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Engine wailing after timing belt change

  • 25-06-2011 7:54am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭


    Got the timing belt done on a Mark 1 Focus 1.6 Petrol.

    I find there is now a lot of wailing under acceleration (from 2,000 revs upwards) and a bit when I decelerate. I also get the feeling that I'm not getting as many MPG as I was before.

    Anything to worry about ?


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,975 ✭✭✭W.Shakes-Beer


    If it was me I'd bring it back to the guy who done it, just to be safe. Or even bring it to another mechanic to get a second opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭Deminiman


    Timing might be out, Bring it back to be safe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭jurahnimoh


    Bring it back as soon as ya can


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    It may be tensioned to tightly, this can cause a whine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭AugustusMinimus


    Thanks guys. Will bring it back.

    My first thought might be the belt being too tight.

    Would the engine have lasted a week if the timing was out ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭Deminiman


    Depends really how far out it is, best of luck with that!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 873 ✭✭✭spiggotpaddy


    get it sorted without delay. if the belt is to tight it will wear rapidly, and fail and then your mechanic will convince you it was your own fault for wearing blue socks and not checking your headlight fluid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,191 ✭✭✭_Conrad_


    Would the engine have lasted a week if the timing was out ?

    If it was out a bit yes, if it was out by a lot no, but there's a lot of variation between being out just a tiny bit and out so badly it does serious harm, though you'd also have other symptoms such is it not running right and lacking power.

    You should definitely bring the car back though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    If the timing was off by a tooth, which would be the minimum that would allow the car to still drive, you would still have running issues and a lack of power but nothing to cause a whining noise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭David09


    If the timing was off by a tooth, which would be the minimum that would allow the car to still drive, you would still have running issues and a lack of power but nothing to cause a whining noise.


    Tensioners on those engines are automatic, ie spring loaded. It is impossible to overtighten or undertighten the timing belt.

    It's possible but unlikely that the timing is out. The pulleys aren't keyed ie freewheeling, and special locking tools are required to set the timing correctly. If the correct tools were used, the timing should be spot-on.

    Is the squeak periodic or constant?
    If periodic, check the spring loaded tensioner on the alternator drivebelt. The spring is known to lose it's force and cause teh belt to come slightly loose, just enough to make noise.

    If it's constant, check pulley bearings and make sure that any plastic covers aren't loose and fouling the rotating pulleys.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    ^^^ what he said. Spot on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    Not all MK1's have the auto spring tensioner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    Not all MK1's have the auto spring tensioner.
    I know some of the early ones had a ratchet type tensioner but I don't know about a manual one. I could be wrong though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    Loads of the ones I've done have had the manual tensioner with the little arrow to show the correct tension. Only the later MK1's, 02ish plus, have the auto spring tensioner afaik.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭AugustusMinimus


    Hi guys.

    I still didn't get a chance for it to be looked at. Driving home there this evening, the noise is louder than ever.

    However, note the following.

    1. The noise get's louder as I travel faster
    2. The noise is still there even when I press the clutch in or am in neutral when coasting

    Hence, I don't think it's the engine at all.

    I'll get it looked at tomorrow, but any guesses what it may actually be ? Wheel bearing or something along those lines ?

    I've included an mp3 file with the annoying din in the background. (Sorry but I had to zip it to upload it.)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    Sounds like a wheel bearing alright. Rear ones would be a fairly common failure on MK1 focussessess.


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