Honesty boxes at work..

The Left Hand Of God

So I was OK with the first Jack and Jill one that had packets of sweets for two euro.

It was professionally done with a nice Jack and Jill designed box.

then came one from Bernardo's. Another professionally done one, with different sweets. T'was cool.

BUT now there are two more! One is just like someone took a drawer from their kitchen and threw some crisps and bars into it. It's called an "Honesty Box" and has a laminated page in it with child line and some stuff on it.

Has anyone else seen these?

There is a new one now that is wild yellow and claims that 5 cent per purchase is donated to "charity" and at a Euro per bag of crisps etc that leaves a lot to be taken by the supplier!

Am I wrong to be suspicious? Is this not like those people putting bin bag through the door looking for old clothes?

Daegerty

50 euros towards the pension fund each time someone utters the word "coffee"

Coriolanus

I eat all of it and throw the box in the bin when they arrive.

The Left Hand Of God

the state of it...

the groutch

report it to management, there's some serious scamming going on

Gulliver

The Left Hand Of God wrote: »

the state of it...

"Give us money for this crap or we feed it to the children"

Guill

Halo!

Dun

That is obviously someone scamming, and not even putting in anything other than a basic effort to make it look legitimate.

Capt'n Midnight

There was a guy in the US who started these, selling cakes and it was the well paid that were usually the guilty ones.

MungBean

Take what ya want and then donate your money to the ISPCC yourself. No way in hell I'd give them idiots anything. Looks like something from a primary school.

Hank_Jones

There's nothing like a warm, overpriced can of orange. :pac:

im invisible

wait, it's just a suggestion? so you're telling me i DONT have to pay???

Busy Lizzy

I was suspicious too, i work in CityWest and when the new "wild yellow" one arrived i said - thats it i'm going to question this.

So I contacted the operator who said the receipient is Crosscare - they operate the penny dinner centres in Dublin. He gave me the name of his contact at Crosscare....so i know some stuff in it is overpriced but it saves me walking to the spar down the road....and i'm a lazy busy lizzy!

CrazyRabbit

What is an Honesty Box?

CrazyRabbit

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

What is an Honesty Box?

I thought it was going ot be some kind of suggestion box but then everyone starts on about sweets

Kevin Duffy

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

What is an Honesty Box?

It's an unsupervised sale, they depend on you to be honest by paying for it while nobody's watching.

The margins on these things are too low to consider them anything but a profit-making rip-off legitimised by sticking on the name of a charidee. Set up a standing order for the charity of your choice. €10 a month will be gratefully recveived and you lose nothing to middle-men, much better all around and iirc it's tax-deductable for you, or you can donate the allowance to them too. Win-win.

stovelid

Busy Lizzy wrote: »

and i'm a lazy busy lizzy!

Lazy Lizzy would be a better user name: what you would lose in the rhyming discipline, you would more than gain from being not only descriptively correct but pleasingly alliterative also.

Just a thought.

hardCopy

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

It's an unsupervised sale, they depend on you to be honest by paying for it while nobody's watching.

The margins on these things are too low to consider them anything but a profit-making rip-off legitimised by sticking on the name of a charidee. Set up a standing order for the charity of your choice. €10 a month will be gratefully recveived and you lose nothing to middle-men, much better all around and iirc it's tax-deductable for you, or you can donate the allowance to them too. Win-win.

I don't see why it needs to be charitable at all. If it's more convenient or nicer than you can buy in the shop then go for it.

IIRC the original idea came from some guy who just sold donuts and wasn't connected to a charity at all.

mikemac

And that donut seller turned it into a successful business.

A report came out that the most dishonest people who never paid were those on top salaries. The lower paid staff almost always paid.

I suppose if you get to the top you might be more ruthless? Be an interesting project for some college student

kingtut

What's honest about making people pay a fortune for crisps or sweets :eek:

hardCopy

kingtut wrote: »

What's honest about making people pay a fortune for crisps or sweets :eek:

You don't make people pay anything.

If it's too expensive you can either

A) Buy somewhere else
or
Eat them and not pay

ejmaztec

They should put drugs in them, see how they get on.

Seachmall

hardCopy wrote: »

You don't make people pay anything.

If it's too expensive you can either

A) Buy somewhere else
or
Eat them and not pay

Or Pay what you think it's worth.

kingtut

hardCopy wrote: »

You don't make people pay anything.

If it's too expensive you can either

A) Buy somewhere else
or
Eat them and not pay

You are missing my point I'm just saying honest should not be associated with the way those things are sold. Charging a large amount and only giving a small percent to the charity is far from honest IMO.

Seachmall

kingtut wrote: »

You are missing my point I'm just saying honest should not be associated with the way those things are sold. Charging a large amount and only giving a small percent to the charity is far from honest IMO.

They're using the charity just as an incentive to make people honest and not steal. It's a bit of a low thing to use the charity like that but at least they tell you they're only giving 5%.

ejmaztec

I wonder what would happen if they came for the box and found no sweets, no money, and only this person standing next to it?

spoonface

The Left Hand Of God wrote: »

So I was OK with the first Jack and Jill one that had packets of sweets for two euro.

It was professionally done with a nice Jack and Jill designed box.

then came one from Bernardo's. Another professionally done one, with different sweets. T'was cool.

BUT now there are two more! One is just like someone took a drawer from their kitchen and threw some crisps and bars into it. It's called an "Honesty Box" and has a laminated page in it with child line and some stuff on it.

Has anyone else seen these?

There is a new one now that is wild yellow and claims that 5 cent per purchase is donated to "charity" and at a Euro per bag of crisps etc that leaves a lot to be taken by the supplier!

Am I wrong to be suspicious? Is this not like those people putting bin bag through the door looking for old clothes?

I contacted ISPCC to be sure just now and they said it's legit...

Thank you for your email and for taking the time to contact us to confirm whether this is a genuine partnership benefiting Childline. I can confirm that we do have a partnership with Halo Munchies. ISPCC Childline receives 5% of the selling price of each item.

IvyTheTerrible

A family member works someplace where they have the Jack and Jill box. People regularly take the sweets and don't put any money. Given that this is a bank, is it any wonder that they have problems with honesty?

BaZmO*

5%? Not great is it?

leeroybrown

At 5% of the sale price it makes the chuggers you meet in town seem like good value for the charities. At least in that case they're making more money than the collectors. Here the people providing the box are making a better margin AND all the theft will come straight out of the charity section.

hardCopy

5% is still better than tesco

4Sheets

BVS ltd..Rathcoole is the supplier of Honesty Box..certainly no web presence.For service PH .....Its blank!
This is a moneymaker for someone and a few cents to some charity or another which isnt named either..highly suspect stuff. ..will be avoiding

WindSock

The Left Hand Of God wrote: »

the state of it...

Ha. That looks pretty terrible alright.

Busy Lizzy

Concept is run by BVS ltd whose website is www.uchoosevending.ie. BVS Ltd operates over 200 vending machines in Dublin city and county in sites with 100 plus staff/customers. Therefore for clients that have 10-30 staff it is not possible to install a vending machine worth €4k. So the honesty box concept is a cost effective way to provide snack and beverages to a company, that wants this service, in a hassle free and convenient manner.

The charity is Crosscare, who operate the 'penny dinner centres' in Dublin. That branding has been added to the boxes this week. When your company receives a receipt from Crosscare for julys contribution, you will be pleasantly surprised.

The service which has been very well received is linked to a charity to ensure more people pay than dont pay. There is no obligation to link it to a charity. Crosscare are delighted to be the charitable partner.

Finally, this concept has taken someone off the live register and into full time employment. Sounds to me like win, win, win.

bluto63

So they raise the price so they don't have to be the charitable ones, only you.

Great :rolleyes:

starbelgrade

If I worked in a place that had an honesty box in it, I would probably nick it.

Kevin Duffy

starbelgrade wrote: »

If I worked in a place that had an honesty box in it, I would probably nick it.

Very honest of you to say so.

4Sheets

Thought about it again! Great Idea.:D

Mr. Denton

The Left Hand Of God wrote: »

the state of it...

Crap as it looks, you have to note that the thing is nearly completely empty.

On that evidence I'd wager there's a lot of heffers working in your office?