McGuirks Online Prices

Dr_Colossus

Looking to buy a few loose ends at present such as shoes, softspikes, glove, umbrella etc so with the view of buying new irons in the future checked McGuirks prices versus the competition in the north GolfStoreEurope and the price differences are just staggering.

Please see the attached spreadsheet for a price comparison on a number of various items. Both items are identical and given that they're from an online retailer on the island of Ireland would expect prices to be pretty competitive with the only noticeable difference being the difference in the VAT rate.

Granted McGuirks do "free" postage on all orders while GolfStoreEurope has complementary postage on all orders greater than £50 but to counter act this GolfStoreEurope has a far greater range of products and customisable options. GolfStoreEurope also has a price match promise where you can send them the URL for a same product cheaper elsewhere and they'll try and match it, do McGuirks have a similar option?

I've some vouchers with McGuirks so ideally would like to buy my products there but given the price differences I'll be buying the bare minimum and spending my money at GolfStoreEurope instead. Does anyone know if McGuirks can greatly improve on their online advertised prices when buying in person from the store? Can't see how they sell much online given the prices quoted and range of products available in comparison to the competition.

Dr_Colossus

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bailey99

email that list to mcguirks for an explanation.

I go to golf shop to look at products in the flesh, then go buy them online at 20-30% minimum cheaper.

Shops need to get real for prices.

Adiaga 2

Dr_Colossus wrote: »

Does anyone know if McGuirks can greatly improve on their online advertised prices when buying in person from the store?

Ha! It's the opposite from my experience. I saw a bag on their site a while back for a good price so went to their Leopardstown store with a view to buying it, only to find it was €15 more in store. I told them about the difference and they said something like oh that's just the online price and something about overheads.

That's a very interesting price comparison sheet you added. Depressing really. It just goes to show how ripped off we get in this country. It's the same when you hear constantly how so many British chain stores' most profitable outlets are mainly Irish based ones.

david

In fairness that's the sticker price did you ask them for a discount/pricematch? I find most SKU's would be priced the same online as in-store with McGuirks.

I know a few guys in Leopardstown and I'd be shocked if they didn't negotiate the sticker prices, they have huge buying power.

I know that most PGA pro-shops in a buying group (Europro etc) can afford to match online prices inclusive of VAT. Give custom to your local pro and ask for a discount.

Support our indigenous golfing industry - keep jobs and money in the country.

D.

PAULWATSON

bailey99 wrote: »

email that list to mcguirks for an explanation.

I go to golf shop to look at products in the flesh, then go buy them online at 20-30% minimum cheaper.

Shops need to get real for prices.

:rolleyes: Has to be one of the best posts I've read in a while. Don't know much about the costs involved in running a business do you?

k.p.h

I used to work in electronic retail sales and we used to get a lot of people coming into the shop comparing prices with online prices. Often get asked Why is this 50e cheaper online etc.. TBH honest the margins are a lot tighter than you would think when you take into account all the overheads as mentioned above.

It's as simple as the only disadvantage to buying in a shop is cost. The only advantage to buying online is cost.

Take what you will from that. I find that retailers will always move on price if their is room to maneuver and still make it worth while for them. But cost +15% is probably only just over break even time for them. Cost + 15% for an online retailer is well in the black.

Golf retailers do need a bit of an overhaul though of they are expected to compete nowdays.

bailey99

PAULWATSON wrote: »

:rolleyes: Has to be one of the best posts I've read in a while. Don't know much about the costs involved in running a business do you?

I'm guessing your an IBEC spokesman or some other $%"£

Guy:Incognito

bailey99 wrote: »

I'm guessing your an IBEC spokesman or some other $%"£

So it costs the same to rent a premises in a retail setting, pay the associated bills and rates etc and have it staffed as it does to have a warehouse in an industrial estate somewhere with 1 or 2 lads sending out packages does it?

On a similar note, places like McGuirks , while they have an online shop , should not be compared to online only retailers. They still have all the costs of bricks and mortar shops, plus the online reatil side.

Adiaga 2

david wrote: »

In fairness that's the sticker price did you ask them for a discount/pricematch? I find most SKU's would be priced the same online as in-store with McGuirks.

I did of course ask for the pricematch and was fobbed off. This was by the girl at the counter. I think they are a bit better now in terms of pricing being the same online. This happened about 2 years ago. If it had said online only offer or something then that would have been fine but it didn't.

hades

The best guys i've found to price match is Halpennys

Just before christmas last year McGuirks had the R9 Driver, 9.5 Senior shaft for €129... i rang them and asked if they had the 10.5 stiff in stock, they didn't.

I rang Halpennys and asked if they price matched, they said they do, but on like for like products. Now they had the spec of the driver i wanted and it wasn't really like for like, but they gave it to me for €129 instead of the €199 it was online.

JD Dublin

Anyone tried Plus Four Golf in Phibsboro? I have bought some gear there recently, and found them to be great value, one drawback is that they are not very web friendly, they dont have a website as far as I know. Anytime I've gone there I bought more than I expected to, purely because the gear is so reasonably priced. When you go to the till, you can bargain further with the staff there, if you have the inclination.

appleface

There are some decent golf club pro shops out there trying to compete with the big guys, you would be suprised - you can actually do just as well shopping locally sometimes and it also pays to build up a relationship with someone good for advice and future offers etc. PM me if you want some recommendations.

appleface

just searched for this thread I remember from not too long back, this poor lad was done, just goes to show you - online isnt always best option, a lot of fakes out there. A lot to be said for being able to walk into a store and demand a refund if your not happy!

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=72702492

shaviebeby

bailey99 wrote: »

email that list to mcguirks for an explanation.

I go to golf shop to look at products in the flesh, then go buy them online at 20-30% minimum cheaper.

Shops need to get real for prices.

Ah Bailey....judging by the link appleface just posted looks like you've been done. Bad advice you are giving people...tut tut....:P

BiffoGooner

I ordered a single lob wedge from McGuirks online once.


I got it 7 weeks later.

Hacker111

shaviebeby wrote: »

Ah Bailey....judging by the link appleface just posted looks like you've been done. Bad advice you are giving people...tut tut....:P

lololol

kermitpwee

appleface wrote: »

just searched for this thread I remember from not too long back, this poor lad was done, just goes to show you - online isnt always best option, a lot of fakes out there. A lot to be said for being able to walk into a store and demand a refund if your not happy!

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=72702492

Golfstoreeurope.com and Mcguirks are legit tho. you are missing the point.

appleface

kermitpwee wrote: »

Golfstoreeurope.com and Mcguirks are legit tho. you are missing the point.

I was responding to the subsequent comments about trying things out in local shops, availing of the time and advice and in some cases trying out products in local shops, then going on line and buying from an online outlet. Yes these are legit but not all out there are, if something is looking 20-30% cheaper online then it is prob too good to be true!

bailey99

Hacker111 wrote: »

lololol

heh hacker

owner was on holidays, rang me last week with direct number for taylormade respresentative in Ireland. Club is being replaced no cost. Apparently the company is one of the biggest Taylormade retailers in the US.

So I wasnt done as you put it hahahahahhahaha

bailey99

appleface wrote: »

just searched for this thread I remember from not too long back, this poor lad was done, just goes to show you - online isnt always best option, a lot of fakes out there. A lot to be said for being able to walk into a store and demand a refund if your not happy!

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=72702492

wasn't done at all bananaface as you put it. The fact I wasn't getting any communication back had me worried, but the owner of the store rang me and sorted everything out.

Buy them in the States for 305euro odd or in mcguirks for 450 - 500 euro. An appleface and his money are soon parted lolol

Hacker111

bailey99 wrote: »

heh hacker

owner was on holidays, rang me last week with direct number for taylormade respresentative in Ireland. Club is being replaced no cost. Apparently the company is one of the biggest Taylormade retailers in the US.

So I wasnt done as you put it hahahahahhahaha

glad u didn't lose out....

mirrorball

bailey99 wrote: »

wasn't done at all bananaface as you put it. The fact I wasn't getting any communication back had me worried, but the owner of the store rang me and sorted everything out.

Buy them in the States for 305euro odd or in mcguirks for 450 - 500 euro. An appleface and his money are soon parted lolol

Nice attitude.....appleface didn't seem to be gloating, just pointing out some pros and cons.
I'd say the TM rep was delighted to hear you'd bought from the states. Fair play to him for sorting it out.
Out of interest, what was the import duty like?

bailey99

mirrorball wrote: »

Nice attitude.....appleface didn't seem to be gloating, just pointing out some pros and cons.
I'd say the TM rep was delighted to hear you'd bought from the states. Fair play to him for sorting it out.
Out of interest, what was the import duty like?

didnt pay any

shaviebeby

bailey99 wrote: »

mirrorball wrote: »

Nice attitude.....appleface didn't seem to be gloating, just pointing out some pros and cons.
I'd say the TM rep was delighted to hear you'd bought from the states. Fair play to him for sorting it out.
Out of interest, what was the import duty like?

didnt pay any

Oh yea??? What is the name of the Taylor Made rep, I personally know him.... Who is it Bailey?

appleface

shaviebeby wrote: »

Oh yea??? What is the name of the Taylor Made rep, I personally know him.... Who is it Bailey?

yeah Bailey who did you talk to??? I am sure the Irish TM guy was 'delighted' to help someone who was buying outside the Irish system, skipping the duty etc. Your just trying to save face..... tomatoface ;-) you havent the first clue who he is....

karl13

I have bought a lot of gear off the mc guirks website and find the prices to be very reasonable compared to some other sites and on one or two occasions they did not stock my item but the gentleman in charge was only too happy to help me find an alternative and give me a good deal on it.Some times I have found cheaper prices on other UK sites but any time I have ordered from these it is more hassle then it is worth and a lot of these charge for delivery.

Uncle Ben

Its hard to argue over not buying online. Before the christmas, I tried various Irish golfshops and online sites whilst looking to purchase some wedges. Without exception, almost every shop and site came in around the €100 mark per item.

From Christmas day on, again I tried all the Irish sites and still the prices remained the same. In fact, I can categorically state that one of the shops which we are highlighting here still had their prices at pre-christmas levels, and their was no mention or banners advertising ''Sale''.

In the end, on Dec. 29, I purchased 2 wedges from the UK for £110-00 plus p&p £5. Total euro price was approx.€137. Within a week, by courier the items arrived.

I do understand that Irish business is suffering, but retailers must remember that consumers too have limited money.

For the record, almost all my equipment was purchased here in the south, however with ever increasing costs, the consumer does at least have the right to source or purchase elsewhere.

neckedit

In the end, on Dec. 29, I purchased 2 wedges from the UK for £110-00 plus p&p £5. Total euro price was approx.€137. Within a week, by courier the items arrived.

Im I right in presuming you were after Vokeys or Clevelands or the like?out of pure interest what price would it of taken to leave your money in an Irish high street store?

Uncle Ben

neckedit wrote: »

In the end, on Dec. 29, I purchased 2 wedges from the UK for £110-00 plus p&p £5. Total euro price was approx.€137. Within a week, by courier the items arrived.

Im I right in presuming you were after Vokeys or Clevelands or the like?out of pure interest what price would it of taken to leave your money in an Irish high street store?

The point I made in my op, I believe, sums it up for me. There was virtually no price differential between any of the Irish retailers. There was no competition. This was not an impulse purchase where I suddenly wanted to hit the sales. I had previously sought in the 'wanted' section of this site for 2 wedges, and when that failed to materialise I went down a different channel.

I did try golf shops and apart from the prices being almost the same, the discount in each store was almost identical. And this was before the VAT increase.

If 1 shop had offered €15/€20 per club discount I can only assume I would have made the purchase.

neckedit

Uncle Ben wrote: »

neckedit wrote: »

In the end, on Dec. 29, I purchased 2 wedges from the UK for £110-00 plus p&p £5. Total euro price was approx.€137. Within a week, by courier the items arrived.

Im I right in presuming you were after Vokeys or Clevelands or the like?out of pure interest what price would it of taken to leave your money in an Irish high street store?

The point I made in my op, I believe, sums it up for me. There was virtually no price differential between any of the Irish retailers. There was no competition. This was not an impulse purchase where I suddenly wanted to hit the sales. I had previously sought in the 'wanted' section of this site for 2 wedges, and when that failed to materialise I went down a different channel.

I did try golf shops and apart from the prices being almost the same, the discount in each store was almost identical. And this was before the VAT increase.

If 1 shop had offered €15/€20 per club discount I can only assume I would have made the purchase.[/Quot

I was curious, not trying to be smart at all, just trying to gauge what what kind of discount is expected.

maverick_21

I honestly don't see why people would buy clubs off the shops here in Ireland. When looking for clubs i found Mc Guirks etc to be way more expensive than most of the online sites. A lot of these sites only charge €7 for delivery which is a bargain when you are making big savings on the overall cost.

Redzah

maverick_21 wrote: »

I honestly don't see why people would buy clubs off the shops here in Ireland. When looking for clubs i found Mc Guirks etc to be way more expensive than most of the online sites. A lot of these sites only charge €7 for delivery which is a bargain when you are making big savings on the overall cost.

Lads in fairness i have never paid the list price for any item i have ever bought in McGuirks, a 10% - 20% discount is standard without much haggling.

link_2007

Redzah wrote: »

Lads in fairness i have never paid the list price for any item i have ever bought in McGuirks, a 10% - 20% discount is standard without much haggling.

Any idea what the rough mark-up would be on a set of clubs sold by McGuirks?

maverick_21

Is it standard?I never knew this to be honest as i'm only new again to the game. Do you just send a email or call i into the shop?

TheGrump

I'm looking into buying irons at the moment, hit a few in Kinsealy the other day. I haven't quite made my mind up so I checked out some prices online and McGuirks were cheaper for the R11, diablo edge and Razr X then both golfstoreeurope.com and onlinegolf.co.uk. The G20 irons were much the same price. It can be cheaper to buy online but not always and as was said previously there is also room to haggle in McGuirks.

The other thing I noticed is that Mcguirks and Hal'penny prices are pretty much Identical even though they both have sales on. For example the burner 2.0s are on sale in both stores at €472 and the diablo edge for €494. Coincidence???????

saintastic

TheGrump wrote: »

The other thing I noticed is that Mcguirks and Hal'penny prices are pretty much Identical even though they both have sales on. For example the burner 2.0s are on sale in both stores at €472 and the diablo edge for €494. Coincidence???????

It could be manufacturer led reductions.

Out of my last four purchases, two were on golfstoreeurope, one was on ebay (tees) and one was in McGuirks. I went with price each time.

However, the problem that I have is that I worry that if I and everyone else continue to buy online, will that lessen the presence of golf shops in Ireland? As such, if I need to try on jackets, test irons/drivers/shafts, will there be less shops available?

opinionated3

Tbh what annoys me the most is the lack of left handed clubs these sites carry. Was looking to purchase the new burners or possibly preorder the new rocket balls but can't find them anywhere in left handed guise. Would prefer to use twog.com in the states but the inevitable problem of customs will rear its ugly head.....

Redzah

maverick_21 wrote: »

Is it standard?I never knew this to be honest as i'm only new again to the game. Do you just send a email or call i into the shop?

Pretty standard maverick, last time i bought in McGuirks was December, i bought a Titleist Tour bag with a list price of €199, I said i was interested but couldn't afford the list price and asked the sales rep what he could do, one check of the margins on the computer and he came back with €179. I said I had budget €160 and couldn't go much higher and dealt at €169. Nice fella and the price suited both of us. Def call into the shop to deal like this as they're quite good to deal with and will give a fair price after a conversation.

On the other post i reckon their gross margins are around the 35% mark which would suggest a cost price of the above bag of approx €129, obviously this is the cost price before overheads are applied so when adding overheads of approx €11 (complete estimate) the sales rep had another €29 leeway from the price he dealt at (€169) before he is at rock bottom cost price, the rest depends on what store policy the have for max discounts before higher approval needed etc.

pinkdoubleeagle

opinionated3 wrote: »

Tbh what annoys me the most is the lack of left handed clubs these sites carry. Was looking to purchase the new burners or possibly preorder the new rocket balls but can't find them anywhere in left handed guise. Would prefer to use twog.com in the states but the inevitable problem of customs will rear its ugly head.....

Got a voucher at Christmas and went over to Blanchardstown to buy some new vokey wedges. Not one left handed vokey in stock

maverick_21

I'm a leftie as well and find there is a very limited selection of clubs in the shops.I have looked at lefthandedgolf.com and a few others online that seem to have a decent selection.

Redzah

maverick_21 wrote: »

I'm a leftie as well and find there is a very limited selection of clubs in the shops.I have looked at lefthandedgolf.com and a few others online that seem to have a decent selection.

Seeing as ur new to the game the best recommendation i could give to you is play right handed. I'm left handed and play right handed, seeing as ur body will be getting used to swinging a club anyway just get used to it on the other side.

GreeBo

saintastic wrote: »

However, the problem that I have is that I worry that if I and everyone else continue to buy online, will that lessen the presence of golf shops in Ireland? As such, if I need to try on jackets, test irons/drivers/shafts, will there be less shops available?

Dont you get that you are supposed to pay for the privilege of testing/trying things before you buy? Thats why the shops are there and thats why they are more expensive.
If everyone used McGuirks as a fitting room and then bought online they would cease to exist, as would all other shops...and then where would you be?

Same for people who skip queues, enter bus lanes early etc.

savoryan

I was looking to get a set of Mizuno JPX 800 Pros before xmas.

They were about €570 on most sites - 5-PW (golfstoreeurop, mcguirks, halpennys)

I got an e-mail from golfstoreeurope with a 10% off this weekend only code, bringing the price down to roughly €510.

Before buying i went into American Golf just to have another look at them to make sure i was happy with the purchase. The guy came over and asked if i was ok so i just asked him how much they were in 5-PW (Price on the sticker was 4-PW) He said €490 ! There was no sale or anything.

So i was able to get "custom fit" (got to go on the Mizuno Swing DNA thing) try out loads of shaft options etc... (for which i would have gladly paid an small bit extra over the on-line stores) and still saved money.

I know the on-line stores are generally cheaper but it just goes to show - dont ALWAYS assume they are

yakkson

all see links below - all 3 of these have some really good deals and they all deliver to ireland.

www.directgolf.co.uk

www.discountgolfstore.co.uk

www.onlinegolf.co.uk

golfnut1

Guys mcguirks are having a online sale at the moment. Just enter mcguirksoffer15 for 15% off.

Dr_Colossus

golfnut1 wrote: »

Guys mcguirks are having a online sale at the moment. Just enter mcguirksoffer15 for 15% off.

That's great, pity their markup over GolfStoreEurope's prices on shoes I'm thinking of purchasing are 19.8% (Footjoy Dryjoys) and 32.9% (Footjoy AQLs)

golfnut1

Dr_Colossus wrote: »

golfnut1 wrote: »

Guys mcguirks are having a online sale at the moment. Just enter mcguirksoffer15 for 15% off.

That's great, pity their markup over GolfStoreEurope's prices on shoes I'm thinking of purchasing are 19.8% (Footjoy Dryjoys) and 32.9% (Footjoy AQLs)

I just though I'd let you all know in case you didn't already. Golfstoreeurope are good alright. Did you try halpenny?

FixdePitchmark

golfnut1 wrote: »

I just though I'd let you all know in case you didn't already. Golfstoreeurope are good alright. Did you try halpenny?

Lads ,

Want to get "a load of balls".

Titleist NXT tour. About 50 , where should i get them ?

Luckycharm

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Lads ,

Want to get "a load of balls".

Titleist NXT tour. About 50 , where should i get them ?

lakeballs.com that where I get all mine half the price

Redzah

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Lads ,

Want to get "a load of balls".

Titleist NXT tour. About 50 , where should i get them ?

You'll currently get 15% of them in McGuirks