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Can anyone identify this person?

  • 11-06-2011 10:27am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭


    Hi,

    Was recently in a house with a paiting of what we believe is an old Irishman with some historical links? But not sure, I dont even know if thi is the correct thread, anyway im sure the mods will point ime in the directon as needed. Can anyone tell me who this is?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 mise23


    Daniel O'Connell ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    I'd say O'Connell too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,384 ✭✭✭Duffy the Vampire Slayer


    Looks like it might be a young O'Connell but I'm not certain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 Louise_M1990


    I agree with Duffy, it does look like a young O'Connell. Do a quick search and compare the pics.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    ucc.2.jpg


    daniel_o_connell.jpg

    A few O'Connel pics - does it really look like him


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭premierlass


    I'm pretty sure that's not O'Connell, but the fashion seems to point to his era. I don't think it looks like any of the Young Irelanders I can think of, or Sadlier or Keogh for that matter. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 iasscarra


    That is O' Connell and I have seen this print before although I have not seen the painting...............I must research that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    young_irelanders1.gif


    Could it be earlier as the collar style on the coat collar is less modern than the YI's

    Look at Lord Edward Fitzgerald 1798

    lord-edward-fitzgerald-1.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,468 ✭✭✭Doozie


    MotteDai wrote: »
    Hi,

    Was recently in a house with a paiting of what we believe is an old Irishman with some historical links? But not sure, I dont even know if thi is the correct thread, anyway im sure the mods will point ime in the directon as needed. Can anyone tell me who this is?

    You should check for any numbers or markings on the back of the canvas next time your there, might help point you in the right direction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭JohnFalstaff


    Might it be the poet and songwriter Thomas Moore?
    Shee500.jpg


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    DO'C never had sideboards that length.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭Redr


    Definitely not Daniel O'Connell. However I was browsing in the Crawford Art Gallery in town (that's Cork) recently (as one does!) and it looks like a painting I saw of Robert Emmet.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,708 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    My first thought was Lord Edward FitzGerald.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 588 ✭✭✭R.Dub.Fusilier


    Redr wrote: »
    Definitely not Daniel O'Connell. However I was browsing in the Crawford Art Gallery in town (that's Cork) recently (as one does!) and it looks like a painting I saw of Robert Emmet.

    as you say its not O'Connell but i don't think its Robert Emmet either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭R0C


    CDfm wrote: »
    ucc.2.jpg

    This is a very interesting thread as I have spent a long time trying to work out who the man in the attached image is and I may now have my answer.

    I found the attached image amongst my great grandfather's collection of pictures, and was figuring by the clothing that it was a very old print [circa late 1700s], but no-one I showed it to could put a name to the face.

    Would others agree that my picture appears to be O'Connell?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    pinkypinky wrote: »
    My first thought was Lord Edward FitzGerald.
    Don't think he had sideboards that length either. Maybe he was on holiday though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭VW 1


    Dont think it is O'Connell or Emmet myself, I would be leaning towards Lord Edward Fitzgerald at first glance myself, a quick google leads me to believe there is a good chance


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    R0C wrote: »

    I found the attached image amongst my great grandfather's collection of pictures, and was figuring by the clothing that it was a very old print [circa late 1700s], but no-one I showed it to could put a name to the face.

    Would others agree that my picture appears to be O'Connell?

    That appears to be Edward Fitzgerald


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭R0C


    CDfm wrote: »
    That appears to be Edward Fitzgerald

    Oh, actually I think you may be right, just googled and found this image which is very close to my one.

    I found some very similar images of O'Connell also, but I think you're right with with Fitzgerald.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭DHYNZY


    Definitely not O'Connell or Emmet, probably Fitzgerald.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    slowburner wrote: »
    Don't think he had sideboards that length either. Maybe he was on holiday though.

    Should we call the original pic Elvis till we find a name ?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    A little less conversation..........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    MotteDai wrote: »
    Hi,

    Was recently in a house with a paiting of what we believe is an old Irishman with some historical links? But not sure, I dont even know if thi is the correct thread, anyway im sure the mods will point ime in the directon as needed. Can anyone tell me who this is?

    it appears to be some dude from the 18th century. anything else is mere speculation
    of course he has historical links, but whether or not he is famous is another matter. he could be from anywhere having being purchased at an auction or was he always in the present building.
    anyone with a bit of wealth could have commissioned a similar portrait.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭MotteDai


    Fuinseog wrote: »
    it appears to be some dude from the 18th century. anything else is mere speculation
    of course he has historical links, but whether or not he is famous is another matter. he could be from anywhere having being purchased at an auction or was he always in the present building.
    anyone with a bit of wealth could have commissioned a similar portrait.

    Sorry I was away for a while and havent been keeping in touch with my Boards posts. Thanks all for your feedback, your right of course it is meere speculation. I think theres a case for Emmet or O'Connell or perhaps he is as you say a rich person who was a follower of fashion set by the two. In the end we may never know. i couldnt check the picture for markings as wasnt my house and i was but a guest. The picture serves as a talking point where the owner points and creates a conversation along the lines "would you know who that is... picked it up at auction.. may never know... " etc etc..
    Still thanks for the observations i doubt ill ever answer it but how I would love too ;:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    Do you know who the artist is as that might give a clue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭Opelfruit


    Is it Eamonn O'Mumhan before he went all Hollywood?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    MotteDai wrote: »
    Sorry I was away for a while and havent been keeping in touch with my Boards posts. Thanks all for your feedback, your right of course it is meere speculation. I think theres a case for Emmet or O'Connell or perhaps he is as you say a rich person who was a follower of fashion set by the two. In the end we may never know. i couldnt check the picture for markings as wasnt my house and i was but a guest. The picture serves as a talking point where the owner points and creates a conversation along the lines "would you know who that is... picked it up at auction.. may never know... " etc etc..
    Still thanks for the observations i doubt ill ever answer it but how I would love too ;:rolleyes:

    Have you thought of asking the owner about markings and at what auction/location he picked it up at.

    I can't imagine these paintings travelled far from their original location.


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