Dublin Super Cup 30-31 July,Aviva Stadium

Nowso

http://www.thedublinsupercup.com/

Airticity league 11,

Celtic

Manchester City

Inter Milan.

Mary Byrne singing also thrown in on the Sunday

VinylJunkie

John Delaney back trying to make a show of the LOI. Absolute joke if you ask me.

Nowso

airtricity will play Man city and Celtic. its good publicity for the loi

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Nowso wrote: »

airtricity will play Man city and Celtic. its good publicity for the loi

Not when they lose 6/7-0..

VinylJunkie

Not really, all our top players will be unavailable as its on in and around when the European qualifiers are on.

maximoose

Site blocked here, anyone want to tell us how much the tickets are starting at? If not completely extortionate I wouldn't mind seeing a game

Nowso

30 euro up a day depends on where your sitting day 2 days 10 discount.

Nowso

VinylJunkie wrote: »

Not really, all our top players will be unavailable as its on in and around when the European qualifiers are on.

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im sure theyl have a good team as lads would love to play against city and celtic

bonerm

It should have been an actual Irish club rather than an XI. At least then they'd have a chance of winning a game.

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Nowso wrote: »

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im sure theyl have a good team as lads would love to play against city and celtic

What?

It's right in the middle of the season.

The "lads" who play for the better teams, ie the better players, will mostly be on European duty with their teams, and probably won't be released.

Just like the Man U match last season, this is a slap in the face of the LoI by the FAI, it does nobody any favours, and when the fans of the likes of City and Celtic see the state of the players who DO turn out for the LoI XI, they'll hardly be encouraged to go and see a LoI match.

A team of lads thworn together last minute, coupled with withdrawals means only one thing - a negative experience and idea of the LoI for any non-LoI fans who attend this tournament.

Please explain how it could be otherwise, without resorting to condescending "ah shure the lads would love it" claptrap.

Nowso

if you gave it to 1 team the rest would complain like mad . be good to see Bray players and the like get a game maybe

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Nowso wrote: »

if you gave it to 1 team the rest would complain like mad . be good to see Bray players and the like get a game maybe

Yeah, great for everyone involved when a ramshackle team of LoI journeymen and youngsters get hockeyed 6, 7, 8 or 9 nil in two games.

Celtic/City learn nothing.

Non-LoI fans leave with their idea of the LoI being shíte re-inforced.

The players on the LoI team make a holy show of themselves, again.

Fact is, there should be no LoI involvement in this, unless a team specifically asks.


Yes, all LoI teams will probably have summer friendlies against foreign "big name" opposition (Shels usually bring Leeds over for example) to make some money, there are zero positives to this farce of a circus for the LoI involvement, none.

You still haven't answered me btw.

GLaDOS

Agree with Des, no use at all for the LOI

Nowso

nobody expects them to win . you would hope they wont get totally hammered . but its a good oppurtunity for all the loi lads invoved. and it is bound to promote the loi directly or indirectly.

stovelid

Nowso wrote: »

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im sure theyl have a good team as lads would love to play against city and celtic

They don't have a say in it. They're full-time footballers with club responsibilities here and in Europe.

The problem here is that people can't get their heads round the fact that because the LOI isn't a super-duper league, everything sho7uld come to a halt for a tin-pot tournament like this.

Nowso wrote: »

n and it is bound to promote the loi directly or indirectly.

LOI attendances have really skyrocketed since the United vs LOI XI game last year alright.

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Nowso wrote: »

nobody expects them to win . you would hope they wont get totally hammered .

They were the last time against Man U, why, or indeed HOW, could this be different?

Nowso wrote: »

but its a good oppurtunity for all the loi lads invoved..

Explain please?

How is it an "opportunity"? What kind of opportunity is it? A nice day out in the Aviva. Whoop-dee-doo indeed.

Are you talking about them maybe getting a spot on a magic flight? I don't think any of the players who played against Man U got that "opportunity" last year.

Nowso wrote: »

and it is bound to promote the loi directly or indirectly.

nope, it's bound to reinforce already dim opinions that people have of these players, retards at the match who think these are the LoIs best players, who think that a team thrown together in a fortnight, in the middle of the domestic season shouldn't be getting beaten hammered by some of the richest club sides in the world.

Nowso

facebook page for anybody interested

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Nowso

Damien Richardson to be manager of the airtricity league team !.

im sure rico wont want to be hammered

super_furry

Nowso wrote: »

Damien Richardson to be manager of the airtricity league team !.

im sure rico wont want to be hammered

Doesn't matter what he wants. With less than a week together with a group of players that will be made up of the 'best of the rest' of the Airtricity League, it's what's going to happen.

The whole thing is a farce, they'd be better off just having a three-team tournament.

ColeTrain

Des wrote: »

What?

It's right in the middle of the season.

The "lads" who play for the better teams, ie the better players, will mostly be on European duty with their teams, and probably won't be released.

Just like the Man U match last season, this is a slap in the face of the LoI by the FAI, it does nobody any favours, and when the fans of the likes of City and Celtic see the state of the players who DO turn out for the LoI XI, they'll hardly be encouraged to go and see a LoI match.

A team of lads thworn together last minute, coupled with withdrawals means only one thing - a negative experience and idea of the LoI for any non-LoI fans who attend this tournament.

Please explain how it could be otherwise, without resorting to condescending "ah shure the lads would love it" claptrap.

I understand what you're saying but it is only a friendly no matter what way you look at it. If the XI beat Celtic, I wouldn't be too bothered nor would I care if Celtic beat them 6-0.

For the Irish lads it is a great experience to play against some top players in the Aviva.

Nowso

whatever negative views you all have its is a chance for the loi to promote itself and any such chance needs to be taken.

VinylJunkie

I'm not sure if you're trolling or don't have a clue what your talking about. Either way your miles off the mark. This will not do anything to promote the league.

dor83

While I'm looking to watching the matches I do agree that this is a waste of time for the LOI, it's on during the middle of their season and at a time when some of the top teams from the league will be involved in European qualifiers so the best players won't be available. It would have made more sense to bring in another overseas club, LOI fans are not going to be interested in this anyway so why not try to get a another club that might attract more spectators.

Nowso

There are lots of possible ways of using such an event to promote the LOI. over the 2 days . and lets hope the league use the chance available.

Gavin "shels"

Nowso wrote: »

There are lots of possible ways of using such an event to promote the LOI. over the 2 days . and lets hope the league use the chance available.

Are you lost or just a troll?

This has no benefit to the LoI whatsoever, nothing at all. Irish people will go to support the foreign teams and not bat an eye to the LoI teams after this "Super Cup". Better John Delany and the crooks in the FAI feck off and try actually helping the League.

super_furry

Nowso wrote: »

whatever negative views you all have its is a chance for the loi to promote itself and any such chance needs to be taken.

You're either on a wind up, or don't understand the situation. Watching a thrown together group of Dundalk, UCD, Bray and Derry players getting humped by a disinterested bunch of superstars who are still on their holidays will mean nothing but negative things for the League.

Nowso

Im refering to the whole days entertainment. you get 2 days of the aviva stadium full of football fans who would be possible loi fans . there is entertainment there and a chance for the LOI to promote their product to football fans via other methods than just the game !

Pedro K

Nowso, you are talking an obscene amount of ****e. I don't know if you're trolling or just being silly.

This is not a chance at all for the LOI to showcase it's product. The vast majority of the league's top players won't even be available for selection in the LOI XI.

It will be a bunch of players thrown together haphazardly with little time to gel or train as a team. It would be a much better showcase of the league's product if they got one or two of the teams in rather than an XI.

What will (more than likely) happen is the LOI XI will be whalloped, and all the Irish City, Celtic etc. fans will leave Lansdowne Road thinking that the league is a heap of ****e and will never be worth attending.

Open your eyes man. This will not be good at all for the LOI. The whole concept of a LOI XI is flawed.

Also, some of the "lads" you speak of who would relish the chance to play against Celtic and City reserves have played games against Real Madrid and competitive european games against Juventus. Not to mention since being in Tallaght Rovers have had a Celtic XI over on more than one occasion.

Gavin "shels"

Nowso wrote: »

Im refering to the whole days entertainment. you get 2 days of the aviva stadium full of football fans who would be possible loi fans . there is entertainment there and a chance for the LOI to promote their product to football fans via other methods than just the game !

There will be very few football fans there, although there will be a mountain of Irish event junkies!

"Whole days entertainment" will you ever go and sh1te, a football match is about football not entertainment.

Doodee

Myself and our mates are going to see Inter play Man City. One of them is Italian and so he doesn't know what a LoI is.

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Doodee wrote: »

Myself and our mates are going to see Inter play Man City. One of them is Italian and so he doesn't know what a LoI is.

Your Italian friend has no idea that Ireland has a domestic league.

Does he even like football?

Shamrock Rovers played Juventus in Europe last season ffs.

djpbarry

Nowso wrote: »

... it is bound to promote the loi directly or indirectly.

How? How did a poorly-prepared selection of LOI players getting thumped by Man Utd “promote” the league? Last season’s cup final did more to promote the league than 100 Dublin “Super” Cups.

ColeTrain wrote: »

For the Irish lads it is a great experience to play against some top players in the Aviva.

They’re playing Celtic for **** sake. In recent seasons, Irish clubs have played sides from (among others) France, Russia, Germany and Italy in European competition, but you think they’re going to be thrilled with the opportunity of playing Celtic and Man City’s second string?

ColeTrain

djpbarry wrote: »

They’re playing Celtic for **** sake. In recent seasons, Irish clubs have played sides from (among others) France, Russia, Germany and Italy in European competition, but you think they’re going to be thrilled with the opportunity of playing Celtic and Man City’s second string?

The way you're going on you'd swear every player who will be selected for the LOI XI has regular European experience - they don't. Most would certainly have not played against top players or have played inside the Aviva more than once. It would be a big deal for most of them, to say otherwise is daft.

Anyways, doesn't matter my point was it's only a friendly game anyway. It's only to give the three clubs a decent warm up for the new season, nothing else.

TheBuilder

djpbarry wrote: »

How? How did a poorly-prepared selection of LOI players getting thumped by Man Utd “promote” the league? Last season’s cup final did more to promote the league than 100 Dublin “Super” Cups.

They’re playing Celtic for **** sake. In recent seasons, Irish clubs have played sides from (among others) France, Russia, Germany and Italy in European competition, but you think they’re going to be thrilled with the opportunity of playing Celtic and Man City’s second string?

Of course they'll be thrilled to play against Celtic, to suggest otherwise is ludicrous. They'll be playing against players who are experienced in Internationals and European games.

I'm all for supporting the LOI and having it progress, but the way people bum it up but run down teams like Celtic and Rangers is beyond belief, LOI teams can only dream of being as well known as them.

stovelid

TheBuilder wrote: »

I'm all for supporting the LOI and having it progress,

Yet you describe them in terms of park footballers. Wetting themselves over playing Celtic? There have plenty of big name friendlies here down the years but at least the clubs genuinely benefit from them.

TheBuilder

stovelid wrote: »

Yet you describe them in terms of park footballers. Wetting themselves over playing Celtic? There have plenty of big name friendlies here down the years but at least the clubs genuinely benefit from them.

No I didn't, you seeing things?

Lucan Bohs

I'm a Celtic and Bohs fan, scottish football is only a few steps ahead of the LOI. If you take out Celtic and rangers than the leagues are almost the same.

All this cup will do is reinforce non LoI supporters opinion of how crap they think the league is

djpbarry

ColeTrain wrote: »

The way you're going on you'd swear every player who will be selected for the LOI XI has regular European experience - they don't. Most would certainly have not played against top players or have played inside the Aviva more than once. It would be a big deal for most of them, to say otherwise is daft.

It was stated that it would be a great experience for these lads to play against some top players at the Aviva. Granted, playing at the Aviva will be an experience, but considering LOI sides regular entertain British sides in pre-season friendlies, I’m failing to see how Celtic’s second-string represent such a thrilling prospect.

Gavin "shels"

Lucan Bohs wrote: »

All this cup will do is reinforce non LoI supporters opinion of how crap they think the league is

And it shows how retarded they are, a bunch of players who the majority of which have never played together are thrown together to get a hiding. Now if it was Celtic against Shamrock Rovers I could definitely see Rovers smashing them, considering Finn Harps last season and they're muck.

ColeTrain

djpbarry wrote: »

It was stated that it would be a great experience for these lads to play against some top players at the Aviva. Granted, playing at the Aviva will be an experience, but considering LOI sides regular entertain British sides in pre-season friendlies, I’m failing to see how Celtic’s second-string represent such a thrilling prospect.

It will be in front of a decent crowd and covered live on Sky. Much more interesting than your run of the mill friendly. Also, I'm not sure what squad Celtic will bring but I think it will be full strength with the strongest team playing one game and a weaker team playing another.

Gavin shels wrote: »

And it shows how retarded they are, a bunch of players who the majority of which have never played together are thrown together to get a hiding. Now if it was Celtic against Shamrock Rovers I could definitely see Rovers smashing them, considering Finn Harps last season and they're muck.

Of course nobody is expecting much from a team thrown together. It just highlights the fact it's not to be taken too seriously.

As for Rovers smashing Celtic, lol I doubt that - Not that it has anything to do with the discussion.

stovelid

ColeTrain wrote: »

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As for Rovers smashing Celtic, lol I doubt that - Not that it has anything to do with the discussion.

It doesn't but the lazy contempt in the post underpins it. The LOI select are just turning up to get a whipping with little compensation.

TheBuilder

Gavin shels wrote: »

And it shows how retarded they are, a bunch of players who the majority of which have never played together are thrown together to get a hiding. Now if it was Celtic against Shamrock Rovers I could definitely see Rovers smashing them, considering Finn Harps last season and they're muck.

Lol! What planet are you on?! It wasn't even Celtic's reserves that played against Finn Harps.

djpbarry

ColeTrain wrote: »

Of course nobody is expecting much from a team thrown together. It just highlights the fact it's not to be taken too seriously.

Well, that’s kind of the point – specifically, it doesn’t take the LOI seriously.

ColeTrain wrote: »

As for Rovers smashing Celtic, lol I doubt that...

Rovers v Celtic would certainly be a far more interesting spectacle.

Gavin "shels"

TheBuilder wrote: »

Lol! What planet are you on?! It wasn't even Celtic's reserves that played against Finn Harps.

I'll think you'll find there was a few in it, against a Finn Harps team who sh1te.

As said before it should be a LoI club each year instead of an LoI XI.

ColeTrain

stovelid wrote: »

It doesn't but the lazy contempt in the post underpins it. The LOI select are just turning up to get a whipping with little compensation.

What lazy contempt?

We're not even talking about a club team, there's a fair few excuses that you can use if they get a "whipping" and justifiably so.
Anyone that would base their opinion on the LOI because of a made up XI in a friendly competition doesn't really know a lot about football anyway.

ColeTrain

djpbarry wrote: »

Rovers v Celtic would certainly be a far more interesting spectacle.

Yes it would be, in a competitive match. Friendlies don't count anyway.

flas

im goin to this with the auld fella and 2 uncles and few of my little cousins, got reduced price tickets and it will be what it is, just a weekend out! gone are the days when the likes of celtic would bring a full strenght side to places like the rugby club in longford for a pre season!

TheBuilder

Gavin shels wrote: »

I'll think you'll find there was a few in it, against a Finn Harps team who sh1te.

As said before it should be a LoI club each year instead of an LoI XI.

Not arguing the fact it should be a LOI club, to suggest any LOI team would smash Celtic is crazy.

djpbarry

ColeTrain wrote: »

Friendlies don't count anyway.

In this case, in terms of negative publicity, they count.

ColeTrain

djpbarry wrote: »

In this case, in terms of negative publicity, they count.

Disagree, you're being paranoid over what people ( who have no interest in the LOI ) think of a made up team.

If they were to beat Celtic and Man City would you still class it as negative publicity ? Probably not. What I'm saying to you is it doesn't matter what the scoreline is, the majority of people don't care.

stovelid

ColeTrain wrote: »

Anyone that would base their opinion on the LOI because of a made up XI in a friendly competition doesn't really know a lot about football anyway.

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