French demands on corporation tax

TheAnswer

The French are demanding we increase our corporate tax rate again.

Enda should tell Sarkozy to fcuk off or we'll reduce the corporate tax rate by 2% if we don't get a lower interest rate.

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Slydice

how about we just say "no" when they come asking us for permission to bail out greece again?

you know... the same greece that has gotten an interest rate cut and hasn't done half as much as we have to deserve one

RichardAnd

TheAnswer wrote: »

The French are demanding we increase our corporate tax rate again.

Enda should tell Sarkozy to fcuk off or we'll reduce the corporate tax rate by 2% if we don't get a lower interest rate.

Nonan did recently say that he would lower the CT rate if the French didn't back off. I felt good when I heard that, it's nice to hear an Irish politician actually stand up for Ireland.

I don't like Sarkozy's manner and, I've got to be honest here, I actually don't find French people in general to be very likeable. I know a few that are fine but for the most part, I've found them to be a haughty and crass breed especially when compared to my experiences in other European countries (Italy and Spain).

Someone will likely call me "racist" (a misnomer in this case) but I'm just expressing my opinion. Take it for what it is.

dan_d

Nah, not racist....I've had a LOT of experience with les Francaises, and as with any people they range from pretty horrible to lovely.

Sarkozy himself comes across as a pain in the ass though.

sollar

The man has no integrity. He was over hear smarming about the place telling us to vote yes to lisbon and we would not be asked to change the CT rate. Fast forward 3 years and he is kicking us while we are down. How could the french even consider voting this snake back in again.

P. Breathnach

RichardAnd wrote: »

...
Someone will likely call me "racist" (a misnomer in this case) but I'm just expressing my opinion. Take it for what it is.

The word is xenophobe.

Dannyboy83

RichardAnd wrote: »

I don't like Sarkozy's manner and, I've got to be honest here, I actually don't find French people in general to be very likeable. I know a few that are fine but for the most part, I've found them to be a haughty and crass breed especially when compared to my experiences in other European countries (Italy and Spain).

This is because they don't tolerate wasters imo.

Most of the French people I have worked with have been very professional.
The cowboy attitude in Ireland drives them erratic.
Similar for German, British and Scandinavian people.
They expect things to be done properly and cannot understand when things are not done properly.
My sister in law is from Sweden, one of her friends literally hates Ireland after her experience here. We are a grade A at incompetence.

Like when things are done in Ireland by the government, you just take it for granted it will be a mess. It's just the way it is.
They simply don't have that in their countries.
If things are to be done, they will be done properly.

When the Queen came to Cork, I couldn't actually figure out how they'd managed to run such a neat operation. Several of my colleagues commented on it. Then we found out it was the Brits had coordinated it, not Paddy. Made sense I figured.

The Italians and Spanish on the other hand, are similar to Ireland. Governed by incompetent cowboys, brown envelope culture. One of my colleagues is Spanish and we often compare the Irish and Spanish mess. Frequently, you can just swap FiannaFail for the Spanish equivalent etc.

RichardAnd

P. Breathnach wrote: »

The word is xenophobe.

I know, hence why I pointed out my own malapropism

Scofflaw

Dannyboy83 wrote: »

This is because they don't tolerate wasters imo.

Most of the French people I have worked with have been very professional.
The cowboy attitude in Ireland drives them erratic.
Similar for German, British and Scandinavian people.
They expect things to be done properly and cannot understand when things are not done properly.
My sister in law is from Sweden, one of her friends literally hates Ireland after her experience here. We are a grade A at incompetence.

Like when things are done in Ireland by the government, you just take it for granted it will be a mess. It's just the way it is.
They simply don't have that in their countries.
If things are to be done, they will be done properly.

When the Queen came to Cork, I couldn't actually figure out how they'd managed to run such a neat operation. Several of my colleagues commented on it. Then we found out it was the Brits had coordinated it, not Paddy. Made sense I figured.

The Italians and Spanish on the other hand, are similar to Ireland. Governed by incompetent cowboys, brown envelope culture. One of my colleagues is Spanish and we often compare the Irish and Spanish mess. Frequently, you can just swap FiannaFail for the Spanish equivalent etc.

The French, at least those I worked with, considered the English intolerably slack and laissez-faire.

cordially,
Scofflaw

beeftotheheels

Scofflaw wrote: »

The French, at least those I worked with, considered the English intolerably slack and laissez-faire.

cordially,
Scofflaw

Having worked in the City I would probably disagree with this, never got that sense off the French, probably more so off the Germans who can be very formulaic and rigid, and leave it to the Swiss!

Although anyone pondering the protestant catholic divide we seem to have here? Could there be anything in that?

Dannyboy83

Looks like Michael Martin isn't happy either:

Fianna Fáil leader Mícheal Martin has criticised the Taoiseach for not doing his job in fighting Ireland's corner.

Mr Martin said the Government's plan to seek a cheaper bailout deal for Ireland is now "in tatters".

Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/martin-plan-for-bailout-deal-for-ireland-in-tatters-508255.html#ixzz1OizyUnqB

Dannyboy83

beeftotheheels wrote: »

Although anyone pondering the protestant catholic divide we seem to have here? Could there be anything in that?

There is definitely something cultural in there.

But I think it's more of

incompetent countries vs competent countries, than anything else.


For example, look at this story:
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/mother-told-by-paramedics-to-give-tragic-son-7up-court-told-2668818.html

My friends who are Lithuanian had the exact same thing happen to them.
Their son nearly died, only that they took their son back to Lithuania for medical attention, he would be dead.
None of the Eastern Europeans I know in Ireland will use the Irish Health Service (and I speak Polish & Russian, so I know a lot of them!).

The Eastern European countries are hardly bastions of competence.
But the difference is as apparent to them as it is to anyone. ( a topic I have frequently discussed with them actually)

Scofflaw

beeftotheheels wrote: »

Having worked in the City I would probably disagree with this, never got that sense off the French, probably more so off the Germans who can be very formulaic and rigid, and leave it to the Swiss!

This was offshore, where the environment tends to be a little military, and one recalls that Martinet was a Frenchman...while Nelson was English...

cordially,
Scofflaw

Dannyboy83

Scofflaw wrote: »

The French, at least those I worked with, considered the English intolerably slack and laissez-faire.

That's actually probably quite accurate.
The English I've worked with have often called the French fascists.

The English and the French seem to grate, no doubt about it.
I couldn't see them hanging out at lunch, lol
But they do work well together in my experience - because they expect the same standards.

The_Thing

Dannyboy83 wrote: »

None of the Eastern Europeans I know in Ireland will use the Irish Health Service (and I speak Polish & Russian, so I know a lot of them!).

I know two Polish girls personally, both have given birth in Irish hospitals, and neither of them had any problem.

careca11

TheAnswer wrote: »

The French are demanding we increase our corporate tax rate again.

Enda should tell Sarkozy to fcuk off or we'll reduce the corporate tax rate by 2% if we don't get a lower interest rate.

[MOD]This is not Liveline.[/MOD]

we should reduce our corporation Tax by 1% and tell sourkozy to take a run and jump
also irish consumers should boycott french produce

Tora Bora

Sarkozy, is a vertically challenged prick. Not very well liked in France at this time. Using this kick the feckless Paddies in the balls tactic, to show some sort of leadership qualities to the general Frog popuation in an election year.

I can't help thinking though, the EU may need at some point in the future to make some important changes to the whole legal basis of the union.

We will have to have a referendum on it, and boy will we take revenge:D:D It's best served cold you know, with frogs legs on the side.:cool:

Dannyboy83

The_Thing wrote: »

I know two Polish girls personally, both have given birth in Irish hospitals, and neither of them had any problem.

Go back and ask them what they honestly think of their own health service in comparison to ours and tell them you won't be offended. I'll bet you will be surprised.

Count the number of Eastern European doctors in a tiny village like Cork City - they wouldn't be here if they didn't have the customers.

Not just Eastern Europeans tho.
My colleague who I work closest with is French - he goes back to France to see the doctors.
He thinks the Irish Health service is a howl - €50 for a 2min consultation, and they always just prescribe the same sh1te.

Scofflaw

Right, I think that's pretty much enough. Low quality, and deteriorated.

moderately,
Scofflaw