whats my car worth?

sean1141

i know my car is not to everyones taste but it is a rare enough car and im finding it hard to find another one to price it off. anyone any idea what it would be worth
2005 mk1 seat leon fr+ uk import
1.9 tdi 150bhp, 88k miles, 26 month's nct, 5 months tax, full seat service history up untill 50k serviced every 7000 miles by myself after that. timing belt kit + waterpump at 65k. new pads and disks front and back at 68k. heated electric leather. loads of extras

TestTransmission

I'm guessing 7ish

Wisesmurf

I'm an owner of an '04 Cupra R. I'd say your car is worth about the 6-6.500 mark. Lovely motor, I've read your thread on SCN.

EPM

I'd think 7k ish too. Very nice motor btw.

Nonoperational

Lovely car. Lots of character that generation has.

Mr. Presentable

Nice but limited appeal. I'd give you 3k

TestTransmission

Mr. Presentable wrote: »

Nice but limited appeal. I'd give you 3k

Aren't you hilarious,this isn't after hours

Mr. Presentable

TestTransmission wrote: »

Aren't you hilarious,this isn't after hours

If you think so, but it's a 6 year old Seat deisel. OP requested opinions, mine is one - that it differs from yours, tbh, is a point in my favour.

Mr. Presentable

Mr. Presentable wrote: »

Nice but limited appeal. I'd give you 3k

Mr. Presentable wrote: »

If you think so, but it's a 6 year old Seat deisel. OP requested opinions, mine is one - that it differs from yours, tbh, is a point in my favour.

Fair play for voicing your opinion.
You'd see more than €3000 for a 2005 petrol MG ZR or ZS so I'd be thinking your valuation is a tad off the mark

I'd go with €5750/€6000 region for a private sale, that would be the gone price not the asking.

Ricardo G

I certainly would'nt think it would have limited market tbh, cracking looking car in diesel with low mileage for the year, has leather and some tasteful mods.
I'd certainly part with 5500 for it

166man

Mr. Presentable wrote: »

Nice but limited appeal. I'd give you 3k

3K? That's a bit of a kick in the teeth for the seller! Its worth probably double that, I would pitch it at around €6950 mark and see if you get any interest. I think it is a fine motor but bear in mind that it is a six year old SEAT Diesel with almost 90k on it!

Good luck!

sean1141

few on pistonheads

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2869923.htm

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2871112.htm

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2876154.htm

vrt on mine is coming in at 1200 thats before nct or tax
6000 pounds is almost 6800 euros
s3 leather seats go for around 500 +

i think 5500 would be a very low price.. but then its my car so i am bound to say that!!

TestTransmission

Price it at 7k,what are you thinking of changing to?

sean1141

dont think ill be selling it lol

the culture of deference

Nice car

sean1141

:eek:
http://www.adverts.ie/car/leon/leon/seat-leon-2006/354136
http://www.adverts.ie/car/leon/leon/seat-leon-2002/353443

Nonoperational

Now that is ambitious!

EPM

Nine months old and even then it was over priced.

john mayo 10

I have a 01 BMW 316i, 1.9 petrol, 2 yrs NCT, 110 K miles. Whats it worth??????????

Ardennes1944

i was looking for one of these when buying my last car but found pickings here to be ridiculously slim! id have paid 6 certainly for yours, lovely looking car

sean1141

Deutschlandfürimmer7 wrote: »

i was looking for one of these when buying my last car but found pickings here to be ridiculously slim! id have paid 6 certainly for yours, lovely looking car

ya wouldnt have mine for 6

Ardennes1944

i know....but negotiations have to start somewhere :pac:

sean1141

Deutschlandfürimmer7 wrote: »

i know....but negotiations have to start somewhere :pac:

lol there are negotiations and there are insults

they are a rare enough car with the factory fitted cupra r kit and the 17' version of the cupra r wheels. most 150s have the cupra bumper and mank alloys!!

robtri

IMHO, it worth around 6.5k tops.


seat leon FR on carzone 1.9tdi as well asking 6650

http://www.carzone.ie/search/SEAT/Leon/1.9TDI--/201120202456726/advert?channel=CARS

magunkey

sean1141 wrote: »

dont think ill be selling it lol

Bit of a pointless thread then.

But, If you were selling it, I'd say you'd get about 4K on a good day unless you can find someone that REALLY wants that specific car. (Good luck with that).

Bottom line is that it's a 2005 Diesel Seat with 100miles on it in a market awash with 1000's of other cheap small diesel cars to choose from.

sean1141

robtri wrote: »

IMHO, it worth around 6.5k tops.


seat leon FR on carzone 1.9tdi as well asking 6650

http://www.carzone.ie/search/SEAT/Leon/1.9TDI--/201120202456726/advert?channel=CARS

cheers for that.. lot of miles for a sunday driver. mine is in daily use and has less lol

magunkey wrote: »

Bit of a pointless thread then.

why is it pointless?? i asked people what they thought it was worth. they gave their opinions, its a lot lower that i expected so im not going to bother selling. i have too much time and money put into it to give it away..

magunkey wrote: »

But, If you were selling it, I'd say you'd get about 4K on a good day unless you can find someone that REALLY wants that specific car. (Good luck with that).

ya 4k and i wouldnt have it 5 mins

magunkey wrote: »

Bottom line is that it's a 2005 Diesel Seat with 100miles on it in a market awash with 1000's of other cheap small diesel cars to choose from.

there is 88k miles on it. where are you getting 100k from thats 12k. almost a years driving for a lot of people.. going by you i could have put up the millage as 76k:rolleyes::D

Out of interest if it's not for sale now anyway what were you reckoning it was worth?

sean1141

maybe 7750 - 8250

magunkey

sean1141 wrote: »

maybe 7750 - 8250

You're dreaming.

At that price you're competing with Bill Cullen's spanky new Clio's complete with three year warranty and finance arranged.

Like it or not - for someone to buy yours they are taking a risk it might have been trashed, clocked, or crashed. They also have to arrange to borrow the money off the bank or BS.

Therefore, to sell, it has to be very cheap compared to the competition (which is dictated by price).

BTW, I'm not just talking about your car. I'm talking second hand cars in general.

sean1141

magunkey wrote: »

At that price you're competing with Bill Cullen's spanky new Clio's complete with three year warranty and finance arranged.

in all fairness i dont think anyone who would be looking at buying my car would be thinking of buying a new clio or the other way around either

magunkey wrote: »

Like it or not - for someone to buy yours they are taking a risk it might have been trashed, clocked, or crashed.

which can all be checked by anyone with half a brain to bring along a mechanic with them..

magunkey

sean1141 wrote: »

which can all be checked by anyone with half a brain to bring along a mechanic with them..

That's yet another thing they have to organise and pay for when considering buying second hand.

I also neglected to mention the fact that Mr. Cullen will also arrange a trade in.

So, when you compare the basic facts;

You're selling (or not in this case) a seven year old car, with almost 100,000 miles on the clock, that has been molested, that may have been crashed, that they need pay a mechanic to look at, that they need to sort the cash for, that they may need to sell their own car before they can buy. And you want close to €8,000 for it.

Bill will sell them a new car, roughly the same size, with warranty, factory fresh, in the colour they want, on an eleven plate, with the finance sorted and he'll also take their existing car as part payment. And he'll do all of that for in or around the same money.

You just can't compete with that - so, to sell it, it needs to be as cheap as chips.

EPM

Molested? LMFAO.

If anything that is probably the best cared for example in the country.

Also, what Bill will sell you is a basic supermini. And it's a few quid more. It won't have the same spec, will cost more to fuel ad depreciate quicker. Also the person interested in a biggo Clio will have no interest in a relatively powerful diesel with a sporting twist. And if the person is buying from Dr Bill their trade in is what is getting them the car for such a low price. So you could technically scrap your old car yourself if you wanted to and still be in the same (or slightly better) position if you were to buy the OP's motor.

It's like comparing apples with oranges.

Everyone is comparing apples with oranges today

TestTransmission

magunkey wrote: »

That's yet another thing they have to organise and pay for when considering buying second hand.

I also neglected to mention the fact that Mr. Cullen will also arrange a trade in.

So, when you compare the basic facts;

You're selling (or not in this case) a seven year old car, with almost 100,000 miles on the clock, that has been molested, that may have been crashed, that they need pay a mechanic to look at, that they need to sort the cash for, that they may need to sell their own car before they can buy. And you want close to €8,000 for it.

Bill will sell them a new car, roughly the same size, with warranty, factory fresh, in the colour they want, on an eleven plate, with the finance sorted and he'll also take their existing car as part payment. And he'll do all of that for in or around the same money.

You just can't compete with that - so, to sell it, it needs to be as cheap as chips.

Is that you Bill?

By your theory we're all silly fools to be buying 2nd hand cars,why don't we all go do the right thing and buy some new poxy french car which will make me cry every time I sit into it

sean1141

magunkey wrote: »

That's yet another thing they have to organise and pay for when considering buying second hand.

I also neglected to mention the fact that Mr. Cullen will also arrange a trade in.

So, when you compare the basic facts;

You're selling (or not in this case) a seven year old car, with almost 100,000 miles on the clock, that has been molested, that may have been crashed, that they need pay a mechanic to look at, that they need to sort the cash for, that they may need to sell their own car before they can buy. And you want close to €8,000 for it.

Bill will sell them a new car, roughly the same size, with warranty, factory fresh, in the colour they want, on an eleven plate, with the finance sorted and he'll also take their existing car as part payment. And he'll do all of that for in or around the same money.

You just can't compete with that - so, to sell it, it needs to be as cheap as chips.

dude you really need to lern how to count;)

magunkey

EPM wrote: »

It's like comparing apples with oranges.

Truth is that between the recession and the scrappage scheme anyone privately selling a second hand car is, to all intents and purposes, selling a Lemon.

The market for the Seat was already small because of the mods, but it's even smaller now.

Most blokes who might be interested in it, will be equally interested in impressing the ladies with an eleven plate that they can stick their own mods on as and when they can afford it.

As far as depreciation goes, I can assure you that the new Clio will be worth more and be far more saleable in three years time than what will then be a TEN year old Seat.

sean1141

magunkey wrote: »

Truth is that between the recession and the scrappage scheme anyone privately selling a second hand car is, to all intents and purposes, selling a Lemon.

The market for the Seat was already small because of the mods, but it's even smaller now.

Most blokes who might be interested in it, will be equally interested in impressing the ladies with an eleven plate that they can stick their own mods on as and when they can afford it.

As far as depreciation goes, I can assure you that the new Clio will be worth more and be far more saleable in three years time than what will then be a TEN year old Seat.

nine;)

magunkey

TestTransmission wrote: »

Is that you Bill?

By your theory we're all silly fools to be buying 2nd hand cars,why don't we all go do the right thing and buy some new poxy french car which will make me cry every time I sit into it

No, My theory is that most people haven't got a clue about the difference between a good car and a box with wheels - and they don't care.

sean1141

magunkey wrote: »

No, My theory is that most people haven't got a clue about the difference between a good car and a box with wheels - and they don't care.

thats very true

magunkey

sean1141 wrote: »

nine;)

That's another common mistake that sellers make.

They advertise the car stating the miles and age and price and go away thinking that that is what people will read.

The truth is that people immediately round up the age and mileage to the next big one and, simultaneously, round the price down.

Just look at the comments on the Bangernomics thread.

"he's asking €1,000 so I'd say you could get it for €300.00"

sean1141

magunkey wrote: »

That's another common mistake that sellers make.

no its just the truth

EPM

magunkey wrote: »

Truth is that between the recession and the scrappage scheme anyone privately selling a second hand car is, to all intents and purposes, selling a Lemon.

How the hell do you figure that one out? Suddenly all cars are leomons because ten year old cars can be scrapped and people are a bit stuck for cash?

magunkey wrote: »

Most blokes who might be interested in it, will be equally interested in impressing the ladies with an eleven plate that they can stick their own mods on as and when they can afford it.

Really? If I was in the market for a car about 6-8k I can assure you I would be looking at that car. I can also assure you I would rather walk than drive a boggo Clio. Modding a boggo Clio just looks sad too.

magunkey wrote: »

As far as depreciation goes, I can assure you that the new Clio will be worth more and be far more saleable in three years time than what will then be a TEN year old Seat.

But it's a 9 year old car FFS. And not 100k either. Also the Clio is what, 9k to buy? Including your old car (at leaast a couple of hundred that should be worth). So in three years say a €9k Clio is worth half of it's new price, about €4.5k. The Leon was already €1.5k less to buy and then add in whatever the scrapped car was worth. If the Leon was worth anything over €2.5k then it's evens. And realistically it will be.

Then you have the fact that you spend 3 years driving a more powerful, efficient and better specced car.

magunkey

EPM wrote: »

Then you have the fact that you spend 3 years driving a more powerful, efficient and better specced car.

The fact that you care about what you drive is great. Everyone should. Most don't, they buy cars as white goods. If they did care Dr Bill wouldn't be making a living selling shed loads of ****e.

But he is.

EPM

magunkey wrote: »

The fact that you care about what you drive is great. Everyone should. Most don't, they buy cars as white goods. If they did care Dr Bill wouldn't be making a living selling shed loads of ****e.

It is a motors forum:D;)

magunkey

EPM wrote: »

It is a motors forum:D;)

Exactly, which is why there have been so many posts on this emotive subject (nobody wants to admit their precious jammer isn't worth what they hoped it was), but reality bites when you actually take the plunge and stick the thing up on Carzone only for the tumbleweed to roll past your phone.

Ask anyone who's actually sold a car privately in the last six months. It's almost heartbreaking to listen to the offers - let alone take one.

On the upside...what you loose selling you gain back when you buy, so it's not the end of the world.

Wats_in_a_name

magunkey wrote: »

Ask anyone who's actually sold a car privately in the last six months. It's almost heartbreaking to listen to the offers - let alone take one.
.

Sold two cars in the last 6 months. Both went for a more than I hoped for. Second hand market is very strong at the moment from what I can see.