OSX Lion

opinion guy

Sad Professor wrote: »

I think we Mac users are kinda spoiled anyway. I mean, the clean install I did last night was the first clean install I’ve done since getting my Macbook Pro over 2 years ago. I upgraded the machine from Leopard to Snow Leopard and then to Lion. I never did any maintenance or nothing. It’s a wonder I didn’t encounter issues earlier. I regularly have to go to my uncle’s house and a do a clean install of Windows for him.

Spoiled!?!?!?!? Windows has dulled your expectation my friend. If you bought a car would you expect to have to rebuild the engine every 6 months ? If you bought a house woudl you expect to have to replumb it every year ???

No. Apple uses are not spoiled. Windows users are just conditioned to just put up with shoddy products.

muff03

Deep Thought wrote: »

mmmmmmmmm

My 2007 Macbook can only manage 2GB

Would this be a good excuse to convince her self that we ned a new mac ?.:cool:

could also add in excuse that the new software fixes security vunerabilites that may cause you machine to be at risk if and when you are online, although she may see through that one :eek:

Please say yes

mine is coping fine with Lion on 2.5GB. BUT, since you asked nicely 'n all, YES

I had the GM installed some weeks ago, and I did notice that my MBP was running slightly hotter.

Last Thur when Lion came out, I did a clean install, burned Lion to a USB stick and wiped the hard drive with 1's prior to the installation.

So far so good, I have Safari and Mail open and the CPU is running at 42 Degrees, which is on par with SL.

fasty

Sad Professor wrote: »

I regularly have to go to my uncle’s house and a do a clean install of Windows for him.

This has more to do with your uncle and less to do with Windows.

Deep Thought

Hi

for those who have installed....

I assume it doesn't touch Bootcamp Partition

Cheers

nesf

Deep Thought wrote: »

Hi

for those who have installed....

I assume it doesn't touch Bootcamp Partition

Cheers

I'm not having any problems with Bootcamp anyway.

Funkstard

Nope, still there. Going to get rid of parallels though, littering my launchpad or mission control or whatever it's called.

5uspect

Funkstard wrote: »

Nope, still there. Going to get rid of parallels though, littering my launchpad or mission control or whatever it's called.

You can just drag the launchpad icons on top of each other into a tidy stack.

horgan_p

Lads , advice needed.
I have 2 mbp at the minute :
1) mid 2009 13" core 2 duo with 4 gb.
2) new 15" i7 with 8gb

The 13" currently has lion and is driving me up the walls.buggy wouldn't cover it.closer to broken.

So I'm considering rolling back the 13" to snow leopard , putting an extra 4 gb of ram and selling it on.meanwhile leave snow leopard on the 15" and waiting for maybe 2 point releases then redownload lion and do a clean install.
Either way I need a reliable mbp for work.
Should a clean install of lion on the quicker machine be better or should I listen to my gut and hold off ??

nesf

horgan_p wrote: »

Lads , advice needed.
I have 2 mbp at the minute :
1) mid 2009 13" core 2 duo with 4 gb.
2) new 15" i7 with 8gb

The 13" currently has lion and is driving me up the walls.buggy wouldn't cover it.closer to broken.

So I'm considering rolling back the 13" to snow leopard , putting an extra 4 gb of ram and selling it on.meanwhile leave snow leopard on the 15" and waiting for maybe 2 point releases then redownload lion and do a clean install.
Either way I need a reliable mbp for work.
Should a clean install of lion on the quicker machine be better or should I listen to my gut and hold off ??

If it's for work I'd hold off until 10.7.2 at least.

ashleey

I've just swapped the 2gb memory in my late 2009 mac mini for 8gb from crucial. It's like a different machine and os. 4gb is probably enough judging by activity monitor but 2gb is used up easily and leads to a lot of hangs if you have shared graphics memory

dubmick

First time I have been burnt by a Mac OS upgrade. If I had of known about the wifi issue I would have held off until the next update.

opinion guy

Surely they will have to push out an early update given all the issues there are.

nesf

Bleh, 3 system crashes in short succession.

nesf

Make that 5 times. Lion hates me this morning.

Sad Professor

Haven't had any crashes (touch wood) since doing a clean install. But Safari has a nasty memory leak. I came back to my Mac after being out all day and found every app to be extremely unresponsive and requiring a minute or two to return to normal. I had this same problem when using Safari with early versions of SL. It seems as though Safari is steeling all the RAM and forcing other apps into virtual memory.

nesf

Sad Professor wrote: »

Haven't had any crashes (touch wood) since doing a clean install. But Safari has a nasty memory leak. I came back to my Mac after being out all day and found every app to be extremely unresponsive and requiring a minute or two to return to normal. I had this same problem when using Safari with early versions of SL. It seems as though Safari is steeling all the RAM and forcing other apps into virtual memory.

Yeah I've seen that reported, it's a leak in the sandboxed renderer app apparently. I wasn't experiencing it when using Safari, but then I was lucky I think.

ashleey

I might have to download chrome. Horror. I've also had problems with garmin training centre too with corrupt data and all my data for that is fine when I moved it over to garmin tc in windows on bootcamp so it's the mac and not the data. The safari memory leak is very bad though

keefg

Sad Professor wrote: »

The version you download from the App Store for €24 will work on up to 5 computers. No need for a family pack anymore.

How does that work SP? I've installed Lion on the wife's macbook, how do I get it on mine without shelling out again on the app store?


Cheers.

alexlyons

keefg wrote: »

Sad Professor wrote: »

The version you download from the App Store for €24 will work on up to 5 computers. No need for a family pack anymore.

How does that work SP? I've installed Lion on the wife's macbook, how do I get it on mine without shelling out again on the app store?


Cheers.

Open the app store on her computer. Change the account to the one you purchased lion with. Go to the "purchased" tab up the top and you should see lion there. Just hit install and it won't charge you again. The big thing here is the account you used to buy it needs to be the same, ie same email and password

Sad Professor

So much for the clean install fixing the crashes. I just had another one. Spinning beach ball on the login screen again.

I've been looking at the logs and Time Machine/Spotlight is coming up a lot. There's been about a hundred instances of the following error just today:

com.apple.mtmd[34]: low priority thinning needed for volume Macintosh HD (/) with 14.4 <= 20.0 pct free space

Thinning is what TM does when it runs out of space. It deletes old backups to make way for new ones. But I have about 500GB free on my TM drive. My internal drive is only 160GB.

Same error was coming up before the crash, however, so it may not be the cause.

Sad Professor

My logs are also filled with the following error

IOSurface: buffer allocation size is zero

It seems to be Flash related and has been causing system-wide freezes for many users. There's a blog entry about it here.

Has anyone else been getting this?

nesf

I'm not getting it but I have been having flash problems and I've not had a crash when a tab with flash isn't open.

fasty

Not a fix, but if you're using Safari, Click to Flash is a worthy plugin. The only one I bother with!

I have no doubt there are Chrome and Firefox versions too.

ashleey

I've removed adblock and removed and reinstalled flash and it is better if that helps?

As an aside, once you have redownloaded lion and put it on a flash drive for a clean install, how do you remove the installer app from your machine? ( that you don't need seeing as lion is already installed and I only redownloaded it to make a bootable flash drive)

richardjjd

I'm now (since Friday) having a problem with Safari and Tweetdeck. When Tweekdeck is open, Safari won't come to the front (i.e. the application is open, but I can't see it. I can minimize Tweetdeck and Safari becomes visible, momentarily, before Tweetdeck expands and hides the Safari pages again). I'm running Safari 5.1 and Tweetdeck 0.38.1. The only way to get it to work is to have Safari open before I open Tweetdeck.

Sad Professor

ashleey wrote: »

As an aside, once you have redownloaded lion and put it on a flash drive for a clean install, how do you remove the installer app from your machine? ( that you don't need seeing as lion is already installed and I only redownloaded it to make a bootable flash drive)

Just drag it to the trash and delete it.

Re: flash, I've uninstalled it altogether. If I have another crash I'll know that's not the cause.

richardjjd

Useful list here which shows which apps are fully, partly and not compatible with Lion.

whiterebel

I think I'll wait for 10.8 - codename Big Pussy....:p

SP is right, I haven't seen this much carnage since 10.0/10.1 when NOTHING would work.....there were no printer drivers, no scanner support for about 18 months......was a bad time to be working in Apple Tech support....:o

ashleey

Thanks sadprofessor.

Judging by earlier posts about tweetdeck it seems that several safari add ons are problematic. Hopefully that once they are updated then the problems with lion will go away and as such not really be a lion problem.