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  • 05-06-2011 10:25am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 651 ✭✭✭


    just wondering if it's my imagination or is it that every time in a Chinese restaurant, chinese massage place etc it's always the same "oh sorry sir, I dont know whats wrong the machine for card payments is not working, would you have cash instead?"

    I think I'm due a few phone calls to Revenue !!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭alexonhisown


    Dont know about the massage places, but you are right about the take aways, has happened me a few times


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    falabo wrote: »
    just wondering if it's my imagination or is it that every time in a Chinese restaurant, chinese massage place etc it's always the same "oh sorry sir, I dont know whats wrong the machine for card payments is not working, would you have cash instead?"

    I think I'm due a few phone calls to Revenue !!!!
    I suspect you wouldn't know the inside of a Chinese massage property if you stood at its doors.
    ...But carry on bashing them anyway! Sure aren't they all the same!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    falabo wrote: »
    just wondering if it's my imagination or is it that every time in a Chinese restaurant, chinese massage place etc it's always the same "oh sorry sir, I dont know whats wrong the machine for card payments is not working, would you have cash instead?"

    I think I'm due a few phone calls to Revenue !!!!



    Sounds like you no have happy ending then.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭ebixa82


    Conrad Gallagher's Tasting Room restaurant takes cash only. Be sure to report him while you're at it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    I never realised wanting to avoid card service charges (2.5%) made you guilty of tax fraud.


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  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,631 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Probably cause cash is easier to say!

    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    I can't be sure, but I suspect your call will go like this;

    "Hello, somewhere random wouldn't take my card"

    "Well sir, my professionalism prevents me from telling you what I really think of your call" Click.

    "Hello? Hello?"

    Beeeeep


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,905 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    OP click on this website - www.getafcukinglife.com


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭LighterGuy


    falabo wrote: »
    just wondering if it's my imagination or is it that every time in a Chinese restaurant, chinese massage place etc it's always the same "oh sorry sir, I dont know whats wrong the machine for card payments is not working, would you have cash instead?"

    If it has happened a good few times to you, i guess the chinese dont like credit cards. Either too mean to install the ability the take card payments.. or a few places are run on the side.
    falabo wrote: »
    I think I'm due a few phone calls to Revenue !!!!

    dont be mean. if anyone can make money on the side. good on them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    casinos run by Chinese people have no trouble taking my card I tell you whut


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 186 ✭✭teaandtoast


    falabo wrote: »
    just wondering if it's my imagination or is it that every time in a Chinese restaurant, chinese massage place etc it's always the same "oh sorry sir, I dont know whats wrong the machine for card payments is not working, would you have cash instead?"

    I think I'm due a few phone calls to Revenue !!!!

    Well it's not something I would think of or remember. I have important things to think of such as living my life. It is not your responsiblity to report tax avoidance things that is what they have tax inspectors for, it's not directly harming you and others.

    I would remember the food I got though if it was nice. I never got much of a nice chinese, either hit or miss, they are either very greasy, bland or the meat was just about cooked and no bite to it. I am surprised there are a lot of chinese take aways in Dublin. I hope to find a nice one yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Guill


    I gota chinesse take away last night, took my card no bother.
    Dropped her home later in the night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭mikeystipey


    you reckon its just Chinese places that do this? Was in 2 bars on Friday night in Dublin that had several notices up about their machine being broken. Also a thriving gourmet burger restaurant I pass by every day has had such notices up for months.

    But good point OP. I also resent the Chinese for coming here and working hard and taking the jobs we were all dying to do :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,231 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    The beauty of being a Revenue Commissioner is that they know what the profit margins are supposed to be for every kind of business in the country, so if the margins don't look right from one Chinese restaurant/takeaway to the next, they carry out audits to find out why.

    This is the same for every other business in the country, the Revenue Commissioners not being xenophobic or anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    LighterGuy wrote: »
    Either too mean to install the ability the take card paymentsthem.
    Hows it mean to not want to hand over 2.5% of your gross to the bank. A lot of places are run on tight margins these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Fukuyama


    you reckon its just Chinese places that do this? Was in 2 bars on Friday night in Dublin that had several notices up about their machine being broken. Also a thriving gourmet burger restaurant I pass by every day has had such notices up for months.

    But good point OP. I also resent the Chinese for coming here and working hard and taking the jobs we were all dying to do :rolleyes:

    The gun. You have jumped it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,231 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Does the OP want the Chinese taken away?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 186 ✭✭teaandtoast


    There are many sad people in this country that don't have a life. It's pathetic


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭LighterGuy


    Nevore wrote: »
    Hows it mean to not want to hand over 2.5% of your gross to the bank. A lot of places are run on tight margins these days.

    Its 2.5 percent?
    so ... any business that runs the ability to take payment by credit card. has to give 2.5 percent of those payments to the bank?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭LighterGuy


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    The beauty of being a Revenue Commissioner is that they know what the profit margins are supposed to be for every kind of business in the country, so if the margins don't look right from one Chinese restaurant/takeaway to the next, they carry out audits to find out why.

    This is the same for every other business in the country, the Revenue Commissioners not being xenophobic or anything.


    So thats how they get wide to people?

    So... say if one tradesmen is not reporting all his earnings (say he is unreporting 50%) they'd cop on that the average trademens makes more than double than him then investigate?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,231 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    LighterGuy wrote: »
    Its 2.5 percent?
    so ... any business that runs the ability to take payment by credit card. has to give 2.5 percent of those payments to the bank?

    That's why a lot of businesses don't allow customers to buy piddling items on a credit card, or debit card, because any profit's gone straight away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭Sonnenblumen


    LighterGuy wrote: »
    So thats how they get wide to people?

    So... say if one tradesmen is not reporting all his earnings (say he is unreporting 50%) they'd cop on that the average trademens makes more than double than him then investigate?

    A bit like using a crook to catch a crook!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,231 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    LighterGuy wrote: »
    So thats how they get wide to people?

    So... say if one tradesmen is not reporting all his earnings (say he is unreporting 50%) they'd cop on that the average trademens makes more than double than him then investigate?

    Yes, and if they don't think that a person's living expenses are enough, they go after him/her on that basis as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Hi, Can I have 20 Johnny Blue, a six euro quickpick and 20 euro vodafone credit please, oh and I assume I can pay with my card.

    Eh.....No.
    Wha!!?? You're fcukin' jokin' me. What kinda stone age shop is this

    The kinda shop that doesn't like to lose another 2.5% of the already low margin products you just bought.

    9 times out of 10 out comes the cash. I guess I should take it as a compliment that they trust me more with their card than the local bartender they were about to visit after :rolleyes:

    The other 1 out of 10 come back a few minutes later after a trip to the atm.

    Big Tesco weekly shop, Harvey Norman big electrical goods purchase, Big Restaurant tab risk losing the sale if they don't take the card so they take the hit.

    Small corner shop....not so much (We're also less able to absord the hit anyway)

    So save you're indignation for High margin businesses or High Volume/low margin businesses. A small business not accepting cards is not the sign of a luddite or tax evader.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Plenty of Chinese restaurants I've used accept debit/credit cards. You don't have Amex by any chance?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭Yahew


    So... say if one tradesmen is not reporting all his earnings (say he is unreporting 50%) they'd cop on that the average trademens makes more than double than him then investigate?

    The burden of proof is going to be way too high. If a guy does 50% cash jobs then how can they prove anything without access to his bank account, if they have that ( and even if they did he could store money in his house). I dont care - I'd prefer businesses survived rather than go out of business


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    LighterGuy wrote: »
    Its 2.5 percent?
    so ... any business that runs the ability to take payment by credit card. has to give 2.5 percent of those payments to the bank?
    Its a flat fee of 2.50 for under a tenner, 2.5% over that.

    Give or take, it varies a little from bank to bank I think, but that's the basic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    Yahew wrote: »
    The burden of proof is going to be way too high. If a guy does 50% cash jobs then how can they prove anything without access to his bank account, if they have that ( and even if they did he could store money in his house). I dont care - I'd prefer businesses survived rather than go out of business
    Course they have access to bank records.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,231 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Yahew wrote: »
    The burden of proof is going to be way too high. If a guy does 50% cash jobs then how can they prove anything without access to his bank account, if they have that ( and even if they did he could store money in his house). I dont care - I'd prefer businesses survived rather than go out of business

    If the taxman jumps on someone, it's up to the tax-payer to prove that they're not fiddling. The taxman will have access to all of the family's bank accounts, and will know what assets there are. If the earnings over the years don't tie up with the worth of the tax-payer, then he'll have a hard job trying to convince the taxman that he hasn't been lying through his teeth.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭brimal


    Shocked 'a great bunch of lads' hasn't been posted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,231 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    brimal wrote: »
    Shocked 'a great bunch of lads' hasn't been posted.

    It would have been had it been a cool story bro.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,389 ✭✭✭FTGFOP


    "Run"



    That is all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    LighterGuy wrote: »
    Its 2.5 percent?
    so ... any business that runs the ability to take payment by credit card. has to give 2.5 percent of those payments to the bank?
    They certainly do.

    That's why certain shops have a minimum spend for cards. They'd make a huge loss if they allowed 2.5% to be taken off an already low margin.


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