I phone 4 or Samsung Galaxy S II ????

Michael Angelo.

Hey, I just hope Tom Dunne aint gonna crack up with this thread, Id say ye are sick of lookin at "what phone threads", I searched and got nothing useful. Im thinking of upgrading, Im wondering can ye guys and girls in the know point me in the right direction.

Iphone 4 or Samsung Galaxy S 2, I just want a smart phone....

Thanks guys

djPSB

was just looking into this myself..

from looking at online reviews people seem to prefer the S2.

Whats the most efficient way to but these phones? Vodafone or Three?? Bill pay or Prepay?? Decisons, decisions...

Diairist

how about getting a 40 Euro thing in Moore Street. Is it posible to root it? How cold I use my o2 number on it? (Thanks to any geeks who answer some of these!:D)

PogMoThoin

Michael Angelo. wrote: »

Hey, I just hope Tom Dunne aint gonna crack up with this thread, Id say ye are sick of lookin at "what phone threads", I searched and got nothing useful. Im thinking of upgrading, Im wondering can ye guys and girls in the know point me in the right direction.

Iphone 4 or Samsung Galaxy S 2, I just want a smart phone....

Thanks guys

There is no contest here, the Galaxy s 2 is brand new and is a generation ahead. The iphone 4 is last years phone and has a 1.0Ghz single core, the Galaxy s 2 is this years phone and has a 1.2Ghz dual core.

drunkmonkey

PogMoThoin wrote: »

There is no contest here, the Galaxy s 2 is brand new and is a generation ahead. The iphone 4 is last years phone and has a 1.0Ghz single core, the Galaxy s 2 is this years phone and has a 1.2Ghz dual core.

The Galaxy2 is this months phone. The Apple app store is still light years ahead of the android market in terms of quality.
It's back to the OSX V's Windows debate, you can have an all signing all dancing dell computer and a mac with will still eat it for breakfast.
iPhone 4 is as snappy as any android including the S2. As for build quality, ease of use, the iphone wins hands down.
Were only about 3mts off the iphone4.5 or 5. It won't be this years phone for long.

Ohh i nearly forgot iCloud!

seanybiker

The sammy would be my choice out of them two. Although I don't like the build quality of Samsung phones. They seem a bit flimsy.

PogMoThoin

drunkmonkey wrote: »

The Galaxy2 is this months phone. The Apple app store is still light years ahead of the android market in terms of quality.
It's back to the OSX V's Windows debate, you can have an all signing all dancing dell computer and a mac with will still eat it for breakfast.
iPhone 4 is as snappy as any android including the S2. As for build quality, ease of use, the iphone wins hands down.
Were only about 3mts off the iphone4.5 or 5. It won't be this years phone for long.

Ohh i nearly forgot iCloud!

Posted from my iPhone

:rolleyes:

Tom Dunne

Michael Angelo. wrote: »

Hey, I just hope Tom Dunne aint gonna crack up with this thread

What's it got to do with me? I haven't been a mod here for a long time.

Anyway, it is all back to the "ask a thousand people and you will get a thousand different answers".

So, the first question is what do you want to do with the phone?

Even by virtue of the fact you are asking, I don't think whether a phone is single core or dual core will matter to you.

So, what features are important to you? Do you want the closed environment of the Apple iPhone, where the OS is squeaky clean, buying songs, apps, movies and content is disturbingly easy and straightforward? Plus, there will probably be a new model towards the end of the year, making the iPhone 4 cheaper (or redundant, depending on your perspective).

Or, do you want the open nature of the Android phone where the operating system isn't quite as polished as Apple, but does the job, plus the Marketplace (where you buy apps) isn't (yet) as full as the Apple equivalent. Also, buying content is not as easy as with the iPhone.

Then of course there is the hardware specs - have a look at the Samsung website and the Apple website for details.

iwo

PogMoThoin wrote: »

There is no contest here, the Galaxy s 2 is brand new and is a generation ahead. The iphone 4 is last years phone and has a 1.0Ghz single core, the Galaxy s 2 is this years phone and has a 1.2Ghz dual core.

And what do u use them ghz for?

PogMoThoin

iwo wrote: »

And what do u use them ghz for?

Multitasking

The 2 phones will probably end up being of similar price, its a no-brainer to go for the iPhone 4 when its old tech and will be even older when Apple release the new iPhone which will be dual core.............Unless you're getting the iPhone 4 at an unbelievable price, but I doubt it.

iwo

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Multitasking

The 2 phones will probably end up being of similar price, its a no-brainer to go for the iPhone 4 when its old tech and will be even older when Apple release the new iPhone which will be dual core.............Unless you're getting the iPhone 4 at an unbelievable price, but I doubt it.

Im asking as samsung already promised dual core 2ghz phone...what for?! This war is getting crazy...

PogMoThoin

iwo wrote: »

Im asking as samsung already promised dual core 2ghz phone...what for?! This war is getting crazy...

War, what war? Thats just technology, its always progressing and outdating itself, next year they'll be faster again

iwo

In this war where both samsung and HTC want to introduce greater processor and forgett about other things, there are bugs and issues with both sensation and gs2 as they didn't have time to properly test the phones. So, they are focused on marketing bit for idiots who care more about ghz on the phone rather than rest of it. Imagine situation where samsung or HTC release 1.3ghz all these clowns would go for 1.3 because it is "better/greater" processor...

PogMoThoin

iwo wrote: »

In this war where both samsung and HTC want to introduce greater processor and forgett about other things, there are bugs and issues with both sensation and gs2 as they didn't have time to properly test the phones. So, they are focused on marketing bit for idiots who care more about ghz on the phone rather than rest of it. Imagine situation where samsung or HTC release 1.3ghz all these clowns would go for 1.3 because it is "better/greater" processor...

Sounds to me like you're trying to justify the iPhone 5 with a 1.0Ghz dual core
Truth is, Apple release phones with many bugs and issues too, they all do.

Anyone I know with a Galaxy S2 is over the moon, despite any bugs it has

iwo

I am android man

bugs/issues i noticed and read on this and xda forum:

1. laggy screens with many widgets on them
2. white pixel dot in left bottom corner when browsing in black background
3. issues witn wifi connection - poor reception
3. Battery problems
4. pink spot on camera
5. yellow screen on some devices

Auvers

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It's back to the OSX V's Windows debate, you can have an all signing all dancing dell computer and a mac with will still eat it for breakfast.
i!

hahahahahaha :rolleyes:

conor.hogan.2

If you have to get a phone now, s2 no contest.

If you wait until september, maybe iphone5 depending on what type of user you are.

amdaley28

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

If you have to get a phone now, s2 no contest.

If you wait until september, maybe iphone5 depending on what type of user you are.

The way I look at it is.Iphone 3 was last year, Then Iphone 4, Now Galaxy S2, Next Iphone what ever maybe.
Maybe seems to be the operative word here. Maybe the next phone will be the ONE.Then again maybe not
Technology is always advancing to the next level. If you need a phone now or you're a gadget fanatic like me :rolleyes: then the Galaxy S 2 seems to be the way to go. If you don't need a phone or a new contract then wait until the next Iphone.Maybe it will be better again.
Its whatever you're happy with.Some swear that a Mac is way better then a PC with Windows.I recently used a Mac which nearly drove me nuts but then again I'm used to Windows all my life.
Maybe I should change

bd250110

For right now, in this moment, the SGS II is the one to go for.
In September with iOS 5, I will probably be going back to my iPhone4 and selling the SGS II. With the introduction of iOS 5 android will offer very little. Who the hell wants a USB drive to store some of your music when you can sore all of your data on iCloud? Notifications will be sorted, for once an for all, the lock screen made useful and there will be widgets for those who can't live without them.
Im not 100% comfortable with an advertising company having all my details, tbh, so Im happy to be able to go back to iOS.

marathonic

Three seems to have the best deals but, as far as I can see, their coverage can be patchy.

For this reason, I've ordered a free Three SIM Card and will use this on pre-pay for 1-2 months. If the coverage is good, I'll get the latest phone at that point (or wait for a new model iPhone). Otherwise, I'll switch back to O2 or Vodafone - you don't want a 24 month contract with a network where coverage isn't optimal.

You could even get a meteor sim card as well to test it's coverage. Then, you'll be able to jump on the next iPhone deal immediately using whichever network offers the best deal.

amdaley28

bd250110 wrote: »

For right now, in this moment, the SGS II is the one to go for.
In September with iOS 5, I will probably be going back to my iPhone4 and selling the SGS II. With the introduction of iOS 5 android will offer very little. Who the hell wants a USB drive to store some of your music when you can sore all of your data on iCloud? Notifications will be sorted, for once an for all, the lock screen made useful and there will be widgets for those who can't live without them.
Im not 100% comfortable with an advertising company having all my details, tbh, so Im happy to be able to go back to iOS.

Whats the Usb drive for ?

PogMoThoin

bd250110 wrote: »

For right now, in this moment, the SGS II is the one to go for.
In September with iOS 5, I will probably be going back to my iPhone4 and selling the SGS II. With the introduction of iOS 5 android will offer very little. Who the hell wants a USB drive to store some of your music when you can sore all of your data on iCloud? Notifications will be sorted, for once an for all, the lock screen made useful and there will be widgets for those who can't live without them.
Im not 100% comfortable with an advertising company having all my details, tbh, so Im happy to be able to go back to iOS.

Lets copy lots of Android and Google documents features and call it iOS 5

Kenny Logins

I think you're missing the point of having USB host enabled, storage is just the most basic use.

bd250110

Fair point that Google/Android have a lot of the features of iOS 5 and iCloud, but not the seamless integration, if it works. It's nothing short of amazing that the very people who derided iOS for not having certain features now accuse Apple of copying. For me, iCloud and iTunes Air goes far beyond anything other manufacturers have implemented so far in terms of ease of use and convenience- if it works as Apple claim it will. One password, once, everything synced - across multiple devices and machines. No one else can offer anything like this at the moment.

Kenny Logins wrote: »

I think you're missing the point of having USB host enabled, storage is just the most basic use.

Well, what else would you use USB storage for, if not storing data?

Kenny Logins

bd250110 wrote: »

Well, what else would you use USB storage for, if not storing data?

USB host, not storage. Keyboards, mice, game controllers, OBDII (car diagnostics), CD burners, the list goes on... there are plenty of potential applications.

iCloud isn't anything new, a lot of us have been using Dropbox for file storage for ages, and it doesn't care what platform you use, Mac, PC, Linux, Android, iOS....

PogMoThoin

bd250110 wrote: »

Fair point that Google/Android have a lot of the features of iOS 5 and iCloud, but not the seamless integration, if it works. It's nothing short of amazing that the very people who derided iOS for not having certain features now accuse Apple of copying. For me, iCloud and iTunes Air goes far beyond anything other manufacturers have implemented so far in terms of ease of use and convenience- if it works as Apple claim it will. One password, once, everything synced - across multiple devices and machines. No one else can offer anything like this at the moment.

iTunes is the worst POS software you could ever put on a Windows PC and they force you use it. Its terrible, buggy and slow. Its codec support is dire. I can stream/transfer any format file to my Android phone and I'll find a player on the market that plays it, can't be said for iOS. Then there's sharing, I can allow my friend to copy my media files from my device, you can't share your stuff with iOS, it syncs to your iTunes only. I don't want syncing, I'll decide what I do with my device

bd250110

There are hundreds of accessories out there that connect to an iPhone/iPad. iOS supports keyboards, etc via bluetooth. Any of the peripherals you suggest could be connected to an iOS device with the right hardware/software. CD burner? Really? What is this 2001?

PogMoThoin wrote: »

I don't want syncing, I'll decide what I do with my device

Thats fine. But there are those among us who do want syncing, actual, real, proper syncing, across all of our devices. I actually use my mac, iPad and iPhone to get things done, being able to edit, modify and forward/publish my documents (all of them) from any of my devices is huge - but that is just me. I want my data and personal data secure and protected, not under the prying eyes of a marketing company or any number of hackers/malware developers.

All that said, I still quite like my SGS II, there is nothing wrong with it, or Android. It does all that I want it to do, for now. If and when iCloud and iOS 5 are working properly I will go back as it will suit my personal needs better. But each to their own.

Peter Sweeney

I have used an iphone for the last year, loads of great features but the phone reception is not a good as the competitions

superfish

galaxy s 2 would run rings around the iphone4 sure even a galaxy s would with a few tweaks

Kenny Logins

bd250110 wrote: »

There are hundreds of accessories out there that connect to an iPhone/iPad. iOS supports keyboards, etc via bluetooth. Any of the peripherals you suggest could be connected to an iOS device with the right hardware/software. CD burner? Really? What is this 2001?

I made that one up.

7Sins

I got the Galaxy 1 there last month so not exactly up with the times, t'is sweet though so by my reckonings and my reckonings are usually spot on...Galaxy 2 = Sweet x 2.

Samsung are great though, 50" Tv in living room, dvd recorder, cinema system, all Samsung aswell...updating laptop soon, think I might go....hmmm yea I suppose Samsung

Join us...

superfish

7Sins wrote: »

I got the Galaxy 1 there last month so not exactly up with the times, t'is sweet though so by my reckonings and my reckonings are usually spot on...Galaxy 2 = Sweet x 2.

Samsung are great though, 50" Tv in living room, dvd recorder, cinema system, all Samsung aswell...updating laptop soon, think I might go....hmmm yea I suppose Samsung

Join us...

hey 7sins take a look at the darky rom thread and learn how to make your galaxy even sweeter mines nearly faster than my pc now

cookie1977

bd250110 wrote: »

For right now, in this moment, the SGS II is the one to go for.
In September with iOS 5, I will probably be going back to my iPhone4 and selling the SGS II. With the introduction of iOS 5 android will offer very little. Who the hell wants a USB drive to store some of your music when you can sore all of your data on iCloud? Notifications will be sorted, for once an for all, the lock screen made useful and there will be widgets for those who can't live without them.
Im not 100% comfortable with an advertising company having all my details, tbh, so Im happy to be able to go back to iOS.

Be warned. It'll be sometime before iCloud in Ireland allows music streaming.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/8565587/Apples-iTunes-in-iCloud-wont-launch-in-the-UK-this-year.html

PogMoThoin

bd250110 wrote: »

Thats fine. But there are those among us who do want syncing, actual, real, proper syncing, across all of our devices. I actually use my mac, iPad and iPhone to get things done, being able to edit, modify and forward/publish my documents (all of them) from any of my devices is huge - but that is just me. I want my data and personal data secure and protected, not under the prying eyes of a marketing company or any number of hackers/malware developers.

Fanboi alert!!!!!
Thats it, totally disregard my valid points, I've seen it before, the "because its an iPhone" argument.

PogMoThoin wrote: »

iTunes is the worst POS software you could ever put on a Windows PC and they force you use it. Its terrible, buggy and slow. Its codec support is dire. I can stream/transfer any format file to my Android phone and I'll find a player on the market that plays it, can't be said for iOS. Then there's sharing, I can allow my friend to copy my media files from my device, you can't share your stuff with iOS, it syncs to your iTunes only. I don't want syncing, I'll decide what I do with my device

Syncing is not exclusive to iOS, I'm free to use whatever syncing method I like, I also use Dropbox, Google Documents, but there are others like Ubuntu Music that cover many platforms, see. I got a friend to install Dropbox on his iPhone, he didn't get the send to Dropbox option when he clicked on a file which made it completely useless. Forcing the use of iTunes to sync has many disadvantages.

bd250110

cookie1977 wrote: »

Be warned. It'll be sometime before iCloud in Ireland allows music streaming.

True, Im mainly UK based, but it will be a while before the iTunes Match service comes live. The rest should work fine.

Thats it, totally disregard my valid points, I've seen it before, the "because its an iPhone" argument.

I think you are being a bit unfair, to be honest. You are are equally (if not more) guilty of being a fanDroid. Im not going to say I think Android is great and iOS is rubbish, just to agree with you. I did say I am happy with my SGS II.

Kenny Logins

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Syncing is not exclusive to iOS, I'm free to use whatever syncing method I like, I also use Dropbox, Google Documents, but there are others like Ubuntu Music that cover many platforms, see. I got a friend to install Dropbox on his iPhone, he didn't get the send to Dropbox option when he clicked on a file which made it completely useless. Forcing the use of iTunes to sync has many disadvantages.

The context 'share' menu is one of the best features of Android IMHO.

PogMoThoin

bd250110 wrote: »

I think you are being a bit unfair, to be honest. You are are equally (if not more) guilty of being a fanDroid. Im not going to say I think Android is great and iOS is rubbish, just to agree with you. I did say I am happy with my SGS II.

What I listed is not exclusive to Android, Dropbox and Google Docs also work on Nokia, Windows Phone and iOS (badly)

bd250110

To say other platforms (and iOS) have had this in the past slightly misses the point. The USP here is ease of use, integration, it works straight out of the box, or at least that is what Apple are saying will happen. The idea is one log-in when you turn the device on and that is it, the device and iCloud service will look after the rest. If Apple deliver no mobile platform will be anywhere near iOS in terms of back-up and sync. When you add in iMessage and FaceTime, that is a pretty impressive feature list that can't be had elsewhere, Apple is basically gunning for BlackBerry customers here. Thats before you talk about the (subjectively) beautiful hardware, great battery life, the best mobile App store, etc.

Yes a lot of these features can only be accessed on an iOS device. What do you want Apple to do, give competing platforms usage for free too? Maybe BB should do the same?

sdanseo

A little input from myself having tried to embrace android.

I had a 3GS for a year, and swapped it for a desire HD (I got a good bargain there). Within 2 days I had sold that on and bought an iPhone 4 on upgrade.

The reason? Android drove me mad. Sluggish, buggy, memory eating, battery eating, lower build quality, lesser quality software, harder to use.

The iPhone is the best built, best feeling phone on the market today. If it had flash player, HDMI out and DLNA (2 of those three will be notched off by the end of the year with any luck) it would be the ultimate device.

amdaley28

bd250110 wrote: »

To say other platforms (and iOS) have had this in the past slightly misses the point. The USP here is ease of use, integration, it works straight out of the box, or at least that is what Apple are saying will happen. The idea is one log-in when you turn the device on and that is it, the device and iCloud service will look after the rest. If Apple deliver no mobile platform will be anywhere near iOS in terms of back-up and sync. When you add in iMessage and FaceTime, that is a pretty impressive feature list that can't be had elsewhere, Apple is basically gunning for BlackBerry customers here. Thats before you talk about the (subjectively) beautiful hardware, great battery life, the best mobile App store, etc.

Yes a lot of these features can only be accessed on an iOS device. What do you want Apple to do, give competing platforms usage for free too? Maybe BB should do the same?

sdonn wrote: »

A little input from myself having tried to embrace android.

I had a 3GS for a year, and swapped it for a desire HD (I got a good bargain there). Within 2 days I had sold that on and bought an iPhone 4 on upgrade.

The reason? Android drove me mad. Sluggish, buggy, memory eating, battery eating, lower build quality, lesser quality software, harder to use.

The iPhone is the best built, best feeling phone on the market today. If it had flash player, HDMI out and DLNA (2 of those three will be notched off by the end of the year with any luck) it would be the ultimate device.

There's an awful lot of if's in there guys and here's another. If the Iphone was that good we wouldn't be even discussing any other phone or Os but it isn't & thats why we are discussing alternatives. The Iphone could be the best if Apple would only take the shackles off the Os but we all know that isn't going to happen so we will still be having this discussion next week,next month & next year.
There will never be the perfect phone or Os whether its Apple,Android or Windows. Each system will always have something which the others would like.

holymax

IPHONE= no flash player/no radio/no..xxxx
and u need to jailbreak
Android is much better than the IOS
But in Ireland,most people would go for IPHONE because due to brand loyalty?
In other countries with better technology such as Korea/Japan more people use the SII

Vic Vinegar

Very good detailed review of the Galaxy SII here

You shouldn't get an iPhone really, their users are annoyingly smug.

bd250110

holymax wrote: »

IPHONE= no flash player/no radio/no..xxxx
and u need to jailbreak
Android is much better than the IOS
But in Ireland,most people would go for IPHONE because due to brand loyalty?
In other countries with better technology such as Korea/Japan more people use the SII

Usual rubbish from the fanDroids. Not all Androids have an FM radio, webRadio is an superior alternative, for me. True iOS does not offer flash games (not that they work well at all on touch devices) but I do have Flash video though a number of browsers available on the iOS App Store. Of course more people use the S II in Korea, the phone is from there and has been released a bit longer. Supplies of the phone are still quite tight here.

In latest news:
http://phandroid.com/2011/06/14/google-removes-10-new-malware-apps-from-the-android-market/
Something is going to have to change with Android, this situation is just not sustainable. In a lot of ways it's even worse than computer malware as these devices have one click purchasing enabled, right on the device.

cnocbui

Ask yourself what you want to do with the device then work out which will do that better.

Is size important - The SG2 is pretty big - you might find you want something a bit smaller. But if taking and viewing photos or making and watching videos is your thing, then the large brilliant screen on the SG2 may be the way to go.

As for the iCloud being a great incentive - a whole lot of 'not thinking' going on here. I suggest reading this article:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/8564093/Apple-iCloud-the-criticism.html

Maybe one day the iCloud will be a great thing, but not at the moment, and maybe never if the record labels hold out on streaming, which I suspect they might.

If you are a millionaire, fine, the cost of transferring many gigabytes isn't going to worry you but for most people it should - I'm thinking music and videos here. At 3G data rates, I would say it is way too expensive to contemplate. So if you really need WiFi access to make it usable, it's pretty pointless. Why not sync your stuff at home a lot more quickly and cheaply?

The ideas behind the iCloud are predicated on things that don't exist - and may never exist. They may get 3G data costs in the US that make this idea workable - if streming is ever allowed - but I doubt the rest of the world is going to see data rates cheap enough to make it practical. For this to 'really' work, Apple would have to buy Vodafone and have a very low data tariff for iOS devices world wide.

In the last two months I have had 3 days without a functioning phone line. Made me glad all my music and stuff wasn't sitting in N. Carolina.

bd250110

cnocbui wrote: »

Maybe one day the iCloud will be a great thing, but not at the moment, and maybe never if the record labels hold out on streaming, which I suspect they might.

In the last two months I have had 3 days without a functioning phone line. Made me glad all my music and stuff wasn't sitting in N. Carolina.

I quite agree with a lot of that link. Apple have been here before and dropped the ball massively. Beta testing suggests the functionality works well so far, so it bloody well should, it is basically a rebranded and free version of the current mobileme suite.
I think there is a bit of confusion about iCloud. It does not store, stream or interact in any way with your music or media. It syncs Mail, Contacts, Calendars, Documents and the like between all your iOS/PC devices. Only these items will be stored in the cloud.
iTunes in the Cloud is a separate product ($29.99 annually in the US), but part of iOS 5 and iCloud. That will store copies of all your music and allow you to download whatever you like, on demand, if you want it while out and about. The originals will still be on your home PC/Mac/Media Centre.
Your iOS device will still sync (over local WiFi network) with your PC/Mac, that is not going to change, much like happens today, just wirelessly.

Foxhole Norman

No mention of WP7?

cnocbui

bd250110 wrote: »

I think there is a bit of confusion about iCloud. It does not store, stream or interact in any way with your music or media.

Er, you are wrong.

bd250110

cnocbui wrote: »

Er, you are wrong.

Just double checked. Only music that has been purchased in iTunes will be "pushed" to your other devices. Music will not be stored in your iCloud, but you will be able to re-download any music previously purchased in iTunes. If you pay a fee each year all of your music will be available for download from the store or iTunes Match (US only). There is no provision for streaming in this service. AFAIK Google Music and Amazon Music Locker are true streaming services, playback would depend on a connection. Im not sure which would be preferable, there are definite pros and cons to both.

PogMoThoin

bd250110 wrote: »

Just double checked. Only music that has been purchased in iTunes will be "pushed" to your other devices. Music will not be stored in your iCloud, but you will be able to re-download any music previously purchased in iTunes. If you pay a fee each year all of your music will be available for download from the store or iTunes Match (US only). There is no provision for streaming in this service. AFAIK Google Music and Amazon Music Locker are true streaming services, playback would depend on a connection. Im not sure which would be preferable, there are definite pros and cons to both.

What good is it then so? Have you actually paid for everything in your collection? If so, then you're the only one I know that did, it costs thousands fill an ipod/iphone.

You can use this on your GS2 or iPhone, you can even stream to any browser, in any format including AAC (as long as its DRM free)
http://www.audiogalaxy.com/#/music?
And it's free

bd250110

PogMoThoin wrote: »

What good is it then so? Have you actually paid for everything in your collection? If so, then you're the only one I know that did, it costs thousands fill an ipod/iphone.

iCloud seems to be a back up service, rather than anything else. I agree, it is not as useful as Google Music Beta, although another poster stated his preference for storage on the device, so you can't please everyone!
I have not paid for all of it, but a fair proportion of it, all of it has been purchased either on CD or copied from friends CD/iPod/iPhones, a lot of it comes from Amazon or Play.com, usually once ripped I will sell the CD on eBay.
This is not ideal, but until the music labels allow iTunes Match outside the US, it's the only solution. Well, that or Spotify, of course!

Paparazzo

sdonn wrote: »

A little input from myself having tried to embrace android.

I had a 3GS for a year, and swapped it for a desire HD (I got a good bargain there). Within 2 days I had sold that on and bought an iPhone 4 on upgrade.

The reason? Android drove me mad. Sluggish, buggy, memory eating, battery eating, lower build quality, lesser quality software, harder to use.

The iPhone is the best built, best feeling phone on the market today. If it had flash player, HDMI out and DLNA (2 of those three will be notched off by the end of the year with any luck) it would be the ultimate device.

You didn't give it much time. My wife was mad into the iPhone, she had it for a year and got HTC desire. She didn't want to, but I was getting one and she wanted to try it. She hated it for about a week, for the next week she was more open minded, then she loved it and now a year later she can't believe she ever used the iPhone and is wondering weather to get the sensation or the galaxy 2. And she actually loves itunes!
She says the only problem with the HTC is "its not an iPhone"!