Aug!
Last year I was offered a place in DIT in the first week of Aug, this year I have applied for the same course but in Carlow, where they give out there offers on Round 1 at the end of Aug!
Basically it depends on your college, www.cao.ie explains it..... somewhere on their page!

Thanks for your help , i am still a little confused though as i read the fetac link and although the IT i have applied for uses the Pilot scheme, its states in the fetac handbook that it may not apply to fetac students applying to nursing? This is why I am confused lol

Further Ed.

carinabean wrote: »

You'll have to find out whether the IoTs/unis u applied for use the HELS scheme or the pilot marking scheme for FETAC applicants, DIT NCAD and most other uni's use the HELS scheme for scoring FETAC applicants and usually issue their offers in round zero, but nearly all other IoTs are givin out there offers in Round 1 on the 22 of Aug!
Last year I was offered a place in DIT in the first week of Aug, this year I have applied for the same course but in Carlow, where they give out there offers on Round 1 at the end of Aug!
Basically it depends on your college, www.cao.ie explains it..... somewhere on their page!

lkgirl wrote: »

Thanks for your help , i am still a little confused though as i read the fetac link and although the IT i have applied for uses the Pilot scheme, its states in the fetac handbook that it may not apply to fetac students applying to nursing? This is why I am confused lol

Nursing Applicants are treated differently and the above information isn't correct for those applying for Nursing but does apply to all other type of applicants. There are two schemes under which FETAC applicants are assessed within the CAO system. You can not select which scheme you are in - it depends on where you are applying to and what course.

In general the Pilot applies to the IoTs but it does not apply to all courses in the IoTs and Nursing is one of them. The original HELS scheme applies for the Nursing applicants regardless of where they are applying for. This is because there is a quota for the places i.e. a limited number available to FETAC applicants.

There are a few things to note re using the FETAC link to progress to Nursing degree
1. There are very few places for FETAC applicants (eg in DKIT there are only 2 places for FETAC applicants on the Midwifery course while only 2 in total for all the Nursing programmes in NUI Galway).
2. Random selection applies for these very few places.
3. You must be presenting with the full award with distinctions in the relevant modules
4. While 5 distinctions is what is required to progress onto the Nursing degree with a FETAC qualification in general all successful applicants present with 8 distinctions.

Regarding the dates for offers for those applying for Nursing, FETAC applicants receive their offers in Round Zero and not in Round 1. So you have not got an offer by now it is unlikely that you will but not impossible.

For further information have a look at the Nursing and Midwifery: A Career for You on http://www.nursingboard.ie/en/careers.aspx and also on http://www.fetac.ie/fetac/documents/Prog_HEC_2011.pdf and
http://www.cao.ie/index.php?page=scoring&s=fetac

lkgirl

thanks for your help

xCiViCx

Hey guys,

I am after applying for Software Development and Computer Networking as my first choice, and Software Development as my second choice in CIT. However, I applied for these courses last year but I was unsuccessful in securing a place there so I studied Software Development level 5/6. After finishing my exams this year, my results were 3 Distinctions, 3 Merits, and 3 Passes. Counting 8 subjects, this gives me a total of 295 points. The requirement for my first choice CIT is 300 points, and my second is 295 points. Now i'm waiting for Round 1, so i'm really hoping i get in there.. Would my results be enough? Just nervous about the whole thing now..

Thanks.

PTH2009

Got my first choice today.

WHOO

nhg

How do you go about geting FETAC results re-checked?

Further Ed.

Instructions on how to get your results checked would have been included with your results. Contact your centre as they are handling the re-checks. It is probably too late at this stage as the FETAC results were issued at the end of June.

nhg

i did write to the school principal when the results came out as I have to re-sit one of my ITEC exams and I had mentioned having an exam rechecked but I have heard nothing back since. I will keep trying to contact the college until I get it sorted. Thank You

Further Ed.

Ok - ITEC and FETAC are very different and different procedures apply for re-checks.

The FETAC policy of your centre probably requires you having to put in writing your request for a re-check and not just "mentioning".

I would recommend that you contact your centre again.

colruyt

I found the round 0/1 for FETAC students very confusing, for those who will be considered in round 1, they are not assessed based on LC results and therefore, why can't they get offer in round 0, why have to wait till round 1?

What's the main consideration to devided FETAC students into two groups? and are the quota reserved for both case or only for round zero?

Further Ed. wrote: »

Galway Indoors - it depends on which system your application is assessed under - whether you are applying via the Higher Education Links Scheme (HELS) or the Pilot scheme.

You can not choose which one - it depends on the course you have applied for.

If it is a Level 8 course with the universities then it is probably via the HELS and your offer is generally in Round Zero. This is what the CAO states re Round Zero

Round Zero
In early August there may be an issue of offers of places which go to certain categories of applicant who are not competing with those awaiting 2011 examination results or who are assessed on other criteria, i.e. graduate entry medicine applicants, additional mature applicants and
applicants presenting FETAC (2002-2011) for consideration for entry to courses with a quota for FETAC applicants may also be included at this stage

If you are applying for place in the IoTs then your offer will probably come with Round 1 as you are competing with Leaving Cert students for a place but your points are based on your FETAC applicants.

Woolly Red Hat - check the entry requirements with the HEI and also consider appealing.

Further Ed.

The reason for different rounds is that are several different ways of using the FETAC results to get into college - this is because over the years the system was added to as the Insitutes of Technology came on board but at least it will change into one method from next year.

Students in Round 0 do not compete against Leaving Cert students for students as the places are reserved just for FETAC students while in Round 1 FETAC students compete against Leaving Cert students for places.

Vista255

Further Ed. wrote: »

The reason for different rounds is that are several different ways of using the FETAC results to get into college - this is because over the years the system was added to as the Insitutes of Technology came on board but at least it will change into one method from next year.

Students in Round 0 do not compete against Leaving Cert students for students as the places are reserved just for FETAC students while in Round 1 FETAC students compete against Leaving Cert students for places.

ok im just wondering, say i did reasonably well in my FETAC course , and say the courses i chose on my CAO goes like this

1) IT Carlow
2) DCU
3) IT Carlow
4) Waterford IT
5) DIT
6) IT Carlow
and so on,

in round 0 could i be offered any of my choices or could i be offered my second choice (DCU) because its not an IT? thanks

colruyt

If I understand correctly, you should check for the courses you applied, since it's the course that decides whether you will be offered a place in round 0 or round 1. You can find the list here:
http://www.fetac.ie/fetac/documents/Prog_HEC_2011.pdf

Vista255 wrote: »

ok im just wondering, say i did reasonably well in my FETAC course , and say the courses i chose on my CAO goes like this

1) IT Carlow
2) DCU
3) IT Carlow
4) Waterford IT
5) DIT
6) IT Carlow
and so on,

in round 0 could i be offered any of my choices or could i be offered my second choice (DCU) because its not an IT? thanks

Vista255

colruyt wrote: »

If I understand correctly, you should check for the courses you applied, since it's the course that decides whether you will be offered a place in round 0 or round 1. You can find the list here:
http://www.fetac.ie/fetac/documents/Prog_HEC_2011.pdf

Thanks , its all good, i got offered Physiology and Health Science in carlow IT

colruyt

Vista255 wrote: »

Thanks , its all good, i got offered Physiology and Health Science in carlow IT

Congratulations! So seems just need to be patient, and what is yours will be yours!

Cornflowerblue

Hi all,

I recently did a nursing fetac course, got 9 distinctions and still didn't get an offer in round zero! All of my course choices were in universities.
I received an nomination from Adelaide nursing in trinity but it was my 2nd choice so now I'm thinking that I totally messed that opportunity by not putting it as my 1st choice!
What am I going to do next year when the chances of me going to Uni in September are so slim?! The system is in no ones favour and that's certainly evident. I'll be like a bloody tosser not in university
If anyone had advice that will shed some kind of beacon of hope on this situation, please, fire away.

spurious

Cornflowerblue wrote: »

Hi all,

I recently did a nursing fetac course, got 9 distinctions and still didn't get an offer in round zero! All of my course choices were in universities.
I received an nomination from Adelaide nursing in trinity but it was my 2nd choice so now I'm thinking that I totally messed that opportunity by not putting it as my 1st choice!
What am I going to do next year when the chances of me going to Uni in September are so slim?! The system is in no ones favour and that's certainly evident. I'll be like a bloody tosser not in university
If anyone had advice that will shed some kind of beacon of hope on this situation, please, fire away.

What do you mean by a nomination?

Cornflowerblue

spurious wrote: »

What do you mean by a nomination?

Sorry, I was unclear. The adelaide hospital society nominated me for a place on the general nursing (adelaide) course in trinity after I was successful with my application/essays etc. They make up a list of nominees each year for Trinity that they think are most suitable for the course, and then there's that bloody random selection system with the CAO.

spurious

Do you know have the Trinity offers been made yet? Do you know of anyone from FETAC who got one?

loveemmaxxxx

Cornflowerblue wrote: »

Hi all,

I recently did a nursing fetac course, got 9 distinctions and still didn't get an offer in round zero! All of my course choices were in universities.
I received an nomination from Adelaide nursing in trinity but it was my 2nd choice so now I'm thinking that I totally messed that opportunity by not putting it as my 1st choice!
What am I going to do next year when the chances of me going to Uni in September are so slim?! The system is in no ones favour and that's certainly evident. I'll be like a bloody tosser not in university
If anyone had advice that will shed some kind of beacon of hope on this situation, please, fire away.

I did pre nursing also and got no offer. I was offered social care yesterday. Idk I think I'm going to repeat my leaving cert. Plc it's like a lotto I rang universities a couple of days ago. They told me repeat. That only a handful get nursing with plc. I'm only just 19 also the nursing points came down this year.