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Should She Pay

  • 25-06-2011 8:34pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10


    Hi,
    Im looking for some advice. My girlfriends house she shares is breaking up next month and it seems like the perfect opportunity for us after 2 years of going out to try living together. I have my own house so she would be living with me. At the moment we have have talked and are cool with the idea but are gonna take two weeks to think it thru and then chat again.

    I mentioned this to a friend and i then siad it would be cool coz the extra cash would come in handy as things have been tight lately. The friend said i could in no way ask for cash as rent coz it would seem scabby. In my mind i thought it was a given that she should pay, am i wrong. I was just thinking about €200 a month i wouldnt expect the going rate.

    Any advice welcome


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Of course she should pay. :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 753 ✭✭✭Needler


    (without reading)

    Of course!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭red menace


    Yep she should pay


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    Depends......

    How good is she at giving head?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    I'm sure she will offer to pay her share of the bills.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,028 ✭✭✭✭--LOS--


    ye she should def pay, she'd be paying if you were both renting somewhere together, she's lucky to have the opportunity to move in with you and pay cheaper rent than normal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    That's a talk for you and her first.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Split the bill 50/50 if she is working. I don't think I know anyone at all that would object to that be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,838 ✭✭✭theboss80


    She should be paying half the rent and bills. She would be doing that anyway if she moved somewhere else.

    Trust me you'll be paying down the line enough if ye ever get married


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,419 ✭✭✭✭jokettle


    I see no reason why she should get a free place to stay. I'm assuming you have a mortgage to pay, in which case she should of course contribute to that, but if you owe nothing on the house then maybe it could be a bit stingy...? I'm not really sure where I stand on that one, tbh.

    If it were me I'd still expect to pay though. Otherwise it's just taking advantage of your good nature.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭Aishae


    absolutely she has to pay her way - its in no way scabby to suggest splitting costs as youll both be using the electricity and so on. the idea that its scabby is the weird one here i think


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭EGAR


    Do you pay for a mortgage? Or do you own the house without any cash owed?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    PK2008 wrote: »
    Depends......

    How good is she at giving head?

    Does it matter, bills still need to be paid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    No. Let her do the washing up, cooking, cleaning and eh..... polishing while you pay all the bills. Like a trial marriage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭King of Kings


    hondasam wrote: »
    Does it matter, bills still need to be paid.

    of course it does matter - but she should still pay


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 Khal


    Yeah i pay a mortgage.

    thanks for the replies:-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭Aishae


    even if he owns the house there are still bills - electricity, posibbly cable, bins etc. whatever it adds up to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭amen


    Be careful. She really needs to sign a tenancy agreement. If you break up you don't want her claiming that she paid part of the mortage and has a claim to some of the house.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    i'm assuming you are paying a mortgage on the house as opposed to renting. in the long term were you looking into her living with you there then anyway?

    if i was in the same way as you, i'd only be looking to split the bills.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭whatswhat


    200 quid is the going rate?????

    Good Luck with that one!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭EGAR


    Aishae wrote: »
    even if he owns the house there are still bills - electricity, posibbly cable, bins etc. whatever it adds up to.

    I was asking strictly in terms of rent. Obviously, utility bills will have to be split in the middle, that is common sense! If you pay a mortgage then hell yeah, let her pay towards it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 297 ✭✭dienbienphu


    make her a tenant but give her a fare deal. you dont want to be breaking up with the girl 7 years down the road and having to sell the house because you were 'not been scabby',

    and get rid of your mate, he sounds like a dim wit


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 400 ✭✭Im Only 71Kg


    f*ck that..ride her for all she's worth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,033 ✭✭✭thebullkf


    I assume you're asll taking the mick....

    she should pay her share of the bills etc.

    but charging her rent... :eek:

    just cause she'd be paying it elsewhere does not mean she should with you OP.

    You'd still be paying it if she wasn't around...

    If she offers, great, if not.... i wouldn't ask my moth anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,081 ✭✭✭ziedth


    amen wrote: »
    Be careful. She really needs to sign a tenancy agreement. If you break up you don't want her claiming that she paid part of the mortage and has a claim to some of the house.

    I'm afraid to say this is really good advice. A friend of mine got stung that way big time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭booboo88


    of course she should pay??? i live with my parents, and i still pay more than my fair share, i think it would be quite rude for her not to pay


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 Khal


    amen wrote: »
    Be careful. She really needs to sign a tenancy agreement. If you break up you don't want her claiming that she paid part of the mortage and has a claim to some of the house.

    Wow, thanks for that, great point. that will be an awkward conversation but one well worth having.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Toby Take a Bow


    thebullkf wrote: »
    .... i wouldn't ask my moth anyway.

    :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭carfiosaoorl


    Definitely split the bills but charging her rent would be scummy imo


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    If you don't make her pay her way, you won't know if she's with you for your gaff or your big cock personalty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭Show Time


    Unless she is a freeloader she will offer to pay her way so don't worry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭MungBean


    She will try to pay her fair share herself but dont ask her for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Khal wrote: »
    Wow, thanks for that, great point. that will be an awkward conversation but one well worth having.

    There should be nothing awkward about it, if you can't talk about something as simple as this god help ye in the future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,259 ✭✭✭Rowley Birkin QC


    thebullkf wrote: »

    If she offers, great, if not.... i wouldn't ask my moth anyway.

    Obviously, sure where would a moth acquire legal tender?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭SVI40


    Go and talk to a solicitor before you do anything. If things go wrong down the line, you don't want her trying to have a claim on the house. I think there was a change in legislation recently where co-habiting couples can now seek maintenance from each other. I may be wrong, but get some sound legal advice first.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Cianos


    If I was renting, I'd expect her to share the rent. If I was living in my own house paying my own mortgage off, I'd never ask her for rent. Unless you had to ask a tenant to move out so she could move in, in which case you're actually losing cash by her moving in...but otherwise asking for rent is pretty scabby imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭HellFireClub


    That's one seriously scabby mate you have there OP...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭HellFireClub


    Don't forget OP, as far as I'm aware, new legislation came in at the start of this year which completely changes the landscape for couples living together. I'm not fully up on it but I heard that if you are living with someone for more than 2 years and then break up, the other person can have entitlements to your property rights, pension, etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,716 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    Yes, she should pay.

    With her life.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Doom


    Needler wrote: »
    (without reading)

    Of course!
    If men pay for sex, so should she.....did I miss something? ??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Yes, your Khalessi should pay.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 Khal


    Yes, your Khalessi should pay.

    :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 288 ✭✭n900guy


    Khal wrote: »

    Any advice welcome

    Have her pay the going rate for the place, no discounts, or else you will be seen as a soft target and end up screwed financially. If you were both renting a place together, it would be an even split unless her income was clearly different to yours.

    I am sure she thinks it's a good idea. She will have much more disposable income.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭CrackisWhack


    God, what a sexist OP is:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭julyjane


    If she's any good she will offer to pay something. But then when you enter into a cohabiting arrangement, it's like you're kind of pooling both incomes anyway so if you are finding things tight every month after paying the mortgage from your own salary it's not very fair if she pays nothing towards it but can live the life of Reilly because all her wages are her own. That's the way it works in this house, we have our own bank accounts but roughly (we don't over-analyse it) each have the same amount of disposable income for ourselves after everything gets paid.

    But then at the end of the day you own the house, and if it becomes a long term arrangement then 20 years down the line you own a house and she has none.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭Aishae


    amen wrote: »
    Be careful. She really needs to sign a tenancy agreement. If you break up you don't want her claiming that she paid part of the mortage and has a claim to some of the house.

    wow - excellent point
    ____________________

    if you agree she wont part own the place in the evnt of crap hitting the fan - then she wouldnt be paying towards the mortgage of course not. but bills are another matter - she would be using the facilities.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭foxinsox


    I would say she will probably offer to pay some rent.

    But it depends really how high your mortgage is.

    I would suggest that she should pay roughly what the going rate in your area for a room in a house would be and split the bills.

    You really do need to check out the legal implications as co-habiting couples legal entitlements have changed recently.

    You do not want to be casually letting her live in your house paying you rent and then you split up and she has claim to your house.

    I hope that it all works out happy for you and you spend many happy years together but just in case.. cover your ass and check out legal stuff first.

    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    She should contribute, half the bills at the very minimum and an extra few bob in regards to rent. Why should you have to pay the mortgage and she gets to live somewhere for free?

    I dont think its scabby sure at the end of the day how many parents ask for "rent" money from their kids if they still live at home and are working. Its not the going rate but its a token gesture.

    AH ans: Make her pay for the rent by making a sex tape and selling it on the internet.


    tl;dr dump her have a ****


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    rent in this case is rent on money ie:interest so get her to pay half the monthly interest on the mortgage plus half the bills


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