Dirty Money: John Gilligan

slum dog

I was watching dirty money the other night and a criminal assets beureau officer was interviewed about the fortune john gilligan had amassed over the years. I cant remember the exact figure he mentioned but it was around 500 million euro. Could this be true?

D1stant

John Gilligan is innocent. He was framed by Jim Corr

slum dog

D1stant wrote: »

John Gilligan is innocent. He was framed by Jim Corr

jim corr is an effing lunatic

SEPT 23 1989

No the money they made out of cannabis was tiny compared to the money the cocaine cowboys made at the height of the boom

slum dog

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

No the money they made out of cannabis was tiny compared to the money the cocaine cowboys made at the height of the boom

why how much did the cocaine cowboys make?

Pauleta

slum dog wrote: »

why how much did the cocaine cowboys make?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griselda_Blanco

Blanco was involved in much of the drug-related violence known as the Cocaine Cowboy Wars that plagued Miami in the late 1970s and early 1980s, when cocaine supplanted marijuana.[3] Her distribution network, which spanned the United States, brought in US$80 million per month.

Even the guys flying the cocaine into America were instant millionaires.

slum dog

slum dog wrote: »

I was watching dirty money the other night and a criminal assets beureau officer was interviewed about the fortune john gilligan had amassed over the years. I cant remember the exact figure he mentioned but it was around 500 million euro. Could this be true?

think that you are mixing it up with the Irish gang that was arrested in Spain last year with a guy called Christy Kinahan at the top of it - link. They were large scale wholesalers for Ireland and other countries and had accumulated huge amounts of assets including vast amounts of property in Brazil. Figures like 500 million were mentioned...

batistuta9

yeah the one's Pauleta's talking about - the people flying it in not griselda blanco are shown/interviewed in True Stories: Cocaine Cowboys very good show not the one was on tv3 about the irish guys, alot of the True Stories series are good, it be's on more4 on tuesdays the one this week is about the shell pipe of the west coast

slum dog

glasso wrote: »

think that you are mixing it up with the Irish gang that was arrested in Spain last year with a guy called Christy Kinahan at the top of it - link. They were large scale wholesalers for Ireland and other countries and had accumulated huge amounts of assets including vast amounts of property in Brazil. Figures like 500 million were mentioned...

thanks, that guys my hero

autonomy

slum dog wrote: »

thanks, that guys my hero

yeah drugs dealers are really cool??

slum dog

autonomy wrote: »

yeah drugs dealers are really cool??

cool, no. i'd classify a drug dealer with a 500 million euro property portfolio as possessing a touch of genius

R P McMurphy

slum dog wrote: »

cool, no. i'd classify a drug dealer with a 500 million euro property portfolio as possessing a touch of genius

He definitely seems to be a pretty intelligent fella with a large property portfolio, but is still rotting in a Spanish prison. Watch them sieze his wealth there

slum dog

R P McMurphy wrote: »

He definitely seems to be a pretty intelligent fella with a large property portfolio, but is still rotting in a Spanish prison. Watch them sieze his wealth there

i like to see them build a case against him. they havent much evidence. he might serve 5 years maximum. i'd consider that well spent if i got out knowing that money was there waiting for me.
you have to admire a guy who was a small time pusher, cleaned up his act and became a king

amjon.

slum dog wrote: »

you have to admire a guy who was a small time pusher, cleaned up his act and became a king

Are you kidding? Cleaned up his act? Don't see how "cleaning up" ones act could equate to bringing unimaginable suffering and pain to individuals and families across Europe. You seem quite naive, prehaps you've spent too long playing GTA or watching Scarface? I imagine your closest contact with a drug addict is sneering at them as you pass them in the street.
There is nothing meritorious about drug dealing, whether that be selling a half ounce of weed to a friend of a friend or masterminding a world wide drugs network. What this man did is completely reprehensible, he should never see the light of day again.

slum dog

amjon. wrote: »

Are you kidding? Cleaned up his act? Don't see how "cleaning up" ones act could equate to bringing unimaginable suffering and pain to individuals and families across Europe. You seem quite naive, prehaps you've spent too long playing GTA or watching Scarface? I imagine your closest contact with a drug addict is sneering at them as you pass them in the street.
There is nothing meritorious about drug dealing, whether that be selling a half ounce of weed to a friend of a friend or masterminding a world wide drugs network. What this man did is completely reprehensible, he should never see the light of day again.

oh believe me, im familiar with the realities of life. ever heard of free will? people choose to take drugs just like they choose to drink. to suggest otherwise would be naive
are we to blame heineken and budweiser for the families alcoholics have destroyed?

amjon.

slum dog wrote: »

oh believe me, im familiar with the realities of life. ever heard of free will? people choose to take drugs just like they choose to drink. to suggest otherwise would be naive
are we to blame heineken and budweiser for the families alcoholics have destroyed?

Fine. Free will. My uncle hunts pheasants. I think I will chose to hunt young children. I am sure your line of defence will do wonders for drug dealers and murders the world over. If this titanic defence fails perhaps you should use this timeless one liner - "You're not the boss of me!!!" If presented with the right mix of confidence and self righteous indignation you could convince anyone your mental capacity for logic comfortably exceeds that of a four year old. In fact you should become a lawyer; your grasp on reality is only eclipsed by your encyclopaedic knowledge of legislation. My only hope is that Mr Gilligan hasn't used his phone call yet!
As for your limp nod towards alcohol; Alcohol is ingrained into most western societies. This is as true as it is unfortunate. People that become alcoholics do so due to a wide range of factors ranging from genetic, psychological, physical amongst others. It would be disingenuous to suggest that Heineken or any other brewery are directly to blame for any cases of alcoholism. In fact I'd wager that the profits derived from alcoholics by Diageo et al are far outstripped by the various drink aware campaigns that alcoholism necessitates. It plainly obvious that breweries do not seek to create alcoholics, drug dealers on the other hand... but I digress, I am not going to get drawn into a debate on the relative evils of the marketing strategies employed by the purveyors alcohol and drugs.
Getting back to your point on "freedom"; it seems to me that you have some sort of quasi-libertarian stance on the concept of drug use. I understand that you feel you and others should be allowed to smoke what they wish, whether that be a bubble pipe while soaking in their Sunday evening bath or heroin as they squat in a filthy ally way. That's ok, I completely see where you are coming from. My divergence from your train of thought comes the next morning. The chap that honked on the bubble pipe gets up and goes to work, pays his taxes and makes a positive contribution to society. The chap that partook in the heroin wakes up in an A and E ward after receiving treatment for an overdose and hypothermia. Who pays for his medical treatment? Who pays for his ambulance? Who pays for his dole payments? The first man does. How is this "freedom"? Yet I'm sure that every single person that wails about drug legalisation expects the state to continue to support the A and E units and hospitals that will treat the adverse reactions that will invariably occur when people are allowed to self prescribe opiates, stimulants and sedatives. They want to cherry pick their freedoms while maintaining a veneer of equality. These people are parasitic.
I would be perfectly happy to live in a "free" country. A country without crippling taxes, a country where a man can live his life without interference from the state, a country where the strong and intelligent prosper. I’d also be perfectly happy to know that that heroin addict is not getting one iota of assistance in his self destruction from the state. If people are able to fend for themselves and build a sustainable existence I think you’ll find that their enthusiasm for even the softer drugs will wane given that they face abject ruination if they lose their source of income. I’m sure some people would be able to function just fine, however those who can’t would put off others from even attempting.
Unfortunately we live in a country where we are deemed to be inherently "equal". This of course is complete nonsense, none of us are equal. The state realises this but instead of admitting defeat to circumstance and mother nature she had decided to take her bucket and spade to Dollymount strand and vowed stop the approaching tide in it's tracks. So those with initiative and drive are shackled with not only with their own load but with the load of their state appointed “equals”. This is the real injustice in Ireland not that fact that you are prohibited from masterminding world wide drug cartels.

slum dog

amjon. wrote: »

Fine. Free will. My uncle hunts pheasants. I think I will chose to hunt young children. I am sure your line of defence will do wonders for drug dealers and murders the world over. If this titanic defence fails perhaps you should use this timeless one liner - "You're not the boss of me!!!" If presented with the right mix of confidence and self righteous indignation you could convince anyone your mental capacity for logic comfortably exceeds that of a four year old. In fact you should become a lawyer; your grasp on reality is only eclipsed by your encyclopaedic knowledge of legislation. My only hope is that Mr Gilligan hasn't used his phone call yet!
As for your limp nod towards alcohol; Alcohol is ingrained into most western societies. This is as true as it is unfortunate. People that become alcoholics do so due to a wide range of factors ranging from genetic, psychological, physical amongst others. It would be disingenuous to suggest that Heineken or any other brewery are directly to blame for any cases of alcoholism. In fact I'd wager that the profits derived from alcoholics by Diageo et al are far outstripped by the various drink aware campaigns that alcoholism necessitates. It plainly obvious that breweries do not seek to create alcoholics, drug dealers on the other hand... but I digress, I am not going to get drawn into a debate on the relative evils of the marketing strategies employed by the purveyors alcohol and drugs.
Getting back to your point on "freedom"; it seems to me that you have some sort of quasi-libertarian stance on the concept of drug use. I understand that you feel you and others should be allowed to smoke what they wish, whether that be a bubble pipe while soaking in their Sunday evening bath or heroin as they squat in a filthy ally way. That's ok, I completely see where you are coming from. My divergence from your train of thought comes the next morning. The chap that honked on the bubble pipe gets up and goes to work, pays his taxes and makes a positive contribution to society. The chap that partook in the heroin wakes up in an A and E ward after receiving treatment for an overdose and hypothermia. Who pays for his medical treatment? Who pays for his ambulance? Who pays for his dole payments? The first man does. How is this "freedom"? Yet I'm sure that every single person that wails about drug legalisation expects the state to continue to support the A and E units and hospitals that will treat the adverse reactions that will invariably occur when people are allowed to self prescribe opiates, stimulants and sedatives. They want to cherry pick their freedoms while maintaining a veneer of equality. These people are parasitic.
I would be perfectly happy to live in a "free" country. A country without crippling taxes, a country where a man can live his life without interference from the state, a country where the strong and intelligent prosper. I’d also be perfectly happy to know that that heroin addict is not getting one iota of assistance in his self destruction from the state. If people are able to fend for themselves and build a sustainable existence I think you’ll find that their enthusiasm for even the softer drugs will wane given that they face abject ruination if they lose their source of income. I’m sure some people would be able to function just fine, however those who can’t would put off others from even attempting.
Unfortunately we live in a country where we are deemed to be inherently "equal". This of course is complete nonsense, none of us are equal. The state realises this but instead of admitting defeat to circumstance and mother nature she had decided to take her bucket and spade to Dollymount strand and vowed stop the approaching tide in it's tracks. So those with initiative and drive are shackled with not only with their own load but with the load of their state appointed “equals”. This is the real injustice in Ireland not that fact that you are prohibited from masterminding world wide drug cartels.

mate i think you need to get a grip on reality and see things for how they are rather than how they should be

good luck in your noble conquest