Another gaming build :)

dennjoe · 13-06-2011 7:03pm #1

Hey guys looking to build myself a pc for gaming purposes mostly have been doing alot of research but mainly iv confused myself!!! So the budget is €700 no need for screen mouse keyboard windows or cd drive. Would have to have full hdmi output and to play 1080p aswell.

I have decided on some parts having gone through most threads on the forum in the last 2 months (wasnt easy by the way)

http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=23029&agid=631 for the case as read some good reviews
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=24479&agid=1629 not sure about the power needed as might in the future do 2 graphics cards
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=41224&agid=1617 for processor

What i need help with is mobo, gpu, cooling fan if required and hdd that would be best, not sure if ive left anything out but am looking to play skyrim on high settings in 1080p as a guideline if this is possible....sorry for making everyone read so much i'm new to the scene

dennjoe · 13-06-2011 7:21pm

oh i have a question about hardwareversand.de aswell i have no credit card so was hoping to do the payment by paypal. My question is if i go for the option to pay by paypal if i have the money in my pay pal account will they take the money straight from the account as im hoping they will and im aware of the 3% charge aswell. and cheers again

Tar.Aldarion · 14-06-2011 2:30am

If you want one gfx get the amazon 550, if you want 2 get the xfx 750

pay by bank transfer, no 3% fee.

Mister Man · 14-06-2011 6:49am

dennjoe wrote: »

not sure if ive left anything out but am looking to play skyrim on high settings in 1080p as a guideline if this is possible....sorry for making everyone read so much i'm new to the scene

For Skyrim at 1080p, for 700 quid, you will be pushing it big time I would think. You'll have to consider a AMD Build if you want to play it at 1080p. But I might be wrong

dennjoe · 14-06-2011 7:45am

cheers tar il look into those cards, i was actually going with an x4 black edition for a good while till i came on here and looked through the various builds i really dont mind what make it is so i might go back again cheers

Monotype · 14-06-2011 9:25am

dennjoe · 14-06-2011 12:07pm

Would I be better off going with the cheaper amd x6 http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=40652&agid=1242 like this witprice motherboard instead and better ram would ye sayh the same

Monotype · 14-06-2011 12:26pm

The 2500K will give you considerably better performance. If you want to save some money, go for the 1090T instead.

I suppose if games is a priority, you could get an AMD motherboard capable of using two GPUs and a better PSU at the expense of CPU power. You might be as well off getting a quad core such as the 955 as most games won't use six cores.

dennjoe · 14-06-2011 12:31pm

Hmm good point ill have a look when I get home and throw a shopping list together.

deconduo · 14-06-2011 12:42pm

Basically its not worth it to get the X6 unless its for a budget rendering/photoshopping/3D type build. For gaming, its the i5-2500k or the X4 955 all the way. I would highly recommend going with Monotype's build, and if you want to save a bit of money you could:

-Drop to a 500GB F3
-Change case to Xigmatek Asgard
-Change GPU to 1GB 6950 or a 6870
-Change PSU to SF Amazon 450W

I would do all of the above before dropping to a Phenom II X4 955, as the performance difference between the i5 and the X4 is huge.

dennjoe · 14-06-2011 4:27pm

What I'll do is put together 2 lists one an amd the other Intel and see what ye think. One thing is iv plenty of Intel mobos recommended but no amd ones if anyone could give me some ideas. I would like to be able to oc and have maybe dual gpus in the future if possible. I won't be needing a disc drive and i calculated the delivery into it so all 700 is goin to parts if that helps

dennjoe · 14-06-2011 5:49pm

ok feel stupid now but how do ye add the basket from hardwareversand like monotype did it.

Tar.Aldarion · 14-06-2011 5:53pm

go to advanced post and click manage attachment

Monotype · 14-06-2011 6:02pm

I think that the 870 extreme 3 from asrock is pretty well rounded for a good price
-SATA 6Gbps, USB 3, two PCI-E slots (x8 each when there's two cards).
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=36056

The next step up are the 890GX and 890FX boards. The 890FX has the advantage in that you can have two x16 PCI-E slots for your cards, something which you won't see in the Intel mainstream boards. However, this will only be a minimal performance increase seen only in top cards and for the price you could get a good Intel board.

There will also be new 900 series boards released soon. I didn't read up on them much apart from that you can have SLI now (not just crossfire of ATI cards). These will be compatible with AMD's new processors when released.

dennjoe · 14-06-2011 6:04pm

ok lets see if this works

dennjoe · 14-06-2011 6:08pm

ah damn work has killed my pc sjills not working the way i planned at all

Monotype · 14-06-2011 6:14pm

There you go.

This is poorer overall than the original system.
I would strongly advise especially against that processor - it's ridiculously expensive for what you are getting. The 955 has an unlocked multiplier so you could easily change it to the same speed as the 975.

dennjoe · 14-06-2011 6:26pm

ya was just reading up on it there its not so great apparently il do another one up

Monotype · 14-06-2011 6:54pm

I had this one done out but realised that the second slot is only x4, so that would be a bad choice of board. You save a little over an intel system and some components have been bumped up. The Intel is a very good choice until we see what AMD has. If you want AMD, I think you should wait the 8 days until the real AM3+ boards are out.

This board looks good for the price.
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=48265

Interesting looking...
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=48266

dennjoe · 14-06-2011 6:56pm

heres another shot at it

dennjoe · 14-06-2011 7:01pm

ok still no good for me how did you get it to display in the actual post did you have to change the file type or anything but anyway how does that one look theres €140 to play with there so if anything should be improved let me know cheers

Monotype · 14-06-2011 7:14pm

I did a problem recorder for you but it was too big to attach so I'll just tell you.

Save your screen print as whatever in mspaint (as png or jpg...).
Attach the picture using the attachment tool.
Copy the link of the attached picture.
Use the image tool and paste in your link.

dennjoe · 14-06-2011 7:21pm

seriously thanks for going to the effort. i wont actually be ordering for another week or 2 anyway so il have a look at them when they come out

Monotype · 14-06-2011 7:21pm

That last one looks like better balanced choices and makes more sense if you want to save money. I would still recommend you wait the week for the AM3+ boards to avail of future compatibility.

Edit: ^^ Grand, you'll be able to see what's there so.

dennjoe · 14-06-2011 7:35pm

shazam!!!

Tar.Aldarion · 14-06-2011 7:40pm

Well done

minecraft is great

dennjoe · 14-06-2011 7:45pm

ha ha ya its an enormous time eater

dennjoe · 15-06-2011 4:54pm

decided to go for the intel build...till i change my mind again.not worried about being over budget but what do ye guys think.one thing i was wondering would changing the gpu make much of a difference to the system cause i was thinking of throwing in a case fan as i want to oc the cpu aswell.cheers

dennjoe · 11-07-2011 10:33pm

Hey lads i reckon iv a bit of a weird request here but was hoping ye could help me put together a build using amazon scan and pixmania as going seriously hurtin my credit card.the budget is now €1000 must include a monitor and looking to get an ssd dont care if it gets broken up between the 3 sites and if ye have another good place let me no just hoping to get the best system possible.any and all recommendations welcome and hope i havent given ye something awkward as im aware of different transport fees cheers again lads

Fluffy88 · 11-07-2011 10:59pm

Can you not buy from http://www.hardwareversand.de/ ? You won't get much cheaper than it.

As for the build, the one you have a screenshot of above is a great one. I would just add the new components your asking for to it.
Total build cost: €998.64 + €30 shipping
8GB-Kit G.Skill RipJaws-X PC3-12800U CL9 €57.51
Samsung SpinPoint F3 1000GB, SATA II (HD103SJ) €44.09
Intel Core i5-2500K Box, LGA1155 €175.58
Sony NEC Optiarc AD-5260S, SATA, schwarz, bulk €17.84
Scythe Mugen 2 Rev. B, CPU-Kühler, für alle Sockel geeignet €32.99
Antec Three Hundred, ATX, ohne Netzteil €53.03
Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 650W €68.39
Powercolor HD6950 2048MB Dual-DVI €216.05
Crucial M4 64GB SSD 6,4cm (2,5") €94.49
ASRock P67 Pro (B3) Sockel 1155, ATX €86.70
LG Flatron W2443T-PF €151.97

The monitor is a 24" one and seems to be good but I don't really know a lot about them. It doesn't have speakers if that's a concern for you. The GPU you had above isn't on hwvs anymore so you will have to go with a different one. I just took the cheapest 2GB 6950 on hwvs.
If you wanted to save a bit of money in that build, you could go for this RAM instead, you won't notice the difference with it. Bring the GPU down to a 1GB version of the 6950 as if your only running one monitor you will hardly need the 2GB version. And you could go for a cheaper case, maybe this one http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=42246&agid=631

dennjoe · 12-07-2011 3:28am

oh i no about hws alright but im going using credit card so cant use them thought i would make it interesting for ye

Monotype · 12-07-2011 9:21am

http://www.memoryc.com/computermemory/ddr3/8gbgskillddr3pc310666ripjawsxseriesforsandybridge.html

Total build cost: £810.99 (inc Delivery £20.97 and VAT £135.15)
Scythe Mugen 2 Rev.B Quiet CPU Cooler for S775/1366/1156/1155 & AMD 754/939/940/AM2/AM2+/AM3|£38.24
1TB Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3, SATA 3Gb/s, 7200rpm, 32MB Cache, 8.9ms, NCQ|£38.95
Fractal Design Define R3, Black Pearl, Mid Tower Case w/o PSU|£80.27
22" Iiyama PLE2208HDD-B, Black, Full HD Widescreen Monitor, 5ms, 1920x1080, 10,000:1, HDCP|£107.06
620W Antec HCG-620 High Current Gamer, 80 PLUS Bronze, 88% Eff', EPS 12V, 135mm Quiet Fan ATX12V 2.3|£59.09
Intel Core i5 2500K Unlocked, S1155, Sandy Bridge, Quad Core, 3.3GHz GPU 850Mhz 6MB Cache 95W Retail|£163.40
2GB XFX HD 6950, PCI-E 2.1 (x16), 5000MHz GDDR5, GPU 800MHz, 1408Cores, DL DVI-I/ DVI/ HDMI/ 2x mDP|£197.63
MSI P67A-G45 (B3), Intel P67, S 1155, PCI-E 2.0 (x16), DDR3 2133, Xfire, SATA 6Gb/s, SATA RAID, ATX|£87.20
LiteOn IHAS122-18 22x DVD±R, 8x DVD±DL, DVD+RW x8/-RW x6, DVD-RAM x12, SATA, Black, OEM|£13.99

That's about €1K including delivery. It doesn't include an SSD - you could scale back maybe the case and the graphics card to afford one?
If you want a bigger monitor, I saw a Samsung 24'' for £10 more.

dennjoe · 12-07-2011 10:25am

thats brilliant monotype i was gonna get the gpu from pixmania anyway cause they seem to have some good deals apparently was looking at this http://www.pixmania.ie/ie/uk/10028542/art/msi/geforce-gtx-560-twin-froz.html
and a 22'' is plenty i think

Monotype · 12-07-2011 10:54am

That's a good price, although only barely worth it when you add on the €16 postage.
Take a look on the the today only page on the day that you're ordering. There's usually a few £ to be saved.
http://www.scan.co.uk/todayonly/index.aspx

Edit: Hold on, that's a 560 - not a 560ti. No, that's not good value.

dennjoe · 12-07-2011 11:08am

hmm that i did not spot good catch thinking hat is back on

dennjoe · 12-07-2011 6:17pm

Total build cost: £908.84 (inc Delivery £20.55 and VAT £151.46)
Colors IT 8102C Multimedia Wired Keyboard, USB with USB Hub, Silver/Black £11.86
Thermalright Chill Factor 2 - *Tested as No1 Best Performing Thermal Paste £3.56
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro v2 - S1366/1155/1156/775/AM3/AM2+/AM2/939 Up to 130 Watts £18.74
1TB Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3, SATA 3Gb/s, 7200rpm, 32MB Cache, 8.9ms, NCQ £38.95
620W Antec HCG-620 High Current Gamer, 80 PLUS Bronze, 88% Eff', EPS 12V, 135mm Quiet Fan ATX12V 2.3 £59.09
22" Viewsonic VX2239WM Black, Widescreen, 2 ms, 1920x1080, 100,000:1, 300 cd/m², Speakers, DVI/ HDMI £114.62
Intel Core i5 2500K Unlocked, S1155, Sandy Bridge, Quad Core, 3.3GHz GPU 850Mhz 6MB Cache 95W Retail £163.40
1GB MSI GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr II/OC, 40nm, 4200MHz GDDR5, GPU 880MHz, Shader 1760MHz, 384 Cores £191.47
Asus P8P67 Pro Rev3, Intel P67, S1155, PCI-E 2.0 x16, DDR3 2200(OC), SATA 6Gb/s, SATA RAID £125.60
64GB Crucial RealSSD M4, 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s SSD, MLC-Flash, Read 415MB/s, Write 95MB/s £88.37
Coolermaster Storm Enforcer Black Mid Tower Gaming Case with USB 3.0 w/o PSU £68.52

made a couple of changes not too worried about the price what ye think

Monotype · 12-07-2011 7:02pm

You getting the RAM from memoryc? There's 5% off if you use the code in the bargain alerts thread.

I'd get the (cheaper) MSI GD53 board instead - or the GD55; the P8P67's second PCI-E slot is only x4 which is not good for multiple cards - not that you've said that you wanted more cards, but I think it's a good feature to have.

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/msi-p67a-gd53-(b3)-intel-p67-s-1155-pci-e-20-ddr3-2133-sata-6gb-s-sata-raid-atx-sli-xfire
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/msi-p67a-gd55-(b3)-2x-pci-e-x16-sli-cfx-4xddr3-2133(oc)-gbit-lan-sata3-usb30-firewire

dennjoe · 12-07-2011 7:07pm

ya il be using that deal84 discount alright

quick question whats a good alternative to the 560 ti as its not in stock right now and i was hoping to go nvidia aswell cheers

Monotype · 12-07-2011 7:10pm

Best alternative is a different brand and there's no shortage of options.
http://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/all/gpu-nvidia/geforce-gtx-560-ti-pci-e-(384-cores)

dennjoe · 15-07-2011 10:09pm

hey lads have the build pretty much nailed down now price has gone up graphics card is now http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-gainward-gtx-560ti-phantom-40nm-4100mhz-gddr5-gpu-835mhz-shader-1670mhz-384-cores-hdmi unless someone points out a problem with it. I have a queery to do with wireless pci cards now that im looking through them on scan but they arent showing windows 7 64bit combatible if anyone would be so kind to point one out to me http://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/all/networking/wireless-adaptors-(pci-pci-e)
thanks again

dennjoe · 15-07-2011 10:11pm

ah feck the msi twin frozr came back in stock since my last browse so the card is now again http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-msi-gtx-560-ti-twin-frozr-ii-oc-40nm-4200mhz-gddr5-gpu-880mhz-shader-1760mhz-384-cores

dennjoe · 18-07-2011 9:37pm

Hey lads any chance on gettin a hand picking a wireless card not sure if they will work with the 64 bit windows 7 or should I not worry about it?

Another gaming build :)

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