Butlers Lane Cork

kilsmum

Hello,

Trying to trace Butlers Lane in Cork (I think).

Got it from a marriage cert of my great grandfather's sister and she got married in St. Finbarrs South church in Dunbar Street, Cork 1n 1911.

I tried the historic OSI map for Cork and the old lanes in the city but no joy.

Could anyone please help me on this one??

Also this lady's occupation was Dealer - would that be associated with owning a shop maybe?

Thanks in advance yet again.......

Kilsmum:)

P. Breathnach

I looked at a few things, and couldn't find anything that looked relevant to Cork. There are references to Butler's Lane in Doneraile and in Youghal (and a few other places further away from Cork).

It is possible that something was misheard, or the address given was an informal local name, and the official name was different.

Did you look for her in the 1911 Census?

Owen

You could contact Kieran McCarthy - he's a Cork Historian, and a current City Councillor. He's gifted with stuff like this.

davidjcie

Hi
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/
The Church records for the South Parish are available on the aboe web site.
Cork No. 5 Urban (part of) is most likely the DED that covers a lot of that area in the census 1911
David

kilsmum

Thanks for all the replies - its very much appreciated.

Cant find this lady in the 1911 census in Cork. She was living in Friars Walk with her widowed mother in 1901 and (waiting on a death cert from the GRO) her mother died in 1910 and it looks like they vacated the house after her death or maybe Ellen moved before then Im not sure.

I reckon she didn't move too far away because she came back to the church where her parents were married and she was baptised.

PaintDoctor thanks for your suggestion about Kieran McCarthy I have seen his articles on Cork in the past and he appears to be well informed.

Its also quite possible the name of the Lane was misheard or misspelled when it was originally recorded.

David - looked in all the Cork DEDs and cant find the lane at all

Thanks again for all your help I really appreciate it.

Kilsmum

P. Breathnach

Have you considered Buckley's Lane as a possibility?

CeannRua

You could try www.corkpastandpresent.ie. There are old maps of the city on there. Also, a list of old street names. I had a quick look and couldn't see Butler's Lane. There is something with Bullen in the title though... The other thing that is on this website are old street directories. If you can track down likely street names, you might find her this way when she's a business owner. The sreet directories might tell you more about the business as well. You could also scan the portion of the marriage cert with address to see if anyone can read it for you.

kilsmum

P. Breathnach - my Ellen is O'Brien - and should have been around 37/40 in 1911.

Ceann Rua I already looked in Cork Past and Present and couldn't find it.

The cert was typed because I got it in the Births Deaths and Marriages office in Adelaide Street. Maybe the person who transcribed it from the register made a mistake I don't know.

This family have proved very elusive! Couldn't find her brother William in the 1901 census. Found Ellen in the 1901 census but cant find her in 1911 - they must have been form shy!!

Thanks very much for all your input I really appreciate it

Kilsmum

davidjcie

Its very likely the transcribing is wrong. I had an Olney in my past and it was transcribed as O'Leary. The writing can be very hard to read.
My father's family lived in Frairs Walk around the same period.

kilsmum

David I saw your Olneys the other day in the Archives office in Great William O'Brien Street!!

I was looking at the rental books for the houses in Friars Walk where they had recorded observations on the houses (someone from the Corporation visited the houses and amended the records if a tenant had moved on). Its an unusual surname and I remember you mentioned it in a previous post. I was trying to find out for certain if my great grandfather's family actually lived there in 1911 or not. The book I was looking in covered 1911 up to 1915. From what I could work out the O'Brien's lived there in 1911 for a period and then left so its possible they left before the census - that's the only plausible explanation I can think of at this stage.

Kilsmum:)

davidjcie

kilsmum wrote: »

David I saw your Olneys the other day in the Archives office in Great William O'Brien Street!!

I was looking at the rental books for the houses in Friars Walk where they had recorded observations on the houses (someone from the Corporation visited the houses and amended the records if a tenant had moved on). Its an unusual surname and I remember you mentioned it in a previous post.

Thanks for the above I didnt know such books existed - I'll have to go and have a look
David

kilsmum

Peter was the guy I was dealing with - a Dub - ask for the rates and evaluation books for Friars Walk for 1911/15 - you have to book a slot but waiting time is short enough - let me know how you get on