The Joe Rogan Experience Podcasts

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122771135#Comment_122771135

It was tough to watch. One of joes strengths as an interviewer is letting his guests respond how they want without interrupting... But trump needed interrupting. The answer would go all all over the place.

Sudden Valley

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122772559#Comment_122772559

I find joe has gotten worse in some interviews in directing the guest to what he wants to talk about. I listened to the Adam Sandler one a while ago and Sandler barely got to direct any of thr conversation.

Toranaga

Humanising Trump in any way after what he's done is worse than hounding him for hours imo.

PsychoPete

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The episode with Michael Shellenberger was very bad when they brought up legalisation around drugs, Rogan just went full steam ahead

Sudden Valley

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122772704#Comment_122772704

It is funny though when the guest realise they have opened up a floodgate of nonsense opinions from Joe. Rogan really is a good advertisement for using drugs in moderation.

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122772730#Comment_122772730

Or not at all.

taxAHcruel

Oh I dunno. The guy has 4 careers any one of which would allow him to quit 3 and still have a decent income. On top of that he trains fighting a lot - hunts a lot - does archery a lot - and still has time for his friends and family. And still finds time for occasional moderate drug use.

There are people with no drugs in their life who can't put the play station controller down and get off the couch. His drug use doesn't seem to negatively affect him in any way I can discern.

As for the Trump interview - like the Theo V podcast appearance, he really managed to humanize himself on it. But that tends to be what Rogan says he wants from every podcast he does. Not an "interview" or a "debate" usually but just to talk to the human behind it all and see if he can find anything that makes them tick.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

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Im not sure what this means. Like, you mean silencing anyone you don't agree with?

Sudden Valley

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122774179#Comment_122774179

Rogan is of course loaded but I think his drug use as he gets older will have an effect on his cognitive abilities. He seems to be way more gullible too, he even surprised Tucker Carlson in their interview by saying he didn't believe the moon landing was real.

MrStuffins

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He had a similar thing with Matt Walsh. They were discussing how social media conditions you to pick up and support conspiracy theories. Rogan mentions Flat Earth and makes the point that way too many people would have to be involved to keep this under wraps and that, by now, there would be some credible sources blowing a whistle on it.

Walsh points out that the same is true of the Moon Landings……. nope! Rogan goes complete conspiracy loon and starts talking as if he was reading a speech from the Conspiracy Theories forum of Boards.ie

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122775301#Comment_122775301

Ah yes, the interview where Tucker said he believed aliens lived under ground, evolution has no proof and talked about how Alex Jones is a prophet and has him over at his "barn" for dinner.

It's a real modern day Library of Alexandria Joe has going on. In the last six months or less he has had on (and slobbered over) Terrance Howard, Billy Carson and Graham Hancock.

Sudden Valley

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122776057#Comment_122776057

i think COV19 broke the mind of Joe and now he is more receptive to any BS that he becomes aware of. I had hopes for him after he had guests on challenging Hancock and Howard but even after these episodes where both men argued their cases very badly he still praises both of those chancers.

taxAHcruel

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He has gone back and forth on the moon landing stuff over decades as far as I can discern. He does indeed have a few weird ideas on a few weird topics. But I am not convinced that has anything to do with his drug use at all. He has had such opinions for years.

But he does "check" himself often too. He will talk at enormous (and very well informed) length about UFOs and aliens coming to earth. But he very often says things about how he only talks about it so much because of how much he WANTS it to be true. And he realises that this colors his bias deeply. A lot of people lack that level of self awareness to recognised how biased they are and how much that bias is affecting them.

As for drug use as he ages - unfortunately that's a hard one to run a counter factual on. Older people often have cognitive decline. Assuming their drug use is causing it if and when it happens is just that: An Assumption. We may never know. I dabble in a few "minor" drugs on very rare occasions. It hasn't negatively affected any aspect of my life either.

Unfortunately however believing in weird things often shows no correlation with intelligence or stupidity. Some very smart people believe some very weird things.

Sudden Valley

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122776432#Comment_122776432

True enough regarding smart people believing in weird things. Regarding drug use it is hard to know what Rogan does actually take, I recall he has talked about LSD, mushrooms and DMT, just seems a dangerous cocktail for anyone's brain.

I feel sorry for Jamie, the amount of times he now has to correct Joe on some bogus facts he has read on the Internet and automatically believes.

PsychoPete

I see Rogan said Harris would go on the podcast but she'd only do an hour and he'd have to travel to her which isn't going to happen I suspect

Leslie Purkiss

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122776672#Comment_122776672

if you need Rogan to get you elected, let Trump have it. The place is beyond redemption.

Snake Plisken

JD Vance doing the podcast tomorrow so that should do big numbers as well.

taxAHcruel

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Listening to him talk he smokes occasionally and drops edibles occasionally and thats about it. He finds training Jujitsu on edibles very powerful as it makes you hyper aware of limb placement and things. I must try that myself actually as a practitioner, competitor and teacher of the sport.

He also claims the paranoia he gets on edibles and smoking is a therapeutic that keeps him grounded in a world where he is one of the more famous people in his/our area of the planet.

Can't right now think of anything he has said that suggests he takes anything else over the last decade or more. In fact he seems to have a certain level of hyper respect/caution with most other drugs. Was expressing some mild concern recently when he learned Lex Friedmann was going to go on a deep Ayhuwasca deal. And he talks at some length about people who take drugs and "Don't come back". And his phobia about fentanyl is extreme.

So yea I think there is not that much of a cocktail going on at all from what little I know as a outsider perspective. He just does too many things to be sitting around out of his head on weird trips and the like. I live a very similar private/hobby life to Rogan and I can tell you that I simply wouldn't have time to take any drug that leaves you debilitated in any way.

Can't say I feel sorry for Jamie at all. He is doing what he is paid for and doing it well. Hard to feel sorry for someone because they are being made do what they were hired to do. And he does very well out of it. He has his own stuff going on too under the moniker "Young Jamie" across Instagram and Twitch and more and Rogan occasionally pushed traffic that way. In fact Rogan could do that much more often than he does. I get the feeling Jamie asks him NOT to and very rarely asks Rogan "maybe drop a mention today".

I'd take his job in a heart beat :) Hard to feel sorry for.

PsychoPete

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Vance got decent numbers on Theo Von podcast. He was on with Tim Dillon last week which was pretty funny

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122777221#Comment_122777221

I think the ship has well and truly sailed for redemption

Island Voter

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122775045#Comment_122775045

That's exactly what he means. Being progressive and liberal now means that you support censoring anyone with problematic opinions (ie opinions you dont agree with). That is what all the "good guys" believe in these days.

MrStuffins

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122778865#Comment_122778865

Ah hayor. That's quite clearly not what he said.

Do us all a favour and bring this style of discource back to 2020 where it belongs. Maybe take a day off while you're at it!

Snake Plisken

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122778204#Comment_122778204

Missed him on Theo and Tim' podcasts I must check them out. We will see how he comes across with Joe, I don't think Joe will have the same issue he had with Trump going off topic.

PsychoPete

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122779593#Comment_122779593

Never paid much attention him but came across fairly down to earth and level headed I thought. It wasn't all politics, he did go along with jokes and a more human side to him I suppose

ShagNastii

I have to say I enjoyed the Trump interview. Have gone off the JRE after being an avid listener but might dip back in again.

The fact it wasn't measured or contrite added to it. Joe has stated the same for a potential Kamala guesting, he'll talk politics and grill some things but deep down he just wants to highlight them as what kind of people they are. Just shooting the sh*t.

PsychoPete

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122782190#Comment_122782190

I wonder if her team thought it would be an interview just trying to catch her out. I don't think it would do her any harm, it's a massive platform. I read that Theo Von asked her to go on aswell. She was on with Shannon Sharpe but only done an hour which I don't think is enough

Sudden Valley

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122783698#Comment_122783698

Rogan generally doesn't ask hard hitting questions. I know he's a fan of rfk Jr but I don't think he would stoop so low to give Trump an easy interview then go hard on Harris

PsychoPete

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I'd agree with you on that, it would cause a absolute **** storm. I think the average person just wants to know what these people are like

Sudden Valley

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122784039#Comment_122784039

But you cant know what someone is like, especially a politician, if you dont ask them hard questions. He's not a political journalist so his podcasts are not very informative on anyone's policies. When it comes to politicians I want to know what policies they are going to introduce not whether they are good at chit chatting.

I think I just gave up on Rogan as regard his interviews with politicians after his interviews with Tulsi Gabbard and RfK jr. He obviously really likes both those politicians so just gushed over them.

PsychoPete

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122784657#Comment_122784657

It's hard to keep up an act if you are doing a 3 hour unedited podcast. The policies are fundamental but I want to see some of the human side of them too. I don't expect him to hold them accountable as its not really the place. You kinda know the people hes too fond of like Kreischer,Shaffir,Schaub or Hancock that I'd avoid watching

taxAHcruel

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I would also say that it is hard to know what someone is like, especially a politician, if you only interact with them at the level of their career. Their answers are going to be intentionally or even unintentionally studied by years working at their career. In a long form conversation that is wholly or partially "off topic" I feel you get to see people in another way. I certainly see Trump more as a human being after Rogan and Theo V were done with him than I did before.

Rogan has over 2300 podcasts at this point. And on quite a number of them I have seen people who I can also find doing any number of "normal" interviews. Be it a scientist like Brian Cox being asked about science or a magician like Derren Brown being asked about mentalism or a comedian like Eddie Izzard being asked about comedy or musicians like the Black Keys being asked about music, or actors like macaulay culkin being asked about film, or fighters like Francis Ngannou being asked about work outs and throwing punches.

But 2-4 hours of just "Shoot the ****" talking with Rogan and I always come away seeing something I did not see in 50 other interviews with those people. You're not going to see many interviews with Trump where he gets all gushy about the UFC or where he breaks down parallels between talking as a politician and working as a comedian, or his feelings on UFOs and so forth.

I think Rogan's approach is that true "media interviews" is someone elses job and he has no interest in doing their job for them. I see Blindboy was saying almost the exact same thing in his recent talk with Cillian Murphy too. Everyone else can do the media interview thing with him as an Actor. He just wanted to sit with Murphy and get all gushy about art and literature.

Snake Plisken

Watched the whole of the JD Vance podcast and really enjoyed it certainly more then Trump's as he didn't ramble off topic. Only thing I found was towards the end Joe going on about MDMA for treating veterans.

Sudden Valley

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I think Hancock is a spoofer of the highest order only really enjoyed the podcast where he was being challenged on his theories. Even after watching a few of his earlier interviews with Hancock I really cant tell if Hancock is deluded or truly believes he is a victim of Big Archaeology. I dont think watching him for a few hours really told me if it is an act.

taxAHcruel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122786335#Comment_122786335

Just finished that one this minute myself.

Given how close to his heart that issue is - the fact he was only "going on" about it for 5 minutes in a 190 minute discussion is pretty restrained.

I've seen him go on about it for hours with people who have absolutely no potential to do a single thing about it.

The fact he had not one but three people in the chair - who may soon hold positions to actually and materially do something about it - and he did NOT go on at them is commendable enough.

He did not bring it up with Trump at all. Though he did later say he had intended to but just didn't get to it. In fact he almost didn't get to it in this one either. Vance was just starting to ask the time due to his next meeting with Tulsi when Rogan slipped it in.

taxAHcruel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122786545#Comment_122786545

With him I suspect it is both. I think he has been the victim of a few bad actors. Such as allegedly people asking Netflix to reclass his documentary under "Science Fiction".

I think he is deluded about a few things and he makes the kind of noises I have long come to expect from people who weave a conspiracy or "alternative" narrative. A lot of how he speaks reminds me of the Discovery Institute shills who used to peddal creationism.

That said though I do like him - he comes across as a nice guy and intelligent and informed on his field. At the end of the day all he is doing is looking at the data and constructing a hypothesis that is congruent with the data. Which is what you are MEANT to do in science. And like any good scientist he then makes predictions based on his hypothesis which are testable.

So if he motivates the field to go test them - by digging in certain places or running… what is it called, lydar or something, over those places. Then what harm?

Sudden Valley

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I think his conspiracy theory that archaeologist are hiding evidence is harmful. He could just say they disagree with him without giving them nefarious motivations. He is also not a scientist. I think an amateur in a field creating a conspiracy theory about the professionals in that field does not show the best character.

Similar to this with the two Terence Howard interviews I can't tell if he is a spoofer. The 6 hours, or whatever the two interviews totalled, didn't reveal his true character.

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122786564#Comment_122786564

It's making things up, he more or less said that there's no evidence for his ideas. Creationists have their god of the gaps, UFO bros have their aliens of the gaps and Graham has his Telekinetic, 19th century level of technology Atlanteans. His ideas aren't new, most of it is recycled guff from Ignatius Donnelly and pole shift nonsense (although he has veered away from that to a comet to explain mass destruction). Has Joe ever asked him about his book; The MArs Mystery.

He's not interested in finding the truth and applying the scientific method: he has some golden age, new agey idea of the past and he wants to mould everything around it. He has archaeology set up as some monolithic bogey man, but then turns up to sites that have been excavated by . . . . archaeologists.

If you're interested in a good critique of his work, then I would recommend this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZGp6N3AHTA

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122787613#Comment_122787613

I can't see him rambling for two hours to Trump's base. He'll be good for the tax cuts, though.

PsychoPete

Watched the Vance episode last night, a pretty interesting episode. Talking about his kids cursing was funny. I see the media and social media have ran with the "normal gay dude vote" like they didn't know what he meant. I thought Vance talking about the hotel ceo wanting illegal immigration so he wouldn't have to pay American a proper wage was insane, if its true. Felt a bit sorry for Vance when Rogan mentioned psychedelics

Snake Plisken

John Fetterman episode just dropped struggled a bit due to the close caption on his iPad at the start but they sorted it and it became a better interview. Interesting guy

silliussoddius

Did Mike Pence come up in the Vance interview?

PsychoPete

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122791982#Comment_122791982

Always great to see someone overcome health issues like that, it was going pretty good but when voter id and immigration came up Fetterman started squirming a lot

klondike99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122791569#Comment_122791569

Vance is a right square.

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122817571#Comment_122817571

It will be interesting to see what kind of role he will have in the Trump/Musk White House.

Seattle

Rogan is basically like a weather vane. His views will evolve in line with what maximises the growth of his audience.

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122877368#Comment_122877368

And the increased mushiness of his brain due to drug use.

ShagNastii

The protect our parks pods are very fun but I feel Joe really doesn't like Mark Normand.

He continually jokes to a point where he annoys the other three.

Sudden Valley

I avoid the comedians podcasts as much as possible unless its someone famous like Adma Sandler. I just find alot of Joe's comedian friends not very funny.