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Chaos training

  • 17-06-2011 12:00am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭


    I was at The garage yesterday and was reading "Mens Health" magazine, and read an intersting Article with the actor from the film Thor, Chris Hemsworth ,with how he trained for the film

    Obviously it involved alot of eating clean food when he was not hungry, but he mentioned the idea of "Chaos traiing". Never heard that term before.

    It is basically the idea of never having the same weight training session, changing it or at least changing the speed or the reps to tricks the muscles in to building bigger muscles?

    Could you apply "Chaos training " to a simple "strong lifts 5x5" programme? just change the speed ,reps or do you need to be donig a dozens different excersices per week?

    Is it a bad or a good way to train? Has anyone tried it out?


    If anyone wants to add the science bit, feel free :p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭Burkatron


    It is basically the idea of never having the same weight training session, changing it or at least changing the speed or the reps to tricks the muscles in to building bigger muscles?
    See cross fit, Gym Jones or caveman training! Im sure there's other brand names out there!! I think OPT has his own brand now??
    Could you apply "Chaos training " to a simple "strong lifts 5x5" programme? just change the speed ,reps or do you need to be donig a dozens different excersices per week?

    You could but then it becomes something different. There's plenty of modified 5x5's out there but stick with the 1's that work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭cc87


    Theres nothing in it that will trick muscles to grow bigger.

    If you apply it to Stronglifts 5x5, then you are not doing Stronglifts 5x5. You are doing your own programme.

    The celebrity training regimes that magazines like mens health publish usually are far from what the celebrity actually does, i could be wrong but i think Jason Statham once made Mens Health publish an apology for an article they did on his training methods.They made out he trained like a tool, he doesnt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,900 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Burkatron wrote: »
    See cross fit, Gym Jones or caveman training! Im sure there's other brand names out there!! I think OPT has his own brand now??
    I don't think its anything like those training systems. It's much more like strongman train from what i can gather.
    It is basically the idea of never having the same weight training session, changing it or at least changing the speed or the reps to tricks the muscles in to building bigger muscles?

    Could you apply "Chaos training " to a simple "strong lifts 5x5" programme? just change the speed ,reps or do you need to be donig a dozens different excersices per week?
    That's not what it is.
    Applying that to 5x5 basically not doing either system.

    If you want to know what it is read the book. Chaos Training by Jim Smith.
    Not some article in mens health, where they paraphrase a actor, who may or may not have done this during the film.

    This is a sample of whats in the book according to Wendler (taken from elitefts.com)
    • Odd object Olympic lifting (kegs, sandbags)
    • Strongman Training
    • Sport Specific Grip Strength
    • Bodyweight Training
    • Periodization models
    • The weirdest and most painful foam rolling method I have ever seen.

    And here is the actual author.
    Sport, by nature, is also dictated moment to moment, by randomness and the athlete�s reaction to this randomness. A small change in play, a step too late, a push from the side can all radically change the ongoing sequence of events. The athlete must intuitively react and then make decisions in a split second.
    ...
    The majority of strength training means by which we build and develop strength and speed have, up to this point, been limited to stationary movement patterns that are linear and predictable in nature. Adding general specific exercises that potentially address the adaptations required to randomly execute full range movements will compliment your current foundational strength training strategies. If we can strengthen the athlete in response to random stimuli we will be able to further bridge the gap between our strength training adaptations and sports performance.

    Take from that what you will


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    If we can strengthen the athlete in response to random stimuli we will be able to further bridge the gap between our strength training adaptations and sports performance.

    Is he suggesting that by changing the rep scheme and exercise selection, he can give the athlete quicker reactions and a better ability to respond on the field?!?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,900 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    No the rep scheme was a misunderstanding on behalf of the OP.
    I believe, from my reading, is that he is suggesting things such as lifting irregular objects. The unpredictable nature of it being the random stimuli


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