What's worse, rape or murder?

Scanlas The 2nd

I get the impression that a lot of people think rape is worse than murder. To me that is silly. Obviously both are awful but think murder is worse.

You hear people say things like "I could murder a beer right about now" and nothing is said of it. When someone says something similar about rape you hear people say you shouldn't joke about rape and it stirs up a big controversy but joking about murder or using the word to mean something else doesn't cause nearly as much controversy.

So why is this?

Sanjuro

Comments like 'I could murder a beer,' or 'I'll bleedin' kill ya' are throw away comments that dont actually infer that the user is going to carry out the act. Using these comments as a basis for the 'which is worse' argument is kind of a misnomer.

As to my opinion? Murder is worse. You're ending a person's life. Giving them no other opportunity to love, laugh, cry, experience anything. There is nothing worse than that.

we'llallhavetea_old

we had a thread on this awhile back actually. murder is worse imo. you cant come back from that

mikemac

Just to say OP if you're genuinely asking we had this thread a while back
I had a quick search but can't find it, maybe have a go

Anyway, it's lunchtime and I'd rape a club sandwich but the local Spar is so expensive it rapes my pockets. Besides, I need to keep fit as I've soccer training tonight and the speedy winger rapes me constantly with his superior speed

JohnMarston

To me, murder is worse. Of course its relative to the person you're speaking to. If someone is raped, man or woman, they have to live with it for the rest of their lives. If someone is murdered, their loved ones are affected, all of them, to some degree or another. But most people can empathise when someone is grieving, cos they've lost someone. Not the same with rape im afraid

Scanlas The 2nd

Sanjuro wrote: »

Comments like 'I could murder a beer,' or 'I'll bleedin' kill ya' are throw away comments that dont actually infer that the user is going to carry out the act. Using these comments as a basis for the 'which is worse' argument is kind of a misnomer.

It's not the basis for the argument. It's just an example.

People use rape as a throw away comment such as " I was facebook raped" and I find these rape throwaway comments cause much more controversy than murder throwaway comments.

Seachmall

Rape.

Victim has to life with what has happened to them and will probably never get over it and will live the rest of their life with at least some fear.

A wise man once said "There is nothing like the sight of an amputated spirit. There's no prostetic for that." and then he saved a young man's future from being raped.

wild_cat

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

It's not the basis for the argument. It's just an example.

People use rape as a throw away comment such as " I was facebook raped" and I find these rape throwaway comments cause much more controversy than murder throwaway comments.

Hence why its called a frape. Doesn't sound as bad.

Diabhal Beag

Both?

we'llallhavetea_old

Seachmall wrote: »

Rape.

Victim has to life with what has happened to them and will probably never get over it and will live the rest of their life with at least some fear.

A wise man once said "there is nothing like the sight of an amputated spirit. There's no prostetic for that."

but there's a possibility you can get over it. you cannot get over murder.

PCPhoto

A victim of Rape is left with emotional psychological and sometimes physical scarring.

A victim of Murder is left without a life.


you can decide which you think is worse yourself, Personally I believe a convicted rapist or paedophile should not be permitted to leave prison and walk free for at least 25years (no remission, no time off for "good behaviour" ...minimum 25years behind bars - no exceptional circumstances etc),

I think a convicted murderer should not be released from prison for a similar amount of time - no remission should be given to those convicted of murder.

(murderers/rapists/child porn merchants and other sex crime offenders should not qualify for remission - the time given by the judge should be the time served)

dlofnep

Seachmall wrote: »

Rape.

Victim has to life with what has happened to them and will probably never get over it and will live the rest of their life with at least some fear.

At least some fear versus Worm Food.

I know what I'd rather... (If I had to pick).

Sanjuro

Seachmall wrote: »

Rape.

Victim has to life with what has happened to them and will probably never get over it and will live the rest of their life with at least some fear.

A wise man once said "there is nothing like the sight of an amputated spirit. There's no prostetic for that."

Disagree. I dated a girl who had gone through a horrific experience. While it did affect her life, she learned to deal with it and is a brilliant, rounded, happy individual. Obviously every person deals with things differently. But to end a person's life, to me, and to her, would be far worse.

we'llallhavetea_old

here's the thread i remember, its actually murder vs paedophilia http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055968713

Seachmall

dlofnep wrote: »

At least some fear versus Worm Food.

I know what I'd rather... (If I had to pick).

I'd much rather nothingness then the fear and depression that someone must fear after being raped. That's just my opinion.

Of course, as mentioned above, some people can get passed it (to some extent anyway).

Irish Guitarist

I saw a documentary last night about a woman who cut off her fathers genitals and let him bleed to death. This woman had been abused by her father for years and the father seemed to have started abusing the womans nieces. As far as I'm concerned his crimes of rape against his family were far worse than his daughters crime of murder.

JohnMarston

Seachmall wrote: »

A wise man once said "There is nothing like the sight of an amputated spirit. There's no prostetic for that." and then he saved a young man's future from being raped.

Scent of a woman. Some film

Scanlas The 2nd

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

I saw a documentary last night about a woman who cut off her fathers genitals and let him bleed to death. This woman had been abused by her father for years and the father seemed to have started abusing the womans nieces. As far as I'm concerned his crimes of rape against his family were far worse than his daughters crime of murder.

Yea obviously. But that is not the same as she had a legitamite reason to murder her Father so the murder is diluted a lot.

smash

thebigbiffo wrote: »

there are levels of seriousness of both crimes.

There are with rape, not with murder! There's only one outcome!

dr.bollocko

It looks like this thread is gone to the dogs early so we'll leave it at that on this particular one.
If your post has been deleted it more than likely crossed the line to making light / making jokes about rape which is unacceptable.