shell to sea - the pipe on More 4 + 1 now

Capt'n Midnight

fyi

galwayrush

Saw it earlier, some of the protesters are total nut jobs. Glad my kids never had to suffer a teacher like Maura Harrington.

Agonist

The language is mental. Glad it's not beeped though.

Hunchback

i am a dub, and am not from mayo, but i believe if i ever had to undergo the threat to my families future , coupled with the blatant disregard for law ( or flagrant bias in the favour of 'big money') that these families and communities had to under go , i too would look like a loony, i too would use foul language, and i too would fight for my future. before i watched the documentary this evening i really had no idea what was happening. i watch the news every day.

Sunnyisland

Thanks looking at it now,

Agonist

I'm for the Shell to Sea campaigners, unlike everyone I know. I'd have thought that with Fianna Fail's downfall more people would see those decisions for what they were... pandering to the fatcats and Galway Tent pals.
The protesters had to do something and I applaud them for it.

starviewadams

Great documentary,infuriating too,to see the length the state has gone to endanger it's citizens lives and livelihoods's all to appease shell.

Fair play to Pat O'Donnell,the man is a hero.

gb153

It looked like a serious case of David versus Goliath. The locals were up against a huge Garda force, additional hired in security and Shell with probably unlimited team of legal resources. Fair dues to the locals. Surprised the first thing some people commented on was the use of language. If a big foreign multi national company came into anyones backyard with no regard for the local protected environment, the safety of residents or their legal entitlement to carry out works I'm sure anyone would act they same.

clikityclak

Have seen this doc before was it shown on Irish stations though I wonder? Have met the locals involved with the struggle against Shell a few times- huge stress they are under...

Hootanany

Super Documentary, still cant get my head around why the Government let them have the rights.

corkthai

i have to say im shocked , and embarrassed at how these people were treated. I know these films might only show one side of a story, but that was shocking..
These were normal people...ignored by our own government...and as for the Gardai ? im not going to say anything...very disappointing.

Clare Bear

clikityclak wrote: »

Have seen this doc before was it shown on Irish stations though I wonder? Have met the locals involved with the struggle against Shell a few times- huge stress they are under...

I think it was only shown on TG4. I knew Ritchie from a few years ago, great guy. Fair fecks to him, this is opening a lot of doors for him now. Brilliant documentary. I wish more people got to see it though, I hope RTE will show it so more people get to see what's really going on but I doubt it at this stage.

SEPT 23 1989

Hootanany wrote: »

Super Documentary, still cant get my head around why the Government let them have the rights.

snowstreams

Its on 4od on channel4.com The only problem is that it doesnt seem to work in Ireland! All the other channel4 programs work fine in ireland and the site even says it works in the UK and Ireland.
Anyone else have a problem trying to watch it on 4od ?

tightropetom

corkthai wrote: »

...and as for the Gardai ? im not going to say anything...very disappointing.

What about the Gardai? They were in an impossible, unfortunate position imposed on them too by their political overlords and Shell. They had a job to do, and had to uphold the law. Do you think any of the Gardai wanted to be out there freezing their balls off any more than the protesters did? If protesters break they law they will be dealt with and they knew that.

tightropetom

As for Pat O'Donnell - that was a great performance. I'd say he's a man who gets things done. I must say Willie Corduff and the guy with the beard (can't recall his name just now) came across very well in the movie. I can't say the same for Maura Harrington and a few of her buddies - they were a divisive influence and unfortunately the community missed out on a golden opportunity to enter into proper dialogue.

Looks like Maura Harrington learned nothing from the Miner's Strike

brennan1979

I'm always saddened, but not surprised, by the fact that so many posters on internet forums never miss an opportunity to denegrate the people of Rossport and anyone in this country who had a problem with the way the state and Shell has dealt with the people of that area.

We really do suffer from a slave mentality in this country where a proven corrupt government gave away the natural resources that belong to the Irish people for a song to a company with one of the worst human rights records in the world and most of the country just seem to accept it.

Everytime this subject comes up the same type of people chyme in with the same comments about crusties and lefties. They seem more appalled by the behaviour of Maura Harrington than they are by the behaviour of the state and the Gardaí and the fact that our resources were stolen.

tightropetom

The behaviour of the state was shocking in terms of the planning and in terms of the way a valuable natural resource was given away for 30 pieces of silver but the Gardai were sent there to uphold the law, when force was used it was after plenty of warning.

Minstrel27

snowstreams wrote: »

Its on 4od on channel4.com The only problem is that it doesnt seem to work in Ireland! All the other channel4 programs work fine in ireland and the site even says it works in the UK and Ireland.
Anyone else have a problem trying to watch it on 4od ?

They mustn't have the internet rights for Ireland if that's what is happening. Not all programmes on that website will be cleared for Ireland.