Ford Fiesta Style - Speakers are extra?!

Jackobyte

Bought a Ford Fiesta there a bit back. Only recently we noticed that the speakers in the back didn't seem to be working. I brought it out to the dealer as I got a 3 year warranty with it. They booked me in, saying that it was probably a software error. I went in today and they had a guy look at it. He sat into the car and got straight back out. Handed the keys back and told me everything was fine, that my car didn't come with speakers in the back, that they were extra!?!

This seems ridiculous to me. There are speakers in the front of the car and there is a speaker grille in the back doors but apparently, there is no speakers behind these. If the person in the back wants to be able to hear anything at all, it has to blare out the front speakers, deafing the people in the front.

Is this the standard now? That they cut every last corner to save a buck and hope the buyer doesn't notice until it is too late? If I see a speaker, I expect a speaker, but alas, this isn't the case anymore.

/rant

Eric Cartman

Car companies are doing this kind of thing at the moment (cruise control gone from the new passat etc..) to fit a car to a price bracket, id imagine the wiring is all there , you can get a good set of speakers bought and fitted for less than 100 euro in a lot of car audio shops , if its bothering you that may be the best option

Gophur

Go back to whoever sold you the car and tell him/her if they have any hope of keeping you as a customer they must install speakers, free of charge.

superfish

Ive had a few cars like that I always check now before buying, its not really a major issue you could buy a set of speakers in halfords for about 40 euro and fit them yourself they are quite easy to install

Stevie Dakota

The last car I owned that didn't have rear speakers was a 1988 Pug 205, we've come along way...I say less airbags and more heated/cooling/massaging seats.

R.O.R

I presume the specification of the Fiesta Style mentioned that it had rear speakers when you researched the vehicle?

FYI - Golf MKIV Comfortline's only had front speakers when launched.

CrowdedHouse

The OH was buying a new Focus recently, the 'Style' model was pretty sparse..she ended up ordering a Titanium

Anan1

R.O.R wrote: »

I presume the specification of the Fiesta Style mentioned that it had rear speakers when you researched the vehicle?

FYI - Golf MKIV Comfortline's only had front speakers when launched.

I'm fairly sure that Comfortline spec at launch (1998) included the Gamma stereo and four speakers. You're right, though, the OP should have checked what they were buying before placing the order.

Jackobyte

R.O.R wrote: »

I presume the specification of the Fiesta Style mentioned that it had rear speakers when you researched the vehicle?

FYI - Golf MKIV Comfortline's only had front speakers when launched.

Aahhh... I can't remember. I presume it didn't seeing as it didn't come with them.

CrowdedHouse wrote: »

The OH was buying a new Focus recently, the 'Style' model was pretty sparse..she ended up ordering a Titanium

Our Saab 9-3 died and it would have cost more to repair it than it was worth so we just scrapped it. We could only afford the entry model Ford. Would have loved to have gone for the Zetec or whatever the higher model is.

Jackobyte

Anan1 wrote: »

You're right, though, the OP should have checked what they were buying before placing the order.

Aye. It wasn't ordered. It was what they had in stock at the time. It was bought based on viewing in rather than on specs. We knew it was minimum specs, but I still presumed that would include speakers in the back.

R.O.R

Anan1 wrote: »

I'm fairly sure that Comfortline spec at launch (1998) included the Gamma stereo and four speakers. You're right, though, the OP should have checked what they were buying before placing the order.

Am I thinking of the MKV then? Would have been 04 or 05 when a collegue got his new company car and we all headed out to Eddie Rockets - them were t'days I tell you, them were t'days

EPM

R.O.R wrote: »

Am I thinking of the MKV then? Would have been 04 or 05 when a collegue got his new company car and we all headed out to Eddie Rockets - them were t'days I tell you, them were t'days

AFAIK early baseline MK V's didn't have rear speakers.

Anan1

R.O.R wrote: »

Am I thinking of the MKV then? Would have been 04 or 05 when a collegue got his new company car and we all headed out to Eddie Rockets - them were t'days I tell you, them were t'days

Maybe, my encyclopaedic knowledge of VAG specs only runs as far as early 99.;)

galwaytt

Gophur wrote: »

Go back to whoever sold you the car and tell him/her if they have any hope of keeping you as a customer they must install speakers, free of charge.

If I'm not mistaken, they already have him as a customer - and have his money........so what carrot are you waving, exactly ??

Oh, and OP, lol, no rear speakers: now you know it's a recession.........welcome to the '80's.......that must have saved Ford..........oh, €3 ? :rolleyes:

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Jackobyte wrote: »

Bought a Ford Fiesta there a bit back. Only recently we noticed that the speakers in the back didn't seem to be working. I brought it out to the dealer as I got a 3 year warranty with it. They booked me in, saying that it was probably a software error. I went in today and they had a guy look at it. He sat into the car and got straight back out. Handed the keys back and told me everything was fine, that my car didn't come with speakers in the back, that they were extra!?!

This seems ridiculous to me. There are speakers in the front of the car and there is a speaker grille in the back doors but apparently, there is no speakers behind these. If the person in the back wants to be able to hear anything at all, it has to blare out the front speakers, deafing the people in the front.

Is this the standard now? That they cut every last corner to save a buck and hope the buyer doesn't notice until it is too late? If I see a speaker, I expect a speaker, but alas, this isn't the case anymore.

/rant

Hold on a second, we are talking about a fiesta, not a stretched limo. Blaring is a bit of an exaggeration to say the least.

Jackobyte

Danny Melodic Drain wrote: »

Hold on a second, we are talking about a fiesta, not a stretched limo. Blaring is a bit of an exaggeration to say the least.

It has to be above a comfortable level for the people in the front for people in the back to hear it for talk-shows, news-broadcasts, anything that involves talking.

Think I might see what Halfords can do.

Eric Cartman

dont bother with halfrauds , if your in dublin go to safesounds or asidec or similar, theyll fit you a set of decent pioneer or clarion speakers for under 100, halfrauds will sell you some vibe or fusion sh*te

mickdw

I dont find it so unreasonable that there are no speakers in the back. Its a small cheap car and if your car is a fairly basic spec, its no great surprise

GTE

Anan1 wrote: »

I'm fairly sure that Comfortline spec at launch (1998) included the Gamma stereo and four speakers. You're right, though, the OP should have checked what they were buying before placing the order.

The bog spec Mark IV's dont have them. Ie. Mine
1998 to 2000 at least.
I wonder would the wiring be there. . .
Ill have to check the back of the radio again.

Jackobyte

Eric Cartman wrote: »

dont bother with halfrauds , if your in dublin go to safesounds or asidec or similar, theyll fit you a set of decent pioneer or clarion speakers for under 100, halfrauds will sell you some vibe or fusion sh*te

In Limerick. Halfords is the only place I know of in Limerick.

mickdw wrote: »

I dont find it so unreasonable that there are no speakers in the back. Its a small cheap car and if your car is a fairly basic spec, its no great surprise

Our other car, an 01 Opel Agila, arguably one of the worst cars ever made (Ok, that's a bit of an over-exaggeration :P) has rear speakers.

Eric Cartman

Jackobyte wrote: »

In Limerick. Halfords is the only place I know of in Limerick.


Our other car, an 01 Opel Agila, arguably one of the worst cars ever made (Ok, that's a bit of an over-exaggeration :P) has rear speakers.

ahh ok, stick to main brands like pioneer, kenwood, sony and clarion for speakers though

ShadowHearth

CrowdedHouse wrote: »

The OH was buying a new Focus recently, the 'Style' model was pretty sparse..she ended up ordering a Titanium

she must be foreing then so!

sorry could not ressist . irish person buying a car with higher then paddy spec is very rare.

on topic, i think op problem is not that he needs to install speakers, but problem is that manufacturers will soon be charging extra for light bulbs in your front lights...

CrowdedHouse

ShadowHearth wrote: »

she must be foreing then so!

sorry could not ressist . irish person buying a car with higher then paddy spec is very rare.

LOL no but she has a Zetec Connection so to get all/most of the toys that she got used to,she had to get a Titanium....10 weeks lead time too

Henry Ford III

Not defending for defending sake but the basic audio setup is....

Radio/CD with multi-functional display, MP3 compatible, 2-line display, four front speakers, remote audio controls and AUX connection for external music devices

Owen

Eric Cartman wrote: »

halfrauds will sell you some vibe or fusion sh*te

Oddly enough, Fusion 6x9's came close to winning a 6x9 roundup of speakers a while back in an in car magazine I was reading. Having said that, all 6x9's aren't great at reproducing sound anyway.

Eric Cartman

PaintDoctor wrote: »

Oddly enough, Fusion 6x9's came close to winning a 6x9 roundup of speakers a while back in an in car magazine I was reading. Having said that, all 6x9's aren't great at reproducing sound anyway.

thats the important part , 6x9s should always be avoided, there is no excuse for them


set of those is a much better option

R.O.R

galwaytt wrote: »

.......that must have saved Ford..........oh, €3 ? :rolleyes:

€3 on each Fiesta Style built - wouldn't mind finding that type of cash down the back of the sofa

bazz26

The "Paddy" spec Fiesta Style is actually better equipped than the UK spec Fiesta Style. The Irish version gets alloy wheels and front fog lights which are not standard on the UK spec Fiesta Style.

Leonard Hofstadter

bazz26 wrote: »

The "Paddy" spec Fiesta Style is actually better equipped than the UK spec Fiesta Style. The Irish version gets alloy wheels and front fog lights which are not standard on the UK spec Fiesta Style.

That is true, but the UK version gets a/c instead, and I know which I'd rather!

The Paddy spec Titanium is far worse for standard equipment than the UK model - the Paddy spec Titanium is more like their Zetec model! The Paddy spec Mk3 Focus is disgraceful for standard equipment unless you get a Zetec - the later Mk2s have loads of stuff in Style trim!

bazz26

captainspeed wrote: »

That is true, but the UK version gets a/c instead, and I know which I'd rather!

The Paddy spec Titanium is far worse for standard equipment than the UK model - the Paddy spec Titanium is more like their Zetec model! The Paddy spec Mk3 Focus is disgraceful for standard equipment unless you get a Zetec - the later Mk2s have loads of stuff in Style trim!

In fairness run out models are usually speced up to make them easier to shift. Not many cars in the Focus class would have bluetooth, alloy wheels, etc as standard. Base model Astra, Golf, etc would have little more than A/C as standard also.

CrowdedHouse

Bluetooth is 200 quid extra on the Titanium Focus.......

Jackobyte

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Radio/CD with multi-functional display, MP3 compatible, 2-line display, four front speakers, remote audio controls and AUX connection for external music devices

Ya, that is the set up. I'd rather 2 front, 2 back rather than the 4 front though. Or instead of the remote audio controls for that matter? Reaching an extra 6 inches hardly is worthy of putting in a control in the steering wheel. Spend the money on rear speakers instead Ford. :P

Henry Ford III

CrowdedHouse wrote: »

Bluetooth is 200 quid extra on the Titanium Focus.......

Applies to the whole range, and includes usb/ipod socket too.

Zubeneschamali

Jackobyte wrote: »

Is this the standard now?

Stick your reg in here:

http://www.etis.ford.com/vehicleSelection.do

Then expand the feature list on the right. This'll tell you everything fitted to the car, including the number of speakers (8 on mine :P).

Then bookmark that page, and put your next Ford in before you buy!

whowantstwoknow

what format does it take the reg number? as I can get it to work?

Thanks
W

BronsonTB

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Stick your reg in here:

http://www.etis.ford.com/vehicleSelection.do

Site appears not to be working at the moment for valid reg's....

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Zubeneschamali

BronsonTB wrote: »

Site appears not to be working at the moment for valid reg's....

Works for me right now, no dashes, seems to accept spaces OK. 08WHxyz or 08 WH xyz and bingo!

whowantstwoknow

That's in the VIN input field?

Zubeneschamali

whowantstwoknow wrote: »

That's in the VIN input field?

No, registration lookup.

CrowdedHouse

Very good - found the OH's car on it (6 Speakers btw )

Alanstrainor

My car only has the two front speakers. It's a bogo spec polo though...what did i expect!

whowantstwoknow

FYI: If using chrome, the reg input doesnt show up!!

though it still didnt return any details on the car in question..