Failing Maths...

Iceboy

I am really starting to get worried now, I feel I may have failed the ordinary maths paper, I was never really that good at maths and I put alot of my effort into paper 1 but the paper this year was really weird and not like the other years so it didn't go to well, paper 2 wasn't great either.

So what happens if I open my results in august and I have passed everything besides maths? Does this mean I have to do my whole leaving again!? Because most courses (that I want to do) require maths.

randylonghorn

Iceboy wrote: »

I am really starting to get worried now, I feel I may have failed the ordinary maths paper, I was never really that good at maths and I put alot of my effort into paper 1 but the paper this year was really weird and not like the other years so it didn't go to well, paper 2 wasn't great either.

So what happens if I open my results in august and I have passed everything besides maths? Does this mean I have to do my whole leaving again!? Because most courses (that I want to do) require maths.

Some college offer a 'make-up' exam in August / September for those who fail maths; if you pass this, it is the equivalent of LC Maths (depending on how you do even to an Hons grade *I think*).

Look into this *after* you're finished up; forget about it for now!

You may not have done half as badly as you think ... you're not aware of the marking schemes (no-one is, as they haven't been set in stone yet) and I have no doubt that some adjustment will be made on the questions which tended to bamboozle most people.

MLM1

Irish colleges require you to attain all six of your points scoring grades in one sitting of the leaving cert but subjects required for matriculation can be attained independently. So no you wont re-sit the entire exam unless you feel an elevated contribution from maths would increase your total points.

It's all over in a week and we'll all still be breathing in July so dont worry buddy:)

TheReverend

Iceboy wrote: »

I am really starting to get worried now, I feel I may have failed the ordinary maths paper, I was never really that good at maths and I put alot of my effort into paper 1 but the paper this year was really weird and not like the other years so it didn't go to well, paper 2 wasn't great either.

So what happens if I open my results in august and I have passed everything besides maths? Does this mean I have to do my whole leaving again!? Because most courses (that I want to do) require maths.

You could do a PLC in september instead of going straight to college, I failed my LC pretty badly, was also really bad at maths, however managed to get 480 points by doing a PLC instead.
It aint all over just because you did badly

Naikon

You could do a FETAC level 5 course and use that instead of the LC to gain entry to college. I know a guy who went that route and graduated with a first class honours science degree:)

The LC isn't your friend. If it does not go your way, work around the system. It can be done. Why not apply to the Open University too? You can get a respectable degree without any entry requirements. Be warned, you will still need to work hard.

For example, you could do an OU course and bring your maths up to scratch in that course without repeating LC maths. They don't discriminate entry if you are willing to work from the start: http://www.open.ac.uk/

DufferO8

what about English? I feel I messed up

answer me

Do Plc courses accept a fail in maths??????
Does it matter what course it is?

Cat Melodeon

answer me wrote: »

Do Plc courses accept a fail in maths??????
Does it matter what course it is?

Most PLC courses will take you on regardless of your scores once you can convince them that you will work hard and complete the course. They are set up for adult learners and places are reserved for people with no second-level education at all, so missing an LC subject here and there may not matter. This of course is in some way dependent on the course you want to take. If it is heavily Maths-based, they may want you to do some catch up classes either before or concurrent with the course.

Not all PLC courses can be used to get into uni either. Different university courses have different links to PLC courses. Eg, if you want to do a nursing degree, there are nursing studies PLC courses that link in to the different degrees. If you want to study Art, there are Art Portfolio courses. If you want to do engineering, there are courses in construction studies or Architectural technology. Obviously if you want to do engineering you can't do an Art PLC course - the PLC course has to be approved by the uni/IT for progression to their courses.

Uni/IT places from PLC courses are also competitive - you do need to be aiming for Distinctions/Merits on the PLC course to successfully get in to college afterwards. As it's a more specialised course in one major area of study, if you've chosen the right subject to study it shouldn't be too difficult to get on. It's good preparation for college too.

Requirements are different for each college too, eg LIT accepts Foundation Maths and even gives points for it whereas some other colleges don't recognise Foundation Level Maths at all.

I wouldn't stress about it until you actually have your results in hand, but do be aware that the Leaving Cert is not the only way to get into college. Doing a PLC course first is a perfectly normal way of progressing too, and for some students it is an easier stepping stone (socially and emotionally and possibly academically) from school to college life, regardless of what they got on their LC.

answer me

Cat Melodeon wrote: »

Most PLC courses will take you on regardless of your scores once you can convince them that you will work hard and complete the course. They are set up for adult learners and places are reserved for people with no second-level education at all, so missing an LC subject here and there may not matter. This of course is in some way dependent on the course you want to take. If it is heavily Maths-based, they may want you to do some catch up classes either before or concurrent with the course.

Not all PLC courses can be used to get into uni either. Different university courses have different links to PLC courses. Eg, if you want to do a nursing degree, there are nursing studies PLC courses that link in to the different degrees. If you want to study Art, there are Art Portfolio courses. If you want to do engineering, there are courses in construction studies or Architectural technology. Obviously if you want to do engineering you can't do an Art PLC course - the PLC course has to be approved by the uni/IT for progression to their courses.

Uni/IT places from PLC courses are also competitive - you do need to be aiming for Distinctions/Merits on the PLC course to successfully get in to college afterwards. As it's a more specialised course in one major area of study, if you've chosen the right subject to study it shouldn't be too difficult to get on. It's good preparation for college too.

Requirements are different for each college too, eg LIT accepts Foundation Maths and even gives points for it whereas some other colleges don't recognise Foundation Level Maths at all.

I wouldn't stress about it until you actually have your results in hand, but do be aware that the Leaving Cert is not the only way to get into college. Doing a PLC course first is a perfectly normal way of progressing too, and for some students it is an easier stepping stone (socially and emotionally and possibly academically) from school to college life, regardless of what they got on their LC.

Thanks that is great help.
I dont know what i want to do in college so i think if i do a plc i will try out differnt courses.

rainbowtrout

TheReverend wrote: »

You could do a PLC in september instead of going straight to college, I failed my LC pretty badly, was also really bad at maths, however managed to get 480 points by doing a PLC instead.
It aint all over just because you did badly

The maximum number of points you can get in a PLC course is 400.


OP, don't worry about it until august. You might have done better than you think. If not, you can repeat maths or you can do a PLC and go to college that way.

Iceboy

rainbowtrout wrote: »

The maximum number of points you can get in a PLC course is 400.


OP, don't worry about it until august. You might have done better than you think. If not, you can repeat maths or you can do a PLC and go to college that way.

In what way exactly could I repeat maths, could it be done through the leaving again by itself or for a college? And is it only a select few colleges who let you repeat the maths

rainbowtrout

Iceboy wrote: »

In what way exactly could I repeat maths, could it be done through the leaving again by itself or for a college? And is it only a select few colleges who let you repeat the maths

It depends on what you want. Like randylonghorn said, some of the colleges have a maths exam in august/september for those who have applied for a course but failed maths.

You could repeat maths in a regular school or as an external candidate where you don't go back to school but you sit the exam and study by yourself/get grinds etc.

If you do a PLC and apply to the CAO using your PLC course you can do a maths module as part of the PLC and that will be accepted as meeting the maths entry requirement for most courses accepting PLC students.

Or if you do a PLC you could repeat LC maths alongside it. This would be common enough in my experience.

There's lots of choice there, but again don't worry about it until August. The worst may not have happened.

answer me

If you fail maths in the lc can you go to college.They say if u fail maths you cant go to college,but how come some courses say they don't require maths so does that matter if you failed it or not in the lc.Just need to clear this up????????

TheReverend

rainbowtrout wrote: »

The maximum number of points you can get in a PLC course is 400.


OP, don't worry about it until august. You might have done better than you think. If not, you can repeat maths or you can do a PLC and go to college that way.

no it isnt :P, on a level 5 course yes but not on a level 6

FionnK86

Well, how did you get on?!