door to door fundraising

wolf moon

i've recently noticed an increased activity in this matter: money for animals, cancer, heart transplants, homeless and everything/one else. i do appreciate it, i do help when i can and when i feel i want to, but the fact that someone rings my doorbell every couple of days saying "i need X money for whatever, so give me your money and take this sh1tty, overpriced mascot" annoys me. not even the fact itself, but that evil change on the fundraiser's face when i say "not this time chief". same as the roma begging in the city centre imo, a bit less agressive though.
and no, i don't feel bad about it. no one has ever given me any money for free nor i believe someone ever will.

whats your view on this?

mikemac

No adult charity collectors around here.

Usually just the local underage soccer team knocking on doors looking for money to go to a blitz/tournament in Germany.

If it's not them it's the girls underage camoige team going for a weekend tournament and training out Whest.

If they don't catch me on the doorstep they catch me bagging groceries in Tesco.

Money is tight, parents are under pressure but it's a bit much to ask locals to send your children and coaches to Germany

Son Of A Vidic

My German Shepherds don't take to kindly to unexpected visitors.

Duckworth_Luas

Never steal from Girl Scouts collecting money, these chicks ended up in jail and hated by the entire USA. Admitting it on TV is not a good idea either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihLBCbNIDbI

Toby Take a Bow

I've noticed this increasing since the beginning of the year. When I was laid off, a guy from Oxfam called to the door. I told him I would be interested, but just got laid off, so wouldn't really be able to contribute. He launched into a speech which began with 'well, I'm sure you're not just telling me you got laid off in order to...'. Shut the door at this point.

I hate them enough when they step in front of you in the street, but when they start calling at your door, it's a bit much. I know about charities, if I want to contribute, I'll look you up. How's that sound?

Abi

wolf moon wrote: »

i've recently noticed an increased activity in this matter: money for animals, cancer, heart transplants, homeless and everything/one else. i do appreciate it, i do help when i can and when i feel i want to, but the fact that someone rings my doorbell every couple of days saying "i need X money for whatever, so give me your money and take this sh1tty, overpriced mascot" annoys me. not even the fact itself, but that evil change on the fundraiser's face when i say "not this time chief". same as the roma begging in the city centre imo, a bit less agressive though.
and no, i don't feel bad about it. no one has ever given me any money for free nor i believe someone ever will.

whats your view on this?

It gets on my fucking nerves. We have to endure it on the street, when paying for our food, and then on our own door steps. I donate whenever I have it to spare, the constant hounding is turning me against wanting to if I'm brutally honest.

Family and friends know to call or text me to let me know they're on the way, other wise my front door doesn't get answered. If its not chuggers, its people trying to sell me crap I don't want. I actually have my door-bell disconnected from the incessant hounding.

byhookorbycrook

I'll give to the local football or whatever, but we had a plague of "art students" with very little English trying to hard sell mawkish stuff door to door.The one time I did just close the door and walk off.

prinz

Have had a few young chancers at the door alright, usually involves a story about the school/football club/karate club etc and a supposed draw whereby you donate and write your name and address into a blank notebook on unheaded paper. It's a complete scam.

wolf moon

Toby Take a Bow wrote: »

I know about charities, if I want to contribute, I'll look you up. How's that sound?

exactly my thoughts, couldn't describe it better myself.

Abi wrote: »

It gets on my fucking nerves.

same here. i was worried that maybe it's just me becoming a stingy pr1ck, but for god's sake - i haven't seen pay increase for 4 years, getting cuts, tax increases, interest rate hikes, looking at water and household charges instead. it's not that i'm lying on a pile of cash i have nothing to do with, i try to save, use a bike as often as i can instead of a car. i don't have spare fivers or tenners lying all around me, and even if i had i have a lot of more important things to buy.

hate being put in that ****ing position "if you won't give us your money, sinead dies of cancer". well - tough luck me thinks.

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

very little English

no matter what language, a rip off is a rip off

phasers

This is when living in a rough council estate pays off, nobody knocks into my gaff begging because they know we're all either poor or drug dealers.

ScumLord

After the Rehab scandal and seeing this channel 4 documentary accusing the conservation charities of burning out small tribal African villages to make way for nature reserves I wouldn't trust any of them with my money. They all seem to be using charity to con money out of people.

alex73

Simply rule... Unless its the postman or somebody you know then don't open the door.

ScumLord

alex73 wrote: »

Simply rule... Unless its the postman or somebody you know then don't open the door.

What if it's someone you don't know posing as your postman?

mikemac

Neil Mellon, isn't he a great man?

Brings over builders to Africa to build houses.
When he could just donate the resoures and create employment, the locals could build their own houses.

Selling overpriced houses to Irish people. Now caught up in NAMA so owing money indirectly to taxpayers.

But he's a saint I tell ya

maglite

I dont have that much of a problem for genuine Charities collecting reasonable amounts.

This we need €25-€50 crack or I need a holiday with my Club lark is well out of order.

marcsignal

Don't mind it door to door, you can choose not to answer, but i fookin hate it in the pub.

Quiet you

mikemac wrote: »

Neil Mellon, isn't he a great man?

Brings over builders to Africa to build houses.
When he could just donate the resoures and create employment, the locals could build their own houses.

Selling overpriced houses to Irish people. Now caught up in NAMA so owing money indirectly to taxpayers.

But he's a saint I tell ya

The reason he brings Irish workers over is because they're the ones that raise the money for the building projects.

He could employ locals but then wouldn't get people as involved in raising donations and hence get less money for the projects.

It's not about getting people working in a sector with a short lifespan. It's about giving people homes so they can have a half way decent life and feel a bit of pride.


As for the nama lark, every developer I can think of is on their books. I don't see how that has anything to do with charities.

Also, just to get back on topic. I hate the pushy ba@tards too. I had a quick check after some concern "volunteers" came to my door. They were getting an hourly rate and a commission.

Minstrel27

I don't answer my door for anyone unless they call me first to tell me they are on their way.

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihLBCbNIDbI

Wow. Two incredibly stupid and heartless bitches.

Azureus

The beauty of living in an apartment block *content sigh*

Used to drive me mental, especially the kids collecting for their new club/trip/whatever, because theyd send them all out on the same night to the same houses!! So you would give to the first one fair enough, but then every 20 mins around comes another lil fecker!

Sonnenblumen

Door to door fundraising isn't really on anymore bar the odd local Clubs etc.

I'm amazed the 'French' students are still flogging 'art', obviously haven't been found out! Plenty of foolish artlovers still around, probably has something to do with the Irsh love of foreign accents.:D

The ones collecting on the street bug me. Just walking to work, minding my own business, and some crusty fcuk shuffles across the path in front of me, blocking my way and doing this kind of ironic 'wacky' dance.

Cnuts.

ScumLord

Minstrel27 wrote: »

I don't answer my door for anyone unless they call me first to tell me they are on their way.



Wow. Two incredibly stupid and heartless bitches.

Not to worry, Karma eventually catches up on her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhaGrCSq7YM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvbAP0eUFQM

Il Trap

Quiet you wrote: »

The reason he brings Irish workers over is because they're the ones that raise the money for the building projects.

He could employ locals but then wouldn't get people as involved in raising donations and hence get less money for the projects.

It's not about getting people working in a sector with a short lifespan. It's about giving people homes so they can have a half way decent life and feel a bit of pride.


As for the nama lark, every developer I can think of is on their books. I don't see how that has anything to do with charities.

Also, just to get back on topic. I hate the pushy ba@tards too. I had a quick check after some concern "volunteers" came to my door. They were getting an hourly rate and a commission.

Agreed that the good intention is there with Niall Mellon Trust but people coming to you asking to help fund their trip of a lifetime under the guise of charity p!sses me off - "We're collecting for needy children in Africa, please sponser us for a tenner".
Eh, no, you're collecting to pay the €4000 flight to Mozambique or wherever to teach A-B-Cs for three weeks! :mad:

There was a teacher in a school I worked in who went to Africa with a charity group to build some houses a few years back. She had students going round with sponser cards - for her!!

blaze1

mikemac wrote: »

If they don't catch me on the doorstep they catch me T bagging in Tesco.

FYP

easyeason3

Electric gates & a barking dog keep them out so it's rare enough I get caught at home.

People at checkouts wreck my head.
People standing in traffic waving a bucket through the windscreen make me want to run them over.
A person with his/ her own foldable chair outside the post office/ shop makes me want to kick it from underneath him/ her.
And those stupid, smiley, sing songy voiced tree huggers with clip boards looking for a direct debit to be set up (while making a weeks wage off it) make me want to rip their arms off & beat them senseless with said arms.

xsiborg

actually when i working in a large factory there were collections almost every week for somebodys birthday, somebodys funeral, somebody had a baby, somebody's wife had a baby, somebody collecting for some charity or another that was close to THEIR heart or an organisation or club they were involved in, it was endless!

i was glad to get out of work and get home in the evenings because it got to the stage where i'd bring dinner money plus maybe an extra €10 in coins for "collections money", til some ÁRSE instead of putting down €2 on the first line of a collections card put down €5, and then the looks you got if you put down anything less! :eek:

after a while it just became such a routine that you didnt even ask what they were collecting for any more, the pen and lines were just thrust under your nose and you'd look at what the last person gave, and give the same, or the bag of money was jingled under your nose, with the customary "sign the card!"...

the straws that broke the camels back for me were when i signed the usual "raffle ticket" card, shoved the stub in my pocket and carried on working, only later that night taking my pants off to go to bed and the stub fell out of my pocket-

"raffle to support <insert village here> GUN club"

"jesus if i'd known THAT!" i thought, no way would i have "supported" it!

second time then was some guys manager from another department collecting for the guy's ticket home to another country because he didnt have any money!

i'd never seen this manager before, never mind the guy he was collecting for, so i felt able to give him a rather stern look and tell him jog on! :mad:

doctor evil

I don't appreciate it when they knock at my door or invade my personal space on the street.

It is sometimes the most dubious sounding charities as well....

the groutch

they've certainly upped their game recently, they're was a guy collecting for a cancer chairty two feet outside the exit of Lidl yesterday (although there's a good chance he was a bogus collector)

Ally Dick

My attitude to charities changed when they went from seeking one-off donations to expecting you to sign up to a monthly direct debit. I signed up to two charities - my favourite and my wife's favourite, and that is going to be it...

wolf moon

xsiborg wrote: »

actually when i working in a large factory there were collections almost every week for somebodys birthday, somebodys funeral, somebody had a baby, somebody's wife had a baby, somebody collecting for some charity or another that was close to THEIR heart or an organisation or club they were involved in, it was endless!

i hear ya... you actually reminded me of another thread here in ah, someone's bitching about nerdy bollix not bringing sweets when back from holidays..

well, i don't bring sweets, i don't eat sweets at all - i wanna do my job, get paid and fcuk off home at 5;00pm
or that fella who does something he fancies for "charity" looking for "support", me arse... endless indeed.

cassid

i was in superquinn a good while back and inside the door there was a lady with a table collecting for a children's charity. I am familiar with children's charity as I do voluntary work for one but never heard of the one she was collecting for. Googled it, when I got home and discovered it was an American charity but they were not based in Ireland at all, I contacted the charity via fb and they said confirmed they have no office nor collect in Ireland. I rang superquinn ( it was a quiet day ) and they were shocked. Both they and the public were supporting an non-existent charity.

Have to say I don't like aggressive fundraisers on the street, I don't like the idea of charities knocking on people's doors, I would never support a charity that use these methods of fundraising.

Lawrence1895

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

My German Shepherds don't take to kindly to unexpected visitors.

Aren't they cute, them German Shepherds?

Anyway, my cat once growled and jumped out of the window into the front garden, and one of them collectors got a real fright. It's very quiet here ever since

Oranage2

I use to fundraise on the street and it would break my heart watching people just walk by me and not care one bit about the poor starving kids in Africa - If only people knew that only for the price of a pint a month they could feed a whole village for a year.

the groutch

I'm hoping there's a whole load of sarcasm in the above post, because the majority of that "price of a pint" goes towards paying a wage to the fundraiser, and the wages of the fatcat directors

and when what's left gets to Africa it often (albeit indirectly) funds military regimes

Pretty Polly

Abi wrote: »

Family and friends know to call or text me to let me know they're on the way, other wise my front door doesn't get answered. If its not chuggers, its people trying to sell me crap I don't want. I actually have my door-bell disconnected from the incessant hounding.

+1

hondasam

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

My German Shepherds don't take to kindly to unexpected visitors.

same here, just need to train her to open the door now.

Delancey

Charity collectors are a total pain in the arse - full stop.

They park themselves outside Post Offices on pension days to try and ' guilt ' people into coughing up.
Most seem to be professional collectors which means that only a fraction actually goes to the charity.
Summer time is the worst - students trying to earn a few quid are everywhere , collectors for PAWS seem to be coming out of the drains at this stage.

deeduck48

doctor evil wrote: »

I don't appreciate it when they knock at my door or invade my personal space on the street.

It is sometimes the most dubious sounding charities as well....

Agreed.
I once got followed the WHOLE length of Patrick Street in cork by someone selling scratch cards, in the end i just ran. it was for an alcohol rehab centre which is funny as i know loads of people who've been through hell and back with afamily member with alcohol problems who never got help from this crowd.very suspicious.
Wearing headphones and humming stops some of them approaching.:D

flutterflye

I always try to pretend I'm not home, but my pesky kids give me away everytime.

I had to cancel my monthly payment to Concern last year, and I felt really sh1tty about it.

But it was a decision I had to make.

If I, or anyone else wish to contribute to a charity, we can do so off our own batt, without being harassed at our own houses during dinner or putting kids to sleep.

EGAR

Delancey wrote: »

Charity collectors are a total pain in the arse - full stop.

They park themselves outside Post Offices on pension days to try and ' guilt ' people into coughing up.
Most seem to be professional collectors which means that only a fraction actually goes to the charity.
Summer time is the worst - students trying to earn a few quid are everywhere , collectors for PAWS seem to be coming out of the drains at this stage.

FYI: PAWS no longer has charitable status.

Delancey

EGAR wrote: »

FYI: PAWS no longer has charitable status.

Wow thats interesting ,thanks

Daegerty

My favourite method of door to door fundraising is turning up and rambling on and on about some product that the person doesn't want while 3 lads go in around the back of the house and take all the stuff

dpe

They never ask me. My missus says I put out a "**** off" forcefield when I'm walking down the street. I'm actually dead nice really

I'll sometimes give to the supermarket baggers, but other than that I won't do unsolicited charity donations. I've got about three causes I will make the effort for, and that's it.

WoollyRedHat

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

Never steal from Girl Scouts collecting money, these chicks ended up in jail and hated by the entire USA. Admitting it on TV is not a good idea either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihLBCbNIDbI

That's a bad skin condition your one has

EGAR

I live, literally, in the middle of nowhere and never had anyone knocking on my door apart from the usual *Is the boss man home* crowd. But in the past two years this has changed and I now have a guy selling meat, another one selling fish and one dejected looking fella selling clothes out of a suitcase (!!). I never buy anything off them but they keep coming back every two weeks or so..

nlgbbbblth

I've started to ask the collectors for money when they call to my door.

It works wonders, especially when you won't take no for an answer.

MungBean

I dont donate to anyone who's ignorant or over enthusiastic about asking for money.

Ignorant = gimme money ya cheap bastard I know ya have it. Set up to stare at ya when ya step out of the post office. To try and corner and embarrass ya into giving them something.

Over enthusiastic = Hey my new best friend wanna get involved in this really cool thing to help people out ? - Ya know damn well he's on commission and making a fortune.

Long story short I dont donate because they are all tricksters. Whether the money goes to charity or not is irrelevant. They try to trick, guilt, bully you into giving them money so they can all piss off with themselves.

wolf moon

i'd say i could easily count in people from eircom/airtricity - utter madness.
why is it so hard to understand that i don't want phonewatch alarm - today it's been 4th time within last year i had to refuse this guys and tell them politely to f*** off.
and i am already with airtricity for over a year (dual fuel) so please stop asking me to join!
thank god upc stopped calling me every few weeks to "let me know" that they have phone service available and perhaps i would like to join?

it seems to be different but at the end of the day it's all the same - looking to pick a few quid off my pocket. the fact that i have to stop doing what i'm doing and go downstairs to deal with those happy, enthusiastic, optimistic twats drives me mental.