Price of Service

Lex Luthor

got quoted a price of €180 for the 90,000km service of the wifes Verso 2.0 D4D. The price is for a nixer but from a main dealer mechanic and includes oil/oil filter/air filter & fuel filter. How does that sound?

I think at this stage I will get the brake fluid change as the car is 6yrs old and hasn't had it done yet. Also the manual suggests replacing the gear box fluid aswell at 90,000km...what do ye think?

Sounds really expensive for a nixer, he's getting at least €100 into the hand after buying the oil and parts. No way would I pay that for a nixer.

cadaliac

What oil is he using? Fully or semi synthetic? Tbh, it seems like a lot alright. parts and oil should come to about €80 ~ €100 max.
Its a 20 minute job if you have the garage and tools at your disposal.

cadaliac

cadaliac wrote: »

...........Its a 20 minute job if you have the garage and tools at your disposal.

He's hardly doing it at work though

Lex Luthor

cadaliac wrote: »

What oil is he using? Fully or semi synthetic? Tbh, it seems like a lot alright. parts and oil should come to about €80 ~ €100 max.
Its a 20 minute job if you have the garage and tools at your disposal.

I would say he will be using the oil recommended for the car. Not sure what the manual specifies

I'd do it myself only this poxy weather I cant get a dry day.

Have never done a fuel filter though...any idea whats involved?

Lex Luthor

Lex Luthor wrote: »

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I'd do it myself only this poxy weather I cant get a dry day...............

I'd sooner pay a garage than give someone €180 into their hand for doing it. A dry day will come soon enough anyway

Nissan doctor

If the price doesn't include the gear oil and brake fluid then your not even getting the required service, your only getting an engine service for that.
Is your auto or manual?

We'd be charing near the same for any customer off the street so whoever is doing the nixer isn't doing you any favours.

The timing belt is also due every 5 years regardless of kms/mileage,

The 90k service doesn't require a fuel filter but thats assuming the car has been serviced properly up untill now, which given that it has never had the brake fluid changed...it hasn't. The fuel filter is due every 60k or 5 years so you'll need to work out when i was changed last.

The coolant on that car should be changed every 60k or 3 years, so likely twice over due now.

Brake fluid is every 2 years regardless of mileage so thats 3 times overdue.

Airfilter is every 45k so is due.


So the full service requirements of your car at the current age and mileage are:

Oil and filter,
Air filter,
Brake fluid change(overdue),
Coolant change(overdue),
Timing belt change(overdue),
Transmission oil change(although i'd suspect thats only for auto boxes),
Fuel filter? depends when it was changed last.

Those are in addition to the normal full vehicle inspection that would be included in a service price.

cadaliac

RoverJames wrote: »

He's hardly doing it at work though

Hmm, true, I didn't think of that. I just saw the Toyota garage in the OP and assumed.
Anyway, I recon that at least 50% if Irish cars NEVER had a brake fluid change.

Plug

The mechanic probably got genuine parts, they are quite expensive from Toyota even with a trade discount compared to spurious parts.

Lex Luthor

just dug out the service book and the brake fluid was done 2yrs ago at 60k kms.

No mention of coolant being done so cant be sure. Manual has coolant change at 150,000km so long way off that

Also timing belt is down for 150,000km so way off that aswell

Car is a manual

Nonoperational

Nissan doctor wrote: »

If the price doesn't include the gear oil and brake fluid then your not even getting the required service, your only getting an engine service for that.
Is your auto or manual?

We'd be charing near the same for any customer off the street so whoever is doing the nixer isn't doing you any favours.

The timing belt is also due every 5 years regardless of kms/mileage,

The 90k service doesn't require a fuel filter but thats assuming the car has been serviced properly up untill now, which given that it has never had the brake fluid changed...it hasn't. The fuel filter is due every 60k or 5 years so you'll need to work out when i was changed last.

The coolant on that car should be changed every 60k or 3 years, so likely twice over due now.

Brake fluid is every 2 years regardless of mileage so thats 3 times overdue.

Airfilter is every 45k so is due.


So the full service requirements of your car at the current age and mileage are:

Oil and filter,
Air filter,
Brake fluid change(overdue),
Coolant change(overdue),
Timing belt change(overdue),
Transmission oil change(although i'd suspect thats only for auto boxes),
Fuel filter? depends when it was changed last.

Those are in addition to the normal full vehicle inspection that would be included in a service price.

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Nissan doctor

Lex Luthor wrote: »

just dug out the service book and the brake fluid was done 2yrs ago at 60k kms.

No mention of coolant being done so cant be sure. Manual has coolant change at 150,000km so long way off that

Also timing belt is down for 150,000km so way off that aswell

Car is a manual

Your reading a 6 year old service book though, things will have been updated as the cars get older and faults come to light, numerous head gasket issues with your engine for example, the likely reason for the coolant interval being lowered.

Either way, ALL service items are time dependant as well as mileage.

So our brake fluid is due every 2 years, coolant every 3 years and timing belt every 5 years.

Lex Luthor

Nissan doctor wrote: »

Your reading a 6 year old service book though, things will have been updated as the cars get older and faults come to light, numerous head gasket issues with your engine for example, the likely reason for the coolant interval being lowered.

Either way, ALL service items are time dependant as well as mileage.

So our brake fluid is due every 2 years, coolant every 3 years and timing belt every 5 years.

you involved with Nissan or Toyotas?

Just spoke with the main dealer on the phone and they mentioned nothing about the timing belt needing to be done.

Nissan doctor

Lex Luthor wrote: »

you involved with Nissan or Toyotas?

Just spoke with the main dealer on the phone and they mentioned nothing about the timing belt needing to be done.

I'm involved in every type of car.

Chances are you were speaking to the service manager, who, in many cases, knows as much about servicing a car as the salesman.

Nobody is saying you have to have them changed, its your car, but the scheduals I posted above are from a couple of the most up to date service schedual manuals that any decent mechanic will use as referance.

Most people in Ireland just get the basic engine service done every now and again anyway so you'll be far from unusual in that regard.

gk5000

cadaliac wrote: »

Hmm, true, I didn't think of that. I just saw the Toyota garage in the OP and assumed.
Anyway, I recon that at least 50% if Irish cars NEVER had a brake fluid change.

Yep,
- But is this brake fluid change really necessary and how often?
- And if it's important then why does the NCT not check?
- Are there any accidents attributed to it? or statistics on this?

Nissan doctor

gk5000 wrote: »

Yep,
- But is this brake fluid change really necessary and how often?
- And if it's important then why does the NCT not check?
- Are there any accidents attributed to it? or statistics on this?

If you test the brake fluid of a 2 year old car, chances are, it will be fine so to an extent, yes, its arse covering by the manufacturers. But if you test cars 4/5 year old plus(and I do every day) you will find that most are showing a lowering of the boiling point of the fluid.

It costs max €40 to change in an indy garage and if a car pulls out in front of you, you have nothing to rely on but brakes, tyres and suspension. So why would you take short cuts with any of them?