Le Mans 2011

Foxhole Norman

Hey guys just wanted to know what channel will be broadcasting the Le Mans this year? I will be out on Saturday and Sunday so I'll miss it live but i will be able to record it if i know what channel its on.

squod

http://www.myp2pforum.eu/threads/57187-The-79th-24-Hours-of-Le-Mans-2011-STREAMING-DISCUSS

Presume it's gonna be on ustream or somewhere as well.

amacachi

Eurosport.

RedorDead

Audi takes the win from Peugeot by 13 seconds. 13 seconds over 24 hours is ridiculous! :eek:

In fairness - LeMans pisses all over F1.

AugustusMinimus

RedorDead wrote: »

Audi takes the win from Peugeot by 13 seconds. 13 seconds over 24 hours is ridiculous! :eek:

In fairness - LeMans pisses all over F1.

2 completely different series.

I have no idea what you're on about.

TestTransmission

:eek:

People behind the crash barrier had a lucky escape!Was anyone injured?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jnibRyrK-o

AugustusMinimus

TestTransmission wrote: »

:eek:

People behind the crash barrier had a lucky escape!Was anyone injured?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jnibRyrK-o

Rockenfeller's crash down the Mulsanne was worse IMO.

200mph + into an armco barrier. It was a miracle that he walked out of it.


McNish's crash reminded me of his crash at Donginton in F3000 in 1989. In both instances the car grinded the barrier, sadly in 1989, a marshall did die.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xnkod_donington-park-mcnish-crash_sport

AugustusMinimus

Here's hoping btw that Toyota and Nissan get notions of returning to prototype racing. Both have been away from the action for far too long now.

Porsche is in a difficult spot now. Audi closing in on their LeMans win record. However, they can't really enter LMP1 with Audi having an entry considering they are both part of the same group now.

RedorDead

LeMans vs. F1


At Le Mans, one R18TDI will cover 325 miles more than an F1 car will cover in an entire season, its average speed including pits stops will be 32km/h higher than an F1 car and it uses 42% less fuel.

You cannot argue with those figures.

AugustusMinimus

RedorDead wrote: »

LeMans vs. F1


At Le Mans, one R18TDI will cover 325 miles more than an F1 car will cover in an entire season, its average speed including pits stops will be 32km/h higher than an F1 car and it uses 42% less fuel.

You cannot argue with those figures.

What arguement is there ?

The LeMans track has 3 very long straights on the Mulsanne and another before the Porsche curves.

An F1 cars aerodynamics are not suited to top speed as they are open wheel cars.

I have no idea what sort of an arguement you are trying to make.


F1 and LeMans is motor racing. Not some sort of fuel efficiency race.

I'm sure those LMP cars could be engineered to be faster but would be much more fragile. Ditto, an F1 car can be engineered to do 24 hours but would be slower.

The top speed of both cars has nothing to do with the actual engineering but all has to do with the technical specifications laid down by both the FIA and the ACO.


YOu do also realise btw that both Audi and Peugeot are running Diesel engines while the fuel efficiency off of the petrol Judd and Aston Martin engine isn't near as good ?

RedorDead

I suppose purely to relate the concept (le mans or F1) to the companies core business - i.e - selling cars, to me for the figures shown above, Le Mans makes more sense.

F1 is better in so many other ways dont get me wrong.

AugustusMinimus

RedorDead wrote: »

I suppose purely to relate the concept (le mans or F1) to the companies core business - i.e - selling cars, to me for the figures shown above, Le Mans makes more sense.

F1 is better in so many other ways dont get me wrong.

I just think there is no point in any comparison. Both are radically different concepts.

The likes of Audi and Peugeot may say they race at LeMans due to a bit more cross over with road going cars.

However, the real reason is due to a LeMans programme costing a fraction of an F1 programme.

Toyota quickly realised this afer pulling out of Lemans to focus on F1 after the 1999 race.

Peugeot have also realised this, considering they have won LeMans twice in 20 years, while on the flip side, their F1 engine was stuck in the back of Jordan's and Ligiers, most of which were slow.


It must also be said that the effort to win at LeMans is prob much less than in F1. Williams won LeMans in 1999 eventhough at the same time, they were producing an absolute pig of a car in F1.


I must say, it will be interesting to see how many more manufacturers will be attracted back to the LMP1 category, especially now that the World Endurance Championship has been re-established for the 2012 season.

Arthur Daley

The crashes, especially McNish's looked worse than they where because the cars are designed to smash on heavy impact, dissapating the energy as much as possible to leave the driver's cell protected.

On eurosport commentary last night an ex driver was saying, can't remember who, that it's the crashes where the car doesn't smash to bits that often prove to be the fatal ones. Dale Ernhardt's crash was given as an example.

GTE

RedorDead wrote: »

LeMans vs. F1


At Le Mans, one R18TDI will cover 325 miles more than an F1 car will cover in an entire season, its average speed including pits stops will be 32km/h higher than an F1 car and it uses 42% less fuel.

You cannot argue with those figures.

Yes but we can disagree about which series we prefer. None are better. Those figures are not what I would use to rate a racing series.
It's all about entertainment FFS.


Anyway, it was a great race! Things were so close from the very start of the weekend. A pity about the Peugeot blocking the Audi as they did. Well deserved Audi win.