play that funky music white boy

digme

The Black Irish of Montserrat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QHYFXDGf4Y

Irish people exiled by Cromwell and African slaves arrived on Montserrat at about the same time.
They even have irish accents hahaha.

Micky Dolenz

A mate of mine is Algerian, he give me a most interesting documentary on the relationship between our two countries. I must dig it out. It was made by an Irish man. It showed the movement of Irish slaves to Africa.

To this day they have red heads in Algerian that are descendants of those Irish slaves.

Son Of A Vidic

"Is it cos I is Irish?"

digme

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

A mate of mine is Algerian, he give me a most interesting documentary on the relationship between our two countries. I must dig it out. It was made by an Irish man. It showed the movement of Irish slaves to Africa.

To this day they have red heads in Algerian that are descendants of those Irish slaves.

Interesting.I heard they were originally English protestants in Baltimore taken away by Algerian
pirates for some local Irish guy who wanted them gone from the area?
Not sure if that's true or not.

orourkeda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTkV-eoZsTE

JerryHandbag

Fascinating listening to that accent, they way he says "on account of". That homie definitely comes from West Limerick stock

biko

Good find OP.
Must go visit now

pickarooney

digme wrote: »

Interesting.I heard they were originally English protestants in Baltimore taken away by Algerian
pirates for some local Irish guy who wanted them gone from the area?
Not sure if that's true or not.

I'd lay money the red-headed Kabyles have strictly nothing in common genetically with the Irish.

jme2010

I always thought that song was racist.

chin_grin

jme2010 wrote: »

I always thought that song was racist.

Get out. :pac:

Duckworth_Luas

digme wrote: »

Interesting.I heard they were originally English protestants in Baltimore taken away by Algerian
pirates for some local Irish guy who wanted them gone from the area?
Not sure if that's true or not.

Barbary pirates would attack European and American ships to capture slaves. Occasionally they would raid coastal towns. Besides Ireland they even went as far as Iceland. The slaves would be forced to convert to Islam. Their families, if they could afford it, could pay a ransom to get the enslaved person back. The US government eventually got pi$$ed and bombed the hell out of Tripoli and the attacks stopped.

The idea that "some local Irish guy" hired the pirates to enslave the people of Baltimore is nonsense.

jme2010

chin_grin wrote: »

Get out. :pac:

*Gets coat*

Iomega Man

"100's of people from Cork,Kilkenny and Drogheda...."

Revisionism at its best!

Try 30-50,000

Latchy

I remember watching a tv documentary about Irish UN contingent in the Lebanon and this young arab girl who grew up around them had picked up the cutest Irish accent to .

Caraville

Not as strong, but the accents in Newfoundland have Irish twangs to them as well. Kinda funny to listen to!

Duckworth_Luas

Latchy wrote: »

I remember watching a tv documentary about Irish UN contingent in the Lebanon and this young arab girl who grew up around them had picked up the cutest Irish accent to .

I was watching France 24 at some ungodly hour one night. Some French military expert was on talking about how NATO troops had got into an unnecessary firefight in Afghanistan. He said that they could learn a lot from the Irish experience in Lebanon where the Irish guys always talked themselves out of sticky situations ("come on now lads, would ye put the guns away, there's no need for this type of thing at all, at all") instead of shooting the place up.

Chairman Meow

Lucky bastards. I bet the weather in Montserrat is a million times better than this dump

Micky Dolenz

Interesting info here on a related subject.

Micky Dolenz

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

A mate of mine is Algerian, he give me a most interesting documentary on the relationship between our two countries. I must dig it out. It was made by an Irish man. It showed the movement of Irish slaves to Africa.

To this day they have red heads in Algerian that are descendants of those Irish slaves.

And here it is. http://www.conamara.org/atlantean.htm

Well worth the watch, gives great insight into a lot of our sea faring traditions along with music, culture etc.

Latchy

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

I was watching France 24 at some ungodly hour one night. Some French military expert was on talking about how NATO troops had got into an unnecessary firefight in Afghanistan. He said that they could learn a lot from the Irish experience in Lebanon where the Irish guys always talked themselves out of sticky situations ("come on now lads, would ye put the guns away, there's no need for this type of thing at all, at all") instead of shooting the place up.

That talk out of tricky situations would have taken days, weeks if not months to achieve and who's going to argue with a bunch of charming Irishmen anyway ? The Irish UN were very popular over there but some warring factions just see the blue UN berat and don't care for the nationality wearing it regardless of where they came from .

Nodin

Chairman Meow wrote: »

Lucky bastards. I bet the weather in Montserrat is a million times better than this dump

Yes, and its got this lovely big explody mountain that looks deadly at night.

Badgermonkey

Chairman Meow wrote: »

Lucky bastards. I bet the weather in Montserrat is a million times better than this dump

Lucky bastards?

The islands capital was destroyed by a volcanic eruption in 1995, rendering half the landmass uninhabitable to this day.

Duckworth_Luas

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

And here it is. http://www.conamara.org/atlantean.htm

Well worth the watch, gives great insight into a lot of our sea faring traditions along with music, culture etc.

I was going to post about Atlantean but don't recall any slavery connection. I saw it once back in the 1980s. I recall that conventional scholars at the time were very negative towards Bob Quinn's thesis. It would be interesting to see if any of his ideas have now been accepted or totally rejected.

WASP0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSNnuiT0qek

Micky Dolenz

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

I was going to post about Atlantean but don't recall any slavery connection. I saw it once back in the 1980s. I recall that conventional scholars at the time were very negative towards Bob Quinn's thesis. It would be interesting to see if any of his ideas have now been accepted or totally rejected.

Yeah, The slavery part may have been in the conversation I had with the guy who gave it to me.

I did hear there was controversy about his thesis all right but a lot of what is said in the doc makes sense and he does go a long way to back them up.

Duckworth_Luas

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Yeah, The slavery part may have been in the conversation I had with the guy who gave it to me.

I did hear there was controversy about his thesis all right but a lot of what is said in the doc makes sense and he does go a long way to back them up.

I was only about 10 when I saw it but was fascinated. I looked it up some years ago and maybe I came across your link.

I found the whole video here. I watched the first 5 mins, will leave the rest for tonight.

Micky Dolenz

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

I was only about 10 when I saw it but was fascinated. I looked it up some years ago and maybe I came across your link.

I found the whole video here. I watched the first 5 mins, will leave the rest for tonight.

I shall watch it also. I only have it on VHS and don't have access to a museum :pac:

df1985

st patricks day is an official public holiday in monsserat same as it is here.

Duckworth_Luas

df1985 wrote: »

st patricks day is an official public holiday in monsserat same as it is here.

Isn't that because they are celebrating a slave revolt against their Irish/British slave masters who were all drunk on the day?

St Patrick's Day is a public holiday in Newfoundland for the same reasons it is here though.

mconigol

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

I shall watch it also. I only have it on VHS and don't have access to a museum :pac:

We still have a vhs player in my sitting room at home under the telly! Not sure why. It's always plugged in too...just in case there's a mini comet strike and we end up back in the 90's I suppose!

Latchy

mconigol wrote: »

We still have a vhs player in my sitting room at home under the telly! Not sure why. It's always plugged in too...just in case there's a mini comet strike and we end up back in the 90's I suppose!

I have a Sony DVD/Video Player which is handy for that to .

mconigol

Latchy wrote: »

I have a Sony DVD/Video Player which is handy for that to .

That will be a collectors item someday!