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neighbour not happy with sky dish

  • 13-06-2011 7:54pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭


    hi folks,

    I just got my sky moved to my new place and the man who installed it has put it too close to neighbors' and the neighbor have complained about this. when i emailed sky they said there is nothing wrong if it is installed on my property and if i want to move it it ll cost me 60 pound..My question is if the sky man installed it wrong, is it not there fault and should they not move it towards my side of the property? any help? or i just go ahead and pay money and get it moved, even-though i think there is nothing wrong i have done in this situation..:confused:

    thanks,

    aspasp1


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭robbie_998


    aspasp1 wrote: »
    hi folks,

    I just got my sky moved to my new place and the man who installed it has put it too close to neighbors' and the neighbor have complained about this. when i emailed sky they said there is nothing wrong if it is installed on my property and if i want to move it it ll cost me 60 pound..My question is if the sky man installed it wrong, is it not there fault and should they not move it towards my side of the property? any help? or i just go ahead and pay money and get it moved, even-though i think there is nothing wrong i have done in this situation..:confused:

    thanks,

    aspasp1

    in what way is it "too close" to the neighbors ?

    is it blocking their view or something ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭aspasp1


    if you look at both the house from back side and draw a centre line, the dish base is on right of the centre line (my place) and the physical dish is in the left side of the centre line (neighbour side), if you draw an imaginary line in between, the sky dish is going beyond that line in neighbour side but its base is installed on my side..if this explains..

    thanks

    aspasp1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Your neighbour is entitled to speak up
    It's better they raise this now then in a few years time.
    It isn't petty, if I was your neighbour I'd be raising the same point but in a friendly way

    Your installer is at fault. It's very clear you it's installed incorrectly. The installer should be back out at your convenience (so not you taking time off work) and sort this at no charge

    Is the installer a local man like you seen in free ads or is he a contractor working directly for Sky?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭aspasp1


    thanks guys,

    it is installed by sky company...

    aspasp1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭Mr Keek


    I'd be on your neighbours side on this one too. You'd think Sky should know better, they've put you in a hard place, I'm sure that last thing you want is a rocky relationship with you neighbour when you've just moved in.

    It would be fairly easy to move yourself, just buy a Sat finder on Amazon for a tenner. It's only 4 screws on the wall and a small hole for the cable. Plenty of youtube video tutorials about it too if you want to see how its done. Bit of filler to cover up the original screw holes up again.

    Might work out cheaper to pull out your local classifieds, you'll find a Local installer that could do the job for less.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭aspasp1


    I would not in my wildest dream think about annoying my neighbour, they are old couple,and they deserve respect... i went to them and explained that this was totally unintentional and i will try to sort it asap. and they were quite happy with that..but the cheeky sky..its their fault and they said i ll have to pay for this if i want to move it..its not i want to move it..sky guys put it wrong at first..

    aspasp1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    Tell Sky if they don't move the dish free of charge, that you'll cancel, and see how they react. I''ll bet they will then do it free.:)


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 5,532 Mod ✭✭✭✭spockety


    Sky have basically installed your dish on someone elses property.

    Call them and make this clear. They have said there is "nothing wrong if it's installed on your property".

    It is clearly NOT on your property, make sure you tell them this. Tell them it is on your neighbours property and will need to be moved at their expense, not yours.

    Ridiculous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,429 ✭✭✭dnme


    It always amazes me when people whinge about sat dishes. it's as if we all live in victorian masterpieces, or authentic french renaissance gite's.

    The reality is we all live in pretty ugly bungalow bliss plastered houses in the country. Modern Irish houses are not pretty. Bolting a dish onto them makes f'all difference.

    My last digs was a garage apartment at the back of one of these modern Irish dormer houses. Grey plastered garage witha couple of windows, in other words a n ugly modern box. I asked my landlady if I could put up a dish, she made quite a fuss, which made me laugh. Again it's not as if we were obscuring Georgian structural beauty or interfering with anyone's views.

    Most new houses are ugly. If you want an aesthetic offence, what about the classic Irish bungalow bliss with the huge remote control gates. Now that's ugly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 329 ✭✭drBill


    dnme wrote: »
    It always amazes me when people whinge about sat dishes. it's as if we all live in victorian masterpieces, or authentic french renaissance gite's.

    The reality is we all live in pretty ugly bungalow bliss plastered houses in the country. Modern Irish houses are not pretty. Bolting a dish onto them makes f'all difference.

    My last digs was a garage apartment at the back of one of these modern Irish dormer houses. Grey plastered garage witha couple of windows, in other words a n ugly modern box. I asked my landlady if I could put up a dish, she made quite a fuss, which made me laugh. Again it's not as if we were obscuring Georgian structural beauty or interfering with anyone's views.

    Most new houses are ugly. If you want an aesthetic offence, what about the classic Irish bungalow bliss with the huge remote control gates. Now that's ugly.

    This is not about appearances. The OP's dish is trespassing on his neighbours property and this is breaking the law. Ok it might not be the largest of objects but there is good reason for laws like this. Otherwise you could have eaves, windowsills, oil tanks, aeriels, etc poking into your property and possibly even the risk of heavy objects landing on you, etc.

    Thanks to the installers sloppiness, both houses are quite probably currently unsaleable. That might not be an issue right now but if you're ever trying to sell the house, things like this will come back to haunt you causing weeks and months of delays and a fortune in legal fees. It's all very well to say loosen up man, but this is the reality when solicitors and money are involved.

    Actually in the case of trees or hedges, the neighbour is within their rights to cut off whichever bits are protruding into their property, the only stipulation is that they are required to offer the cuttings back to the other owner as they remain his property. Wonder if the same applies to satellite dishes and the like!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,613 ✭✭✭evilivor


    dnme wrote: »
    It always amazes me when people whinge about sat dishes. it's as if we all live in victorian masterpieces, or authentic french renaissance gite's.

    Well here's a post-Victorian terrace in Cork with a newly installed dish in the centre and I think it’s pretty disfiguring.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭Booms


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    You'd want to be pretty slim to get down that footpath, shift it :mad:

    As said the satellite dish seems minor but when you or your neighbours go to sell it's going to be flagged as an issue.
    Best to sort this issues at that start

    Have you called Sky yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,689 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    i would not be happy either, I am sure the front of your house is large enough for a dish rather than going onto neighbours property however I find some installers think we all don't care about looks/drilling through walls etc. Its great you agree with your neighbours etc but I would take photos before anything is done because they could move it and then request money afterwards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,429 ✭✭✭dnme


    evilivor wrote: »
    Well here's a post-Victorian terrace in Cork with a newly installed dish in the centre and I think it’s pretty disfiguring.

    You're kinda missing my point here, I am arguing that sat dishes make no difference to modern bungalow "blitz" Irish houses as they are dam ugly in the first place. Now while I'm at it, I note that you don't seem to mind the misplaced white plastic windows all over the building. Anyway, apologies to OP for going off topic, I'm done with this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭aspasp1


    TheDriver wrote: »
    i would not be happy either, I am sure the front of your house is large enough for a dish rather than going onto neighbours property however I find some installers think we all don't care about looks/drilling through walls etc. Its great you agree with your neighbours etc but I would take photos before anything is done because they could move it and then request money afterwards
    there is planty of space where it can be installed but them idiots only found this place to install and annoy the neighbour...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    aspasp1 wrote: »
    there is planty of space where it can be installed but them idiots only found this place to install and annoy the neighbour...

    Show us a picture....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭aspasp1


    finally They moved it and now they can have my business...:)

    aspasp1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,708 ✭✭✭Charlie-Bravo


    Shame to see the dish was installed incorrectly.

    It seems to be the done thing to put satellite dishes on the front wall of south facing properties so differing sizes of dishes, differing colours of dishes and differing heights of dishes really do clutter the facades.

    Not many people are aware it is contrary to planning regulations to erect a dish to the front of a house!

    Planning and Development Regulations 2001
    Class 4: (b) The erection on or within the curtilage of a house, of a dish type
    antenna used for the receiving and transmitting of signals from satellites.

    3. No such antenna shall be erected on, or forward of, the front wall of the house.

    4. No such antenna shall be erected on the front roof slope of the house or higher than the highest part of the roof of the house.


    So if you are really unhappy about a dish on the front of a house, complain to the council! ;)

    -. . ...- . .-. / --. --- -. -. .- / --. .. ...- . / -.-- --- ..- / ..- .--.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭kbell


    And risk everyone in the street that has a dish on the front being served council notices to remove them and have them relocated.
    You wont be the most popular person in the neighbourhood after that.
    Nothing to be gained from telling tales, a simple conversation with the neighbour with the offending dish should be the first thing thats done.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭aspasp1


    I dont mind neighbours complain but the only issue was without even asking me how far the dish is in neighbours side every tom,dick and harry were asking if you want to relocate it ll be 100 euro. after i was pissed and had to send a harsh email to them threatening to leave them when i finish my contract in sept..finally there was someone with sense and she sorted it..

    thanks

    aspasp1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Tomk1


    kbell wrote: »
    And risk everyone in the street that has a dish on the front being served council notices to remove them and have them relocated.
    You wont be the most popular person in the neighbourhood after that.
    Nothing to be gained from telling tales, a simple conversation with the neighbour with the offending dish should be the first thing thats done.

    Don't give them ideas, after the water tax, nexted it will be a satellite-dish tax.

    aspasp1 Glad to see they corrected the incorrect installation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 427 ✭✭scotty_irish


    sky are a shower of c*nts to deal with. fight them on this and win! then tell us about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,689 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    maybe scotty you should read the thread and you will see he did indeed fight them on this and did indeed win.........


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