When AGS makes a mistake

stephenoneill

Hi Guy's

I know that this is the lions den so to speak , and I know I wont make
any friends with this question among the Legal Brothern but I just want a
black and white answer to a black and white question ,
So no Sring Lamb Garda trying to be cute , "Theoreticlly" if what I am sayingis true how will AGS and the State deal with it.


I know of a situation with the Police where they are all over this guy
they THINK he has(at the very least)knowledge about a Gang Land Murder
and for the last five years they have him in an under cover Garda bubble.

They have got him a job in another county away from his friends and family
so the people in the house that he lives in are all under cover Garda,
the place he works at, a good number of people are under cover Police
incuding his Boss,
And he is paying CHILD SUPPORT an under cover Garda (true)
Any car he has had in the past five years he has bought
from under cover Police.

I wont say this guy's name because he has NO CLUE of the situation
he is in but his initiales are [SNIPPED]
Now lets not be mean (GARDA) , IF what I am saying is true (it is) what would happen , is there Presedence of this in Irish law in the passed
that you guy's know of , or would this be the mother and father of all
Garda mess ups.

Another guy in the same case they THINK he has knowledge about
the same murder , and have islolated him (I a different way)
they have burned all bridges in his life and have left him pretty
much with no one ,no job , nothing.
They have moved in to the houses to the left and to the right
of his , have drilled though the walls ,and have spent the last five
years subjecting him to the worst Psychological "Torcher" you could
imagine, and controle everything down to how much sleep he
gets at night , and not just him but his mother also.

Now again "be nice" , IF what I am saying is true (it is) and these
two guy's were 100% cleared how ( in your opinion ) would the State
correct it, would it close ranks lie and deny "where's your proof" ,
would it deal with it in secret ,or other .

No Bashers ,I don't want a cyber kicking, I don't want to be Rustled
out of town Vagas style, I just want to know (IF) what I am saying
is true how do "you think" the State would deal with it.

Thank You

Tom Young

Is there a question here or just a polemic?

I have snipped data from the above and am watching this thread closely. I am inclined to just shut it down as I don't believe it serves any useful purpose.

OP you might like to convince me otherwise?

Reloc8

If they were prosecuted and found not guilty by direction of the trial judge, or in circumstances where it was clear that the prosecution case was founded on lies, they would be entitled to apply for their legal costs, if not legally aided.

If they were convicted in circumstances later found to constitute a miscarriage of justice they would be entitled to compensation.

If they could prove that they were the subject of malicious life destroying behaviour of the type you describe they would be entitled to compensation.

Havn't you started the same thread in Conspiracy Theories ?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=72801786

/thread.

murrayp4

stephenoneill wrote: »

Hi Guy's

I know that this is the lions den so to speak , and I know I wont make
any friends with this question among the Legal Brothern but I just want a
black and white answer to a black and white question ,
So no Sring Lamb Garda trying to be cute , "Theoreticlly" if what I am sayingis true how will AGS and the State deal with it.


I know of a situation with the Police where they are all over this guy
they THINK he has(at the very least)knowledge about a Gang Land Murder
and for the last five years they have him in an under cover Garda bubble.

They have got him a job in another county away from his friends and family
so the people in the house that he lives in are all under cover Garda,
the place he works at, a good number of people are under cover Police
incuding his Boss,
And he is paying CHILD SUPPORT an under cover Garda (true)
Any car he has had in the past five years he has bought
from under cover Police.

I wont say this guy's name because he has NO CLUE of the situation
he is in but his initiales are [SNIPPED]
Now lets not be mean (GARDA) , IF what I am saying is true (it is) what would happen , is there Presedence of this in Irish law in the passed
that you guy's know of , or would this be the mother and father of all
Garda mess ups.

Another guy in the same case they THINK he has knowledge about
the same murder , and have islolated him (I a different way)
they have burned all bridges in his life and have left him pretty
much with no one ,no job , nothing.
They have moved in to the houses to the left and to the right
of his , have drilled though the walls ,and have spent the last five
years subjecting him to the worst Psychological "Torcher" you could
imagine, and controle everything down to how much sleep he
gets at night , and not just him but his mother also.

Now again "be nice" , IF what I am saying is true (it is) and these
two guy's were 100% cleared how ( in your opinion ) would the State
correct it, would it close ranks lie and deny "where's your proof" ,
would it deal with it in secret ,or other .

No Bashers ,I don't want a cyber kicking, I don't want to be Rustled
out of town Vagas style, I just want to know (IF) what I am saying
is true how do "you think" the State would deal with it.

Thank You

What?

Delancey

Just fried my brain trying to understand the OP .

blueythebear

stephenoneill wrote: »

Hi Guy's

I know of a situation with the Police where they are all over this guy
they THINK he has(at the very least)knowledge about a Gang Land Murder
and for the last five years they have him in an under cover Garda bubble.

They have got him a job in another county away from his friends and family so the people in the house that he lives in are all under cover Garda, the place he works at, a good number of people are under cover Police incuding his Boss, And he is paying CHILD SUPPORT an under cover Garda (true) Any car he has had in the past five years he has bought
from under cover Police.

I wont say this guy's name because he has NO CLUE of the situation
he is in but his initiales are [SNIPPED]

Are you saying that the Garda have spent 5 years trying to ascertain whether someone has some information on a murder and in doing so, have assigned at least ten undercover Gardaí on a FULL TIME basis including inserting themselves completely into the life of this one guy (including moving to another country and living in the same house) in order to ascertain whether or not he has this information? And he is completely unaware of this happening?

That is true dedication to fighting crime. Each of those Gardaí should simultaneously given medals for dedication to duty and fired for enormous waste of resources.

If you feel that this is true, why not go to the papers. I for one, would be interested to read this type of story! Or else, why not let this guy know the truth if this is the case?

angelfire9

Am I the only one who has absolutely NO CLUE what the OP was asking?

stephenoneill

Reloc8, Thanks for your helpful reply ,
The rest of you guy's I think know more then
you are letting on,
Everyone else keep a look out in the Media
for this case.

PS ,I think it's looking like the State
run for the hills , lie and deny

Grolschevik

For some reason this reminds me of the guy who repeatedly wrote to all the national media outlets a few years ago, saying that "every time he went into town he was attacked" and that he, personally, had killed "dozens of the people" who had attacked him, and that he couldn't understand why nothing was being done and that he'd written to the Minister for Justice and the Garda Commissioner (etc) to investigate why he was being targeted, but that they were ignoring him and it was a great big conspiracy.

PLease tell me that someone else remembers this!

Delancey

Grolschevik wrote: »

PLease tell me that someone else remembers this!

Can't say I do but I can say the OP has posted these long-winded and unitelligible conspiracy ramblings on boards before.

blueythebear

stephenoneill wrote: »

Reloc8, Thanks for your helpful reply ,
The rest of you guy's I think know more then
you are letting on,
Everyone else keep a look out in the Media
for this case.

PS ,I think it's looking like the State
run for the hills , lie and deny

I know a guy who had a similar complaint to yours. He claimed that the Gardaí were constantly following him and tracking him using GPS technology. THey made his life a misery and he just wanted to be left alone as he had no involvement in crime. Again, they thought he knew something about certain individuals involved in crime. It got to a point where he climbed something he shouldn't have in an effort to get away from his tormentors.

Unsurprisingly enough, there was no evidence whatsoever. GPS technology he said had been inserted into his car was merely a fuse meaning his rear lights stopped working. When contacted, the Gardai knew nothing of this individual. He persisted with his claims, his behaviour became more erratic and he became obsessed with thoughts that the Gardaí were following him up to and including acosting people "following him" (i.e. walking on the same street as him).

He was eventually committed to an institution that tried to address his issues. This particular matter sounds pretty similar.

Grolschevik

Delancey wrote: »

Can't say I do but I can say the OP has posted these long-winded and unitelligible conspiracy ramblings on boards before.

I used to have a copy of the letter on file. I must see if I can dig it out.

Corkblowin

From what I could follow it sounds like a cross between 'The Truman Show' and 'Enemy of the State'. Maybe he's writing a screenplay?

Zambia

stephenoneill wrote: »

They have got him a job in another county away from his friends and family
so the people in the house that he lives in are all under cover Garda,
the place he works at, a good number of people are under cover Police
incuding his Boss,
And he is paying CHILD SUPPORT an under cover Garda (true)
Any car he has had in the past five years he has bought
from under cover Police.

Is this person an Undercover garda?

stephenoneill wrote: »

Another guy in the same case they THINK he has knowledge about
the same murder , and have islolated him (I a different way)
they have burned all bridges in his life and have left him pretty
much with no one ,no job , nothing.
They have moved in to the houses to the left and to the right
of his , have drilled though the walls ,and have spent the last five
years subjecting him to the worst Psychological "Torcher" you could
imagine, and controle everything down to how much sleep he
gets at night , and not just him but his mother also.

Is his mother a undercover Garda as well? As people in the house that he lives in are all under cover Garda,

You should report all this with names included to the Garda Ombudsman.

evercloserunion

To answer your question OP, a fry-up in the morning will do wonders for that hangover.

Guy:Incognito

Wait, does this mean I'm an undercover Garda too? Excellent, the dole was getting tiresome.

I call shenanigans.



OP has a self-realising vision of this event. Anyone who helps him is cool and anyone who doesn't is part of the conspiracy. Lock her up lads, this voyage always ends badly.

Tom Young

Closed.