Haggling...

HellFireClub

Just watching this thing on RTE1 here, The Consumer Show... Apparently we should all be haggling now for any retail stuff we want to buy...

Personally I will never haggle, I'm not a scabby cúnt from Cavan, if I want to buy it I'll pay the asking price for it, if I want it cheaper, I'll go to Dunnes!

7sr2z3fely84g5

Adverts..

ScumLord

Haggling with the till operator at a discount store would be as useful as haggling with the wall, there's nothing they or pretty much anyone in the store can do about the price.

The computers wouldn't allow it for a start and would get extremely pissed off if everything started coming in at weird prices. In fact I don't think the till would accept anything other than the price off the barcode. The person is only there to smile at you.

mikemac

Is Eddie Hobbs involved in this show?

WindSock

Always ask them to throw in a gourd.

policarp

It's not a very nice sounding word.
So that's probably why I don't do it often enough.

m.j.w

i wouldnt have the guts to do this but seen someone do it in next and they got a discount after the manager was called over so it can be done

HellFireClub

mikemac wrote: »

Is Eddie Hobbs involved in this show?

Yes, also known by his other title: Eddie "Brendan Investments, let's all invest in Property" Hobbs...

--LOS--

What kind of stuff could we haggle for?? maybe small privately owned shops but certainly not the majority of high street stores.

kmart6

Guill wrote: »

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Chuck Stone

I'll haggle for certain things, yes.

7sr2z3fely84g5

m.j.w wrote: »

i wouldnt have the guts to do this but seen someone do it in next and they got a discount after the manager was called over so it can be done

Go on adverts and you can see the masters at work.

Daegerty

Not really in shops though, unless its second hand stuff or if i'm buying a lot of stuff "will you throw in this as well" with a bigger purchase

at car boot sales always. if something is cheap, try to get it cheaper. on ebay if there is a 'best offer' i will always use that even if tis only to save 50c

J. Marston

Are Cavan people really that bad?

HellFireClub

I always thought hagglers were people with a really mean streak in them.

Mr. Incognito

I thought this was some new sexual term about riding grannies I was unaware of.

Guess that's still a Rooney then.

--LOS--

J. Marston wrote: »

Are Cavan people really that bad?

my god yes! any that I've known are, they are serial sandwich packers for starters..

mikemac

A few Cavan people in our office

The stereotypes of them being tight are true, they got that reputation for a reason

Ugh. One time when I was working in a shop, a man insisted he should get a discount and was so aggressive about it, refusing to buy or leave, holding up the whole queue and refusing to listen to me that as soon as I wasn't the only employee in the shop I had to go to the back room and cry. And I'm not the crying type.

If you're at a car boot sale, or a small independent business where you're buying a lot and you know you're talking to the owner/manager, or even somewhere where you're buying an usually large amount, you might as well go ahead and try it. But when you're in a store where the employee is clearly not authorized to go changing around prices, and explains this to you, get over yourself. I used to know someone who got discounts everywhere he went, and I'd say half the time it was because whoever was in the shop just wanted him off their back. People need to realise when they're not in a Turkish market IMO. There's a time and a place.

Redhairedguy

Saved €140 on a gym membership yesterday when I decided to haggle for shíts and giggles.

Obviously they were desperate for members.

Daegerty

HellFireClub wrote: »

Personally I will never haggle, I'm not a scabby cúnt from Cavan

Your superiority complex must be costing you thousands a year from this alone

HellFireClub

true-or-false wrote: »

Ugh. One time when I was working in a shop, a man insisted he should get a discount and was so aggressive about it, refusing to buy or leave, holding up the whole queue and refusing to listen to me that as soon as I wasn't the only employee in the shop I had to go to the back room and cry. And I'm not the crying type.

If you're at a car boot sale, or a small independent business where you're buying a lot and you know you're talking to the owner/manager, or even somewhere where you're buying an usually large amount, you might as well go ahead and try it. But when you're in a store where the employee is clearly not authorized to go changing around prices, and explains this to you, get over yourself. I used to know someone who got discounts everywhere he went, and I'd say half the time it was because whoever was in the shop just wanted him off their back. People need to realise when they're not in a Turkish market IMO. There's a time and a place.

+1, haggling works if you are prepared to make an absolute nuisence out of yourself. I'd be afraid that someone could get fired if they were unfairly pressured into giving into someone with a well hardened neck for haggling, too much off just to get them out of the store...

HellFireClub

Daegerty wrote: »

Your superiority complex must be costing you thousands a year from this alone

I'd rather the cost of that than for anyone to think I was from Cavan.

xsiborg

i wouldnt haggle as such, i often buy second hand laptops and i have a good idea of how much the hardware is worth, no interest in the software, i'll make one offer and its either a yay or i walk away.

on the subject of the haggling on that show? that was pure set up in the Louis Copeland store, cringeworthy acting, and no small coincidence that RTE are one of their best customers for the likes of Kenny and Turbidy.

prinz

Depends on the place, as in the Consumer Show piece have got money off and stuff thrown in when I got my wedding outfit, money off, tie thrown in and two sets of cufflinks thrown in. Sweet. I won't feel bad or stingy because I said 'the price was a bit steep but I really liked it, pity'.... cue the offers from them which I gladly accepted. I'd never suggest a price to them first.

I have also gotten a discount for opting to take a display item in an electronics shop, but that was because they didn't have any of the items in stock so they asked me to take the display item. I said I would, at a discount. No problems, discount given.

As with anything else there is a time and a place. 99% of the time it wouldn't even cross my mind, never mind actually haggling.

7sr2z3fely84g5

Sales are on every week now,seems pointless to haggle.

prinz

xsiborg wrote: »

on the subject of the haggling on that show? that was pure set up in the Louis Copeland store, cringeworthy acting, and no small coincidence that RTE are one of their best customers for the likes of Kenny and Turbidy.

Not much of a set-up seeing as how he ended up getting a better deal elsewhere and didn't take the Louis Copeland deal.

krudler

Haggling over something like a car or tv or something big is acceptable, haggling over a 10 quid dvd or something is fcuking stupid. Used to hate working farmers day in retail, "now will ye do me a dale and this best of Queen boxset? tis 20 pounds (euro really) but shure we'll call it two shape and a night with me eldesht daughter instead, dale? *shpits in hand*

get away from me you muck savage!

doctor evil

Time and a place for haggling.

Those that haggle aggressively over the price of a newspaper deserve a slap.

prinz

HellFireClub wrote: »

+1, haggling works if you are prepared to make an absolute nuisence out of yourself. I'd be afraid that someone could get fired if they were unfairly pressured into giving into someone with a well hardened neck for haggling, too much off just to get them out of the store...

I think you're confusing politely asking if there is a better offer on the cards when you are spending a big amount in a shop with just being an ignorant awkward bollix. Different things.

HellFireClub

prinz wrote: »

I think you're confusing politely asking if there is a better offer on the cards when you are spending a big amount in a shop with just being an ignorant awkward bollix. Different things.

The way I see it is if there was a better offer on the cards, the price tag would have a lower price on it, especially in these times...

Bbbbolger

Some places expect to be haggled. Some Electrical Appliance stores will give their employees a certain percentage they're allowed knock off certain big items. It's the same with things like cars and suits. They expect people to haggle these items but they all have a limit which they won't go below.

prinz

HellFireClub wrote: »

The way I see it is if there was a better offer on the cards, the price tag would have a lower price on it, especially in these times...

...a lot of the time you'd be very wrong. A lot of places, again the ones I know best would be tailors and electronics stores, give certain members of staff the discretionary power to agree a discount on the spot. If you are willing to pay it fair enough, but when that facility exists it would be stupid not to avail of it for fear of being called scabby or from Cavan.

fatalll

You should haggle
Was talking with a guy that owned a shop years ago and he said he always haggles in shops..
usually you can get up to 10% off on certain things like
clothes, shoes, sports goods, electronic equipment etc

especially now they want the business...
I haggled a few weeks back and saved myself 300...

I always haggle for anything over 50 as a rule...whats the worst that can happen....they will say no sorry....

HellFireClub

prinz wrote: »

...a lot of the time you'd be very wrong. A lot of places, again the ones I know best would be tailors and electronics stores, give certain members of staff the discretionary power to agree a discount on the spot. If you are willing to pay it fair enough, but when that facility exists it would be stupid not to avail of it for fear of being called scabby or from Cavan.

Just wouldn't have the neck... I expect value and I shop around for value, I won't haggle, if I think I can get it for cheaper elsewhere, I'll just walk out of the shop and buy it where I know it is cheaper and therefore better value...

solerina

We were checking out of Jurys inn after a rather lively hen nite..it was cheap as chips 3 to a room, so 30 euro each...one of the girls decided to haggle for the laugh and got 20 euro off...I was stunned and impressed at the same time !!!

lesserspottedchloe

Reminds me of the time my Dad was waiting in line at a register in a DIY store when up marches this guy and slaps a power drill on the counter asking:

''how much is dat boss?''

''that particular model is 49.99 sir''

''I'll give ya a tenner fer it''

He then slapped then tenner on the counter and made his way to the nearest exit :pac:

robman60

I think haggling is only appropriate if done with a street vendor. Haggling in any other shop (unless it's family owned, and not a supermarket eg. DIY shop) is inappropriate and it won't get you anywhere anyway, so is best avoided unless you don't mind making a scene!

Trhiggy83

Raquel Cold Sugarcoat wrote: »

Go on adverts and you can see the masters at work.

Those lads on adverts wreck my head haggling thats why i dont advertise anything on it anymore. They constantly try to undermine the product in order for you to drop the price. I got rightly pi$$ed off the last day i had something up, the bidder said whats the best you can do considering i can buy it elsewhere for this price. They are always at it, i didnt sell it in the end. Just could not be bothered

Daegerty

In big places haggling is still worth a go if the staff are on commision. the only way to find out if you can get something cheaper is to try it

prinz

HellFireClub wrote: »

Just wouldn't have the neck... I expect value and I shop around for value, I won't haggle, if I think I can get it for cheaper elsewhere, I'll just walk out of the shop and buy it where I know it is cheaper and therefore better value...

Or you could just get it cheaper in the shop you're in.

Wibbs

It depends. I'll certainly aim to strike a bargain, but one which is within reason. I don't do stupidly low ball offers that some do. Adverts can be an example of that:

*Seller* For Sale Ferrari 308 mint. 25K NO swaps.

*Poster A* I'll give you 500 quid for it.

*seller* eh no, it's a classic Ferrari you fcuking numpty

*Poster B* I'll swap it for an Iphone 4.

*Seller* NO swaps can't you read

*Poster A* But shure isn't it old? Will it pass an NCT?

*Poster C* Would you be interested in a Playstation 3 plus cash?

*Seller* Christ...

*Poster D* Would you have a bicycle? I'm looking for a bicycle. I like cycling I do.

*Seller* Goes to the library with a bottle of brandy and loaded revolver...

You do wonder. The venue is great, the punters need sifting to avoid the dribblers. I've had similar on buyandsell and gumtree. Only in Ireland sad to say. It goes beyond seeking a bargain and goes into windowlicker horsetrading. More it shows up how many know the value of nothing unless it's in a shop window with a sticker on it.

prinz

Wibbs wrote: »

It depends. I'll certainly aim to strike a bargain, but one which is within reason. I don't do stupidly low ball offers that some do.

That's exactly it. I'd never make a monetary counter offer, or demand a certain percentage off.

HellFireClub

prinz wrote: »

Or you could just get it cheaper in the shop you're in.

Au Contrare Rodney! If they wanted my business they should have priced it right from the get-go!

splendid101

HellFireClub wrote: »

Just watching this thing on RTE1 here, The Consumer Show... Apparently we should all be haggling now for any retail stuff we want to buy...

Personally I will never haggle, I'm not a scabby cúnt from Cavan, if I want to buy it I'll pay the asking price for it, if I want it cheaper, I'll go to Dunnes!

Depends on what the object I'm buying is. I always ask for a few bob off Camera gear and normally get it.

If you don't haggle for certain items you're being foolish.

It'd be ridiculous asking for money off your Tesco shopping, but asking for a better deal when booking a hotel, or buying a €400 TV makes perfect sense.

mikemac

Last thing I haggled for was a TV but I was spending over €500. They expect you to haggle

Same for suits. You might not get money off but you can nearly always get a nice shirt and a quality tie thrown in. Menswear places expect haggling too

Tipsy McSwagger

Never at the checkout.

HellFireClub

I think it's a dying trait anyway, with internet "haggle proof" sales eating into conventional retail main street transactions.

the groutch

there are some things that are meant to be haggled, and some whic aren't.
some people are just blinf as to which aren't.
always worth bearing in mind that cash is king, and the more you're buying the better your haggling position

Daegerty

HellFireClub wrote: »

I think it's a dying trait anyway, with internet "haggle proof" sales eating into conventional retail main street transactions.

you just havn't learned how to haggle online yet. no need to feel insecure about being from cavan either, most e-peeps dont even know where it is

No1J

Powercity are always up for it, even if it is only dropping the delivery charge.
Tv €699 offer €650, they will offer €670, then get them to through the €30 charge in as well.