Gay Pride festival begins in Dublin

AckwelFoley

From: Breakingnews.ie

Thousands are expected to attend this year's Dublin Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender & Queer Pride Festival, which is kicking off today.

The festival, which will run for the next 10 days, is one of the largest nationwide, with more than 50 events being held.

"Dublin LGBTQ Pride Festival 2011 is the most ambitious to date with an expanded programme and a focus on diverse events that will appeal to people from all communities,” said Jo McNamara, Dublin LGBTQ Pride Festival chairperson.

"€2.8m was generated for the city from the 2010 Festival.

"This year we have also seen the engagement of big brands including Google Android and 98FM as sponsors and Carroll’s Gifts & Souvenirs, who are creating special Dublin Pride Festival merchandise.

"This demonstrates the positive evolution of Pride since its humble beginnings in 1983 and the advances that have even occurred this year with Civil Partnership, openly gay people elected to the Dáil and the Equality Tribunal’s landmark decision in relation

Queer pride festival.. thought "queer" was an offensive term?

G_R

It must some reverse psychology ploy. If we call ourselves Queer, people think we don't mind it, then it won't be used against us in a derogatory sense.

I should have been a psychologist. My talents are wasted

Millicent

snyper wrote: »

From: Breakingnews.ie



Queer pride festival.. thought "queer" was an offensive term?

Nah, there's been a reclamation of the word in the LGBT community. It's still offensive to use it to insult though.

Run_to_da_hills

snyper wrote: »

From: Breakingnews.ie



Queer pride festival.. thought "queer" was an offensive term?

Queer is an acceptable term among the ghay community just as the word n******r is acceptable among the dhuine gorm community.

Dun

Kinda like black people calling each other the 'n' word but, if you're not black and say it, it's definitely not okay.

Dunjohn

Does it have some alternate meaning to "gay," though? Because if this festival gets one word longer every year people are going to lose interest.

Azureus

I saw this last night..that LGBT was being called LGBTQ now and had to look it up to verify the Q meant queer. Fair play to them reclaimuing the word and turning it on its head an all that, but if they wanna add a letter for every word thats slang for gay the acronym is gonna lose its catchiness!

Pherekydes

Can we have a hetero, white, male pride festival? I'm guessing no.

El Horseboxo

I can get away with saying n1gga. It's pretty much only white people that can't get away with using it.

I've a gay mate and he said not all gays are queers.

mikemac

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Queer is an acceptable term among the ghay community just as the word n******r is acceptable among the dhuine gorm community.

Gorm is blue
Did you mean dubh?

Dun

That's the Irish for a black person - duine gorm.

Dunjohn

mikemac wrote: »

Gorm is blue
Did you mean dubh?

No... those stars don't add up to the "n" word.

I'm still working on that post.

mikemac

Dun wrote: »

That's the Irish for a black person - duine gorm.

Ah, I stand corrected

I was translating it word for word and not the phrase

greendom

Azureus wrote: »

I saw this last night..that LGBT was being called LGBTQ now and had to look it up to verify the Q meant queer. Fair play to them reclaimuing the word and turning it on its head an all that, but if they wanna add a letter for every word thats slang for gay the acronym is gonna lose its catchiness!

The same happened with the term "gay" didn't it ? That turned out to be pretty successful !

Pherekydes

Daoine Gorm is the Irish term for coloured people.

TheZohanS

It adds a bit of colour to the city, hope the weather stays nice for them.

artanevilla

Straight pride ftw!

AckwelFoley

Azureus wrote: »

I saw this last night..that LGBT was being called LGBTQ now and had to look it up to verify the Q meant queer. Fair play to them reclaimuing the word and turning it on its head an all that, but if they wanna add a letter for every word thats slang for gay the acronym is gonna lose its catchiness!

If there are enough letters in it perhaps they can unscramble a word from it

LGBTQ...Hmmm *scratches head*

Azureus

greendom wrote: »

The same happened with the term "gay" didn't it ? That turned out to be pretty successful !

Yeah but are they gonna add to it for every slang word? For arguments sake 'creamer' 'fag' 'fairy'... already after three we have LGBTQFCF...might as well just bash my keyboard for a few minutes and call it an acronym for lesbian gay bi and transgender.

Spacedog

Pherekydes wrote: »

Can we have a hetero, white, male pride festival? I'm guessing no.

You are free to organise one.
Not sure many would join your Hetro-white supremacist-sausage-fest rally though.

AckwelFoley

TheZohan wrote: »

It adds a bit of colour to the city, hope the weather stays nice for them.

..in a New Orleans Creol way or a San Francisco way..

arybvtcw0eolkf

I'm not suggesting we all turn gay for the weekend, but if you like to party this is the weekend to do it.

Gay Pride is a brilliant weekend in Dublin, love it.

Kevin Duffy

snyper wrote: »

If there are enough letters in it perhaps they can unscramble a word from it

LGBTQ...Hmmm *scratches head*

Well it'll need a "U" to go with the "Q", so next year they'll have to invite people making up their minds, the Unsure.

Corsendonk

Pherekydes wrote: »

Can we have a hetero, white, male pride festival? I'm guessing no.

With bedsheets?

TheZohanS

Pherekydes wrote: »

Can we have a hetero, white, male pride festival? I'm guessing no.

Ah sure we have that every weekend!

snyper wrote: »

..in a New Orleans Creol way or a San Francisco way..

In a rainbow sort of way.

stovelid

I'm all for inclusivity but the length of the festival title is getting out of control.

By 2015, all the posters will have to be in landscape format.

ejmaztec

I'm having a BLT weekend.

Badgermonkey

TheZohan wrote: »

In a rainbow sort of way.

By Rainbow, presumably you're alluding to a Bear and a pink Hippo.

bonerm

snyper wrote: »

Queer pride festival.. thought "queer" was an offensive term?

Yeah, and that's another thing! I resent those people using that word. That's our word for making fun of them! We need it!! Well I'm taking back our word, and I'm taking back my son!

Barna77

^ I prefer fag squad :pac:

Gay pride... meh...

Azureus wrote: »

I saw this last night..that LGBT was being called LGBTQ now and had to look it up to verify the Q meant queer. Fair play to them reclaimuing the word and turning it on its head an all that, but if they wanna add a letter for every word thats slang for gay the acronym is gonna lose its catchiness!

http://twitter.com/#!/textcos/status/79582652608425984

http://yada.wikia.com/wiki/QUILTBAGPIPE

Pherekydes

Spacedog wrote: »

You are free to organise one.
Not sure many would join your Hetro-white supremacist-sausage-fest rally though.

Woah, there Nellie. Who said anything about supremacist?

stovelid

Spacedog wrote: »

Not sure many would join your Hetro-white supremacist-sausage-fest rally though.

It sounds like you have become what you profess to hate.

mikom

Spacedog wrote: »

You are free to organise one.
Not sure many would join your Hetro-white supremacist-sausage-fest rally though.

The GAA begs to differ.

KnifeWRENCH

Azureus wrote: »

I saw this last night..that LGBT was being called LGBTQ now and had to look it up to verify the Q meant queer. Fair play to them reclaimuing the word and turning it on its head an all that, but if they wanna add a letter for every word thats slang for gay the acronym is gonna lose its catchiness!

LGBT is outdated and non-inclusive. QUILTBAGPIPE is where we're at now!

http://yada.wikia.com/wiki/QUILTBAGPIPE

Oh and as an LGBT person myself I can't stand "Gay Pride". It has very little to do with marching for civil rights anymore, it's mostly just an excuse to get drunk and perpetuate the stereotypes that all gay men are camp, all gay women are butch and all trans people are like drag queens. :rolleyes:

arybvtcw0eolkf

KnifeWRENCH wrote: »

Oh and as an LGBT person myself I can't stand "Gay Pride". It has very little to do with marching for civil rights anymore, it's mostly just an excuse to get drunk and perpetuate the stereotypes that all gay men are camp, all gay women are butch and all trans people are like drag queens. :rolleyes:

Do you not think it also show's people that its ok to flaunt those things too?.

I remember working door's years ago when clubs had maybe one 'gay night' per month, and it was always referred to with a snigger.

Now people feel free to celebrate their homosexuality, although I'm straight and I might have a different outlook on it than you - but I think its great.

Chuchoter

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l1ah5p1j241qzu1fpo1_500.jpg
This.


Otherwise, I'm not a huge person for pride. I don't think its serves its purpose anymore. It should be more political. I also dislike how big the acronym is getting, especially when they go putting in a for allies (yes straight people, you too can join our acronym).

Makikomi
Do you not think it also show's people that its ok to flaunt those things too?.

I remember working door's years ago when clubs had maybe one 'gay night' per month, and it was always referred to with a snigger.

Now people feel free to celebrate their homosexuality, although I'm straight and I might have a different outlook on it than you - but I think its great.

I think pride has turned into an excuse for straight people to point and laugh. Like last year, all my straight friends went and spent the whole things making fun of one of my friends there. I didn't even go and I'm the only gay one there.

Badgermonkey

crayolastereo wrote: »

I think pride has turned into an excuse for straight people to point and laugh.

I think KnifeWrench's point was that the march is not truly representative of the wider gay community, though many straight folk assume it to be so.

Chuchoter

Badgermonkey wrote: »

I think KnifeWrench's point was that the march is not truly representative of the wider gay community, though many straight folk assume it to be so.

I know, I agree with him. People might say that most people look totally normal, but as you say, straight people are going to assume that the pictures of drag queens and naked men printed in the paper are representative of us.

arybvtcw0eolkf

crayolastereo wrote: »

I think pride has turned into an excuse for straight people to point and laugh. Like last year, all my straight friends went and spent the whole things making fun of one of my friends there. I didn't even go and I'm the only gay one there.

You can't say that about all straight people based on the attitudes and actions of a group of ignorant arseholes.

I'm still working the door's, in a well known rock & metal bar - which isn't the place you'd normally associate gay tolerant people, but I can honestly say with my hand on heart that if that carry on went on in there your straight friends would be put in their place fairly quickly - honest they sound like pricks.

I've a thread from about two months back (don't ask me to use boards.ie awful search engine to find it) about a gay bashing which happened outside the bar.. People in the bar were genuinely shocked & upset that this lad (who was very obviously gay) got beat up for being gay.

I don't think there'll be any pink leathers, or jeans worn tonight, or pink ribbons in pony tails - but no one will point and laugh either.

rainbow kirby

I prefer QUILTBAGPIPE. :pac:

Badgermonkey

crayolastereo wrote: »

straight people are going to assume that the pictures of drag queens and naked men printed in the paper are representative of us.

I'm not gay and don't have any friends/colleagues who are (to the best of my knowledge).

The stereotypes - camp men, butch women, seem a minority who exert a disproportionate influence on gay culture and by extension the 'straight' perception of the gay community.

Why is that so? Is it because they are more militant or simply more vocal/visible?

CitizenKeane

mikom wrote: »

The GAA begs to differ.

:rolleyes:

The O Hailpíns? Jason Sherlock? Donal Og Cusack?

KnifeWRENCH

Imani Scarce Ghost wrote: »

Do you not think it also show's people that its ok to flaunt those things too?.

I remember working door's years ago when clubs had maybe one 'gay night' per month, and it was always referred to with a snigger.

Now people feel free to celebrate their homosexuality, although I'm straight and I might have a different outlook on it than you - but I think its great.

I don't see why sexuality is something to be "flaunted", though. At least not under the banner of some misguided notion that you're battling homophobia. I don't like campness but I've no problem with people behaving that way if that's how they are; live and let live. But when they're acting as if they're representative of LGBT people as a whole....that is what annoys me about these pride marches.

I'm not saying Pride should be banned or anything; it probably is a positive experience for many people. I just think it's counterproductive and implies that LGBT people are some form of alien species rather than showing that we're just normal folk who happen to be gay or bi or trans. And the way the media protray it doesn't help; you don't see the regular folk marching in the newspapers. Instead, you see the topless guys wearing thongs and drag queens in rainbow coloured dresses, and this is the image people get of what being gay means.

I don't celebrate my sexuality, nor is it something I'm proud of (which is why the name Pride really annoys me.) That doesn't mean I'm ashamed of it though, because I'm not. But it's not an accomplishment or an achievement so why should I be proud? I just don't think sexuality should be something that defines people, and that's why pride is not for me.

Antisocialiser

CitizenKeane wrote: »

:rolleyes:

The O Hailpíns? Jason Sherlock? Donal Og Cusack?

Ladies football, Camogie also

Dun

Badgermonkey wrote: »

I'm not gay and don't have any friends/colleagues who are (to the best of my knowledge).

The stereotypes - camp men, butch women, seem a minority who exert a disproportionate influence on gay culture and by extension the 'straight' perception of the gay community.

Why is that so? Is it because they are more militant or simply more vocal/visible?

Because they stick out like a sore thumb!

Rachiee

think the Q was added to LGBT for people who felt like a member of the community but didnt identify themselves with the labels lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender.

I thinks its about being inclusive as well as reclaiming the word it does seem a bit silly to me though.

many lesbians have also reclaimed the word dyke but again its still extrememly offensive for anyone other than a lesbian to use it, and many lesbian are still uncomfortable with it havingnever reclaimed it.

superfish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqSlPQkz9Sw

mikom

CitizenKeane wrote: »

:rolleyes:

The O Hailpíns? Jason Sherlock? Donal Og Cusack?

United Colors of Benetton altogether.

StupidLikeAFox

Rachiee wrote: »

think the Q was added to LGBT for people who felt like a member of the community but didnt identify themselves with the labels lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender.

Shouldnt the whole thing be against labelling people?

arybvtcw0eolkf

KnifeWRENCH wrote: »

I don't see why sexuality is something to be "flaunted", though. At least not under the banner of some misguided notion that you're battling homophobia. I don't like campness but I've no problem with people behaving that way if that's how they are; live and let live. But when they're acting as if they're representative of LGBT people as a whole....that is what annoys me about these pride marches.

I'm not saying Pride should be banned or anything; it probably is a positive experience for many people. I just think it's counterproductive and implies that LGBT people are some form of alien species rather than showing that we're just normal folk who happen to be gay or bi or trans. And the way the media protray it doesn't help; you don't see the regular folk marching in the newspapers. Instead, you see the topless guys wearing thongs and drag queens in rainbow coloured dresses, and this is the image people get of what being gay means.

I don't celebrate my sexuality, nor is it something I'm proud of (which is why the name Pride really annoys me.) That doesn't mean I'm ashamed of it though, because I'm not. But it's not an accomplishment or an achievement so why should I be proud? I just don't think sexuality should be something that defines people, and that's why pride is not for me.

Maybe it would help if you weren't so uptight, relax and have the craic.

Its all it is, is a bit of craic.. No need to go getting militant or uptight over it.

St.Patricks day is the same, how many tee shirts and hats etc say 'Proud to be Irish' etc - the day is about having the craic, not feeling any particular pride in what you are.

Anyway, I've said my bit on it.. As a straight bloke I love Gay Pride for the craic of it all.

CitizenKeane

mikom wrote: »

United Colors of Benetton altogether.

What point are you trying to make?
You inferred that the GAA is exclusively a white, male, straight organisation.
I pointed out 3 high profile examples that make rubbish of your accusation. I'm sure there are hundreds of other less well-known examples.