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fish and chips exquisite cuisine?

  • 26-06-2011 9:41am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭


    I was in a place there in Nassau Street with two American friends and they were charging 18 euro for fish and chips and 14 euro for seafood chowder. you expect tourist prices in some places but this is going too far.

    some say the number of tourists to Dublin is falling and the best way to attract them is to fleece them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    I was in a place there in Nassau Street with two American friends and they were charging 18 euro for fish and chips and 14 euro for seafood chowder. you expect tourist prices in some places but this is going too far.

    I agree with you and you can be guaranteed that the fish is frozen, already battered (just like what you'd buy in Lidl or Tesco), and not fresh and freshly battered either -the day of decent fish and chips is gone forever.:( I don't mind getting the frozen battered fish but don't rob me on it !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 600 ✭✭✭The Orb


    Can you name and shame the establishment ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    The Orb wrote: »
    Can you name and shame the establishment ?

    can't quite remember the name. I think the Blarney Inn. Its on the corner of Nassau Street and Kildare Street.
    Go to Oliver St John Gogarty for similar prices. you will pay a hefty price there for a stew,which is supposed to be peasant food.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    vicwatson wrote: »
    I agree with you and you can be guaranteed that the fish is frozen, already battered (just like what you'd buy in Lidl or Tesco), and not fresh and freshly battered either -the day of decent fish and chips is gone forever.:( I don't mind getting the frozen battered fish but don't rob me on it !

    its served on a fancy plate with chunky chips, but essentially cheap fish.

    Leo Burdocks is still quite reasonable, okay, you can not sit down in the place but Beshoffs will give you a place to sit down and fish and chips for around a tenner. they should really set up shop for the tourist on the southside so tourists who want to try 'original Irish food' do not get overcharged too much. its embarrassing when the tourists are friends of yours.

    check out the menu
    http://www.blarneyinn.ie/maincourse.php

    I appear to be mistaken. Fish and chips is 17 Euro and not 18 as previously stated.
    check out the prices for a fry and stew.
    what does handcut chips means? is there some dude in the kitchen slowly chopping them into equal portions and how labour intensive is this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 600 ✭✭✭The Orb


    The Blarney Inn, to Irish food what Carrolls is to Irish fashion.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    The Orb wrote: »
    The Blarney Inn, to Irish food what Carrolls is to Irish fashion.

    maybe I am a leprechaun but Carrolls has decent stuff as well as kitsch. I buy Landsdowne products there and their imitation rugby jerseys are good quality. The most important thing about the place is however the price-its reasonable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭Shanannigan


    go to Beshoff's next time.. there's a fine fish n chip meal to be had there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 600 ✭✭✭The Orb


    Fuinseog wrote: »
    maybe I am a leprechaun but Carrolls has decent stuff as well as kitsch. I buy Landsdowne products there and their imitation rugby jerseys are good quality. The most important thing about the place is however the price-its reasonable.

    My point is if you're looking for something authentically Irish then Carrolls is not the place, that is beyond doubt.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 405 ✭✭Econoline Van


    The fleecing of tourists in Dublin is nothing short of disgraceful and ridiculously short-sighted. How all those pubs in Temple Bar are full every night is beyond me. €6.50 for a pint in Fitzsimon's, it's hilarious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    fuscardi on capel street do a fantastic 1 n 1 as does the kingfisher. burdocks is very poor imo


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Ah one n'one, I've never heard this outside Dublin
    Another one is ordering a bag a chips is a single.
    Ah bless ;)

    Beshoff's is a fine spot, you'll be sorted for less then a tenner
    I agree they need a place around the Southside somewhere


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    Fuinseog wrote: »
    its served on a fancy plate with chunky chips, but essentially cheap fish.

    Leo Burdocks is still quite reasonable, okay, you can not sit down in the place but Beshoffs will give you a place to sit down and fish and chips for around a tenner. they should really set up shop for the tourist on the southside so tourists who want to try 'original Irish food' do not get overcharged too much. its embarrassing when the tourists are friends of yours.

    check out the menu
    http://www.blarneyinn.ie/maincourse.php

    I appear to be mistaken. Fish and chips is 17 Euro and not 18 as previously stated.
    check out the prices for a fry and stew.
    what does handcut chips means? is there some dude in the kitchen slowly chopping them into equal portions and how labour intensive is this?

    Hand cut chips are exactly what they sound like - cut by hand in house as opposed to ordering in prepped / frozen chips. Places doing hand cut chips often leave the skins on as it makes them more authentic / rustic looking.

    When I worked in the business any place serving 'Fish N' Chips' would have the batter prepared and dip the fish in same prior to dropping in the fryer. The fillets most likely come in frozen.

    Chippers obviously serve a lot of fish and chips and tend to batter and part cook a number of fillets in advance.

    €16.95 is well pricey for this though! :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    fuscardi on capel street do a fantastic 1 n 1 as does the kingfisher. burdocks is very poor imo

    Burdocks is savage - well the one off Christchurch is anyhow! Only non-Italian chipper I would consider going to!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    go to Beshoff's next time.. there's a fine fish n chip meal to be had there

    Meh - wouldn't be gone on Beshoff's - can't bate a decent Eye-talian chipper!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,054 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Why you would bring people to places like this is beyond me.

    Check out the early birds in this place for decent food.

    www.wolfes.ie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,084 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Thats a rip off €18.I got smoked cod, cheese burger and two chips in local chipper last night for €13. I know the pub has higher overheads but thats just robbery


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    fuscardi on capel street do a fantastic 1 n 1 as does the kingfisher. burdocks is very poor imo

    what is a one on one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    Why you would bring people to places like this is beyond me.

    Check out the early birds in this place for decent food.

    www.wolfes.ie

    we had limited time and were confined to the general area due to time constraints. the object was to get something fast. we were going to have something in the museum but the selection there is limited.


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    Fuinseog wrote: »
    what is a one on one?

    Fish and chips. It's an old Dublin thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,054 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Fuinseog wrote: »
    what is a one on one?

    Dublinese for fish and chips.
    Fuinseog wrote: »
    we had limited time and were confined to the general area due to time constraints.

    Sorry, no excuse, you should be ashamed of yourself falling in to a tourist trap in your own capital. Worse still, you dragged tourists from the US with you. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭themandan6611


    neris wrote: »
    Thats a rip off €18.I got smoked cod, cheese burger and two chips in local chipper last night for €13. I know the pub has higher overheads but thats just robbery

    you hungry fooker :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    The fleecing of tourists in Dublin is nothing short of disgraceful and ridiculously short-sighted. How all those pubs in Temple Bar are full every night is beyond me. €6.50 for a pint in Fitzsimon's, it's hilarious.

    You are pretty much contradicting yourself in that post.

    These places charge these prices, because they can. They are full every night, as you pointed out, and their prices certainly aren't driving away their target market.

    They are presumably making a fortune if they are packed every night and charging these prices, fair play to them.

    I don't frequent these establishments myself, so it's not my place to complain really, just to admire them.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 405 ✭✭Econoline Van


    Des wrote: »
    You are pretty much contradicting yourself in that post.

    These places charge these prices, because they can. They are full every night, as you pointed out, and their prices certainly aren't driving away their target market.

    They are presumably making a fortune if they are packed every night and charging these prices, fair play to them.

    I don't frequent these establishments myself, so it's not my place to complain really, just to admire them.

    Ireland is surely gaining a reputation for being a rip-off. It's the top thing that tourists complain about it when they're leaving. I read about it in the Irish Times. Those places are making a fortune now but I'd be surprised if prospective tourists don't eventually cotton on and start avoiding Temple Bar or Dublin/Ireland in general. In my opinion, all businesses which profit from the tourist market should do their best to make their money AND ensure that the tourist leaves Ireland with a positive impression and returns back again and again.

    (On a less serious note, I'm quite angry about it because I love to meet foreign ladies but hate being fleeced by the pubs of Temple Bar while doing so! ;) )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭latenia


    €6.50 a pint is really only an issue if you're drinking to get drunk and have 8 or 10 drinks. Most tourists will have 2 or 3 pints which means the difference between drinking there and a 'normal' city centre pub is about a fiver for the night.

    Compared to some places on the continent and the US, I've never been totally bum-raped for a drink in Ireland, even in supposedly high-end bars and nightclubs. Try buying even something basic like a bottle of water near a tourist spot in Paris or Rome and you'll see what a real rip-off is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 288 ✭✭n900guy


    Eh?

    It's €14.95 for very nice Fish & Chips in the 5-star Shelbourne Hotel up the street.

    It's around €18 in the Four Seasons in Ballsbridge.

    Most cafes in the city will be under a tenner.

    Is there any justification for the OP other than being very unfamiliar with Dublin? You basically took them to the equivalent of a greasy spoon on Leicester Square or Times Square. There a hundred reasons to complain about Dublin, but your OP isn't one of them IMO!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,054 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    To be honest, it's a bit of a pattern with the poster. I saw rubbish, therefore the Northside is filthy, I got ripped off, therefore the city is a rip off.

    His last thread was locked, he ignored anyone trying to speak sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    i paid €14.95 for a fish and exactly 7 chips in the yacht in clontarf a while ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    Des wrote: »
    You are pretty much contradicting yourself in that post.

    These places charge these prices, because they can. They are full every night, as you pointed out, and their prices certainly aren't driving away their target market.

    They are presumably making a fortune if they are packed every night and charging these prices, fair play to them.

    I don't frequent these establishments myself, so it's not my place to complain really, just to admire them.

    there are Americans who save for years to come to Ireland and all we do is piss on them and rip them off.
    they put up with it cos they are on holidays, but it hardly encourages them to come back.
    Nice to nice irish greed is still alive.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    To be honest, it's a bit of a pattern with the poster. I saw rubbish, therefore the Northside is filthy, I got ripped off, therefore the city is a rip off.

    His last thread was locked, he ignored anyone trying to speak sense.

    you do not read my threads and that is your problem. I did not say all of the northside is dirty, i said Talbot street is dirty and I made that clear in several posts.
    again I do not say that all of Dublin is a rip off. you just have to read the posts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,054 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    To be honest, it's a bit of a pattern with the poster. "I saw rubbish, therefore the Northside is filthy, I got ripped off, therefore the city is a rip off."
    Fuinseog wrote: »
    I do not say that all of Dublin is a rip off.
    Fuinseog wrote: »
    all we do is piss on them and rip them off.
    Fuinseog wrote: »
    Nice to nice irish greed is still alive.
    Fuinseog wrote: »
    some say the number of tourists to Dublin is falling and the best way to attract them is to fleece them.



    Point proven. Stop trolling your own thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭Nolanger


    Just had a nice portion of cod and chips for €3 in that corner chipper on Aungier St (opposite DBS).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭The Scientician


    Fuinseog wrote: »
    Leo Burdocks is still quite reasonable, okay, you can not sit down in the place

    You can in the one in Temple Bar beside what used to be Eamon Doran's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,340 CMod ✭✭✭✭Davy


    You can in the one in Temple Bar beside what used to be Eamon Doran's.

    And the one at lower liffey st


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    Point proven. Stop trolling your own thread.

    you seem to have little to contribute so do not feel obliged to write any nonsense here.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    Nolanger wrote: »
    Just had a nice portion of cod and chips for €3 in that corner chipper on Aungier St (opposite DBS).

    which makes it all the more stranger that places that fleece tourists are still in business.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    You can in the one in Temple Bar beside what used to be Eamon Doran's.
    Davy wrote: »
    And the one at lower liffey st

    and rathmines


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,054 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Fuinseog wrote: »
    you seem to have little to contribute so do not feel obliged to write any nonsense here.


    Come on Fuinseog, I contributed, I gave you a website of a really really, reasonably priced good Irish restaurant, Shanannigan, The Orb, admiralofthefleet, MCMLXXV, Nolanger and Davy have contributed with alternative places for fish and chips, but instead of thanking me or anyone for the info you harp on about Irish greed and ripping people off as if every restaurant is doing it.

    They are not. In fact, you have Irish people on here selflessly giving you pearls. The city is a friendly, reasonable place if you want it to be, just like this forum.

    n900guy came up with the point that your complaint is a silly one. You walked in to an overpriced tourist trap and handed over your money. That can happen to the gullible in any city in the world. Again, just cause you got fleeced in this place, it doesn't mean that they are all like that.

    Try Wolfes, it's really good, that's an honest bit of advice from someone that knows the city.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭killbillvol2


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    Come on Fuinseog, I contributed, I gave you a website of a really really, reasonably priced good Irish restaurant, Shanannigan, The Orb, admiralofthefleet, MCMLXXV, Nolanger and Davy have contributed with alternative places for fish and chips, but instead of thanking me or anyone for the info you harp on about Irish greed and ripping people off as if every restaurant is doing it.

    They are not. In fact, you have Irish people on here selflessly giving you pearls. The city is a friendly, reasonable place if you want it to be, just like this forum.

    n900guy came up with the point that your complaint is a silly one. You walked in to an overpriced tourist trap and handed over your money. That can happen to the gullible in any city in the world. Again, just cause you got fleeced in this place, it doesn't mean that they are all like that.

    Try Wolfes, it's really good, that's an honest bit of advice from someone that knows the city.

    The OP is best ignored - I've lost count of the number of chips on his shoulders.

    Thanks for the tip re Wolfes - looks like a great menu. I have a few Canadians to entertain next week so that's dinner sorted for one night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭Shanannigan


    The OP is best ignored - I've lost count of the number of chips on his shoulders.

    aye, he could nearly open his own chipper and fleece the tourists (yeah.. i went there!!)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    The OP is best ignored - I've lost count of the number of chips on his shoulders.

    Thanks for the tip re Wolfes - looks like a great menu. I have a few Canadians to entertain next week so that's dinner sorted for one night.

    I like the pun, but nobody is telling you to respond to my thread so do not feel obliged.

    A lot of people find certain places in Dublin are overcharging, note I said certain and not all. I for one believe this is doing more harm than good.

    The Americans are a soft target in this affair. Like us when they go on holiday they adopt the attitude that they are not here for a long time they are here for a good time. They will pay the OTT prices, but it hardly induces them to return.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,054 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Fuinseog wrote: »
    note I said certain and not all

    Eventually. As pointed out to you, this is a fact of life. Every city has tourist traps, the only thing you can do about these places is to do a tiny bit of research, read the menu outside the place and go somewhere more suitable. Your location is perfect for lunch around that area, loads of good reasonable restaurants.
    Fuinseog wrote: »
    The Americans are a soft target in this affair

    They are not. Try waiting in a restaurant. The Americans that visit Ireland now are generally well educated, clever people. They will pay and tip, no doubt about that, but they expect service and quality.

    The American's you were with were probably embarrassed to say anything because they were there with a "local".
    The OP is best ignored

    I know, but he so needs an education, although, giving that he won't acknowledge any of the helpful tips makes me agree with about his chips.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭killbillvol2


    Fuinseog wrote: »
    I like the pun, but nobody is telling you to respond to my thread so do not feel obliged.

    A lot of people find certain places in Dublin are overcharging, note I said certain and not all. I for one believe this is doing more harm than good.

    The Americans are a soft target in this affair. Like us when they go on holiday they adopt the attitude that they are not here for a long time they are here for a good time. They will pay the OTT prices, but it hardly induces them to return.

    You don't really get the concept of boards, do you?

    As for Americans, those travelling in recent years are a very discerning bunch in the main and certainly wouldn't have wandered into a tourist trap if you hadn't brought them there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    another place ive got a good fish and chips was on the mv cill airne


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    another place ive got a good fish and chips was on the mv cill airne

    Quite fitting given your username! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Just had a nice portion of cod and chips for €3 in that corner chipper on Aungier St (opposite DBS).

    Must be the cheapest one and one in Ireland ?? Good deal.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 405 ✭✭Econoline Van


    vicwatson wrote: »
    Must be the cheapest one and one in Ireland ?? Good deal.

    Borza in Dalkey were doing €3 "fish strips and chips". A good portion of battered fresh mackerel and well enough chips. Savage deal and gorgeous to boot,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Borza in Dalkey were doing €3 "fish strips and chips". A good portion of battered fresh mackerel and well enough chips. Savage deal and gorgeous to boot,

    Ok, good deal, so it's one of the cheapest one and ones in the country :D

    Never had battered Mackerel - nice one, a bit boney for battering perhaps ??


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 405 ✭✭Econoline Van


    vicwatson wrote: »
    Ok, good deal, so it's one of the cheapest one and ones in the country :D

    Never had battered Mackerel - nice one, a bit boney for battering perhaps ??

    Mackerel's easily boned or filleted or whatever the term is. Caught a few myself last summer off the coast out there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭InTouch


    Fuinseog wrote: »
    I was in a place there in Nassau Street with two American friends and they were charging 18 euro for fish and chips and 14 euro for seafood chowder. you expect tourist prices in some places but this is going too far.

    some say the number of tourists to Dublin is falling and the best way to attract them is to fleece them.

    Hey. I was in there a few times with tourist friends and the food is actually really nice. The prices are steep though, I'll give you that..


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