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Three guys pin down 11 y/o girl and strip her naked

  • 04-06-2011 9:18pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭


    Outraged, huh?

    Except it was three middle school girls who pinned down an 11 years old elementary school boy, made a video of it and posted it on youtube (been removed). See story and blurred vid: http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-06-01/Online-video-shows-Fort-Myers-boy-being-bullied
    His mother won't press charges.

    If the gender roles were reversed as I suggested in the topic, would there have been a crazy outcry and would the fictional boys have been banned from school - regardless if it was on school property or not - and probably have some sexual assault stuff stickied to their CV?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 882 ✭✭✭fulhamfanincork


    That is disgusting but it'll just be swept under the carpet as always


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,033 ✭✭✭thebullkf


    D wrote: »
    Outraged, huh?

    Except it was three middle school girls who pinned down an 11 years old elementary school boy, made a video of it and posted it on youtube (been removed). See story and blurred vid: http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-06-01/Online-video-shows-Fort-Myers-boy-being-bullied
    His mother won't press charges.

    If the gender roles were reversed as I suggested in the topic, would there have been a crazy outcry and would the fictional boys have been banned from school - regardless if it was on school property or not - and probably have some sexual assault stuff stickied to their CV?

    yep.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    I'm shocked.
    Honestly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,487 ✭✭✭banquo


    Why won't his mother press charges? Parents should stand up for their kids.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    The mother's to blame, she's the only reason these girls won't be punished.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    It's the mother who doesn't want to press charges, the police said the girls "would have faced misdemeanor battery charges". I'm sure the law wouldn't have acted differently regardless of the genders involved, it's the mother's choice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 Camackaze


    I bet the lad is secretly chuffed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭Salty


    That is absolutely disgusting behaviour. So degrading for that boy. Imagine having to face going to school again after your friends seeing that video...:mad:

    Those girls are lucky his mother isn't pressing charges. Their parents better be handing out some heavy-handed punishments.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 357 ✭✭CoolGirl101


    D wrote: »

    If the gender roles were reversed as I suggested in the topic, would there have been a crazy outcry and would the fictional boys have been banned from school - regardless if it was on school property or not - and probably have some sexual assault stuff stickied to their CV?



    So true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    When hes 19 he'll be telling that tale of that foursome he had once


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭Silverfish


    Camackaze wrote: »
    I bet the lad is secretly chuffed

    It's responses like these that are the problem, I doubt if it was reversed, nobody would say the girl would be 'secretly chuffed'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,554 ✭✭✭✭alwaysadub


    If that was my kid i wouldn't be leaving it up to the girls parents to hand out punishments, i'd be leaving it to the police. Even just to frighten the crap out of them enough that they'll never try a stunt like that again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭tan11ie


    Some Mother!!! :mad:


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭Silverfish


    krudler wrote: »
    When hes 19 he'll be telling that tale of that foursome he had once

    No really, would you say the same if it had been an 11 year old female child? Why is it a joke cos it was a boy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    _meehan_ wrote: »
    Their parents better be handing out some heavy-handed punishments.
    Unfortunately I don't think the parents can hand out a strict enough punishment. What are they going to do? Ground them? Take their TV away?

    What the girls did was intentionally sadistic, they should have that on their record. They should have it hanging over them every time they look for a job, what they did took planning and malice and they're getting off without even a slap on the wrist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭How so Joe


    Fago! wrote: »
    Thread title: Three guys pin down 11 y/o girl and strip her naked

    Thread body: Except it was three middle school girls who pinned down an 11 years old elementary school boy

    WTF?

    Point being made is that the thread title made you click in. But the actual facts, that it was three girls bullying a boy, highlights the inequality between the sexes - the boy's parents won't even press charges.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Guill


    He should have started kicking the **** outta them ,oh wait, he'd be lynched for hitting girls then...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,647 ✭✭✭✭Fago!


    Silverfish wrote: »
    No really, would you say the same if it had been an 11 year old female child? Why is it a joke cos it was a boy?

    Coz boys joke about that stuff when they're 19.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Fago! wrote: »
    Thread title: Three guys pin down 11 y/o girl and strip her naked

    Thread body: Except it was three middle school girls who pinned down an 11 years old elementary school boy
    I hope they still have the electric chair in Florida! Those pre-teen girls should fry!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,647 ✭✭✭✭Fago!


    How so Joe wrote: »
    Point being made is that the thread title made you click in. But the actual facts, that it was three girls bullying a boy, highlights the inequality between the sexes - the boy's parents won't even press charges.

    Yeah sorry about that. I eventually copped what was going on and deleted me post :)


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭Silverfish


    Fago! wrote: »
    Coz boys joke about that stuff when they're 19.

    Guys joke about that time they were assaulted?

    Really?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,838 ✭✭✭✭3hn2givr7mx1sc


    Where's the Femiznazi this eve?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,108 ✭✭✭RachaelVO


    I like what ya did with the title OP, very John Grisham ;)

    What a pack of b1tches!!! They need a serious slap upside the head.
    For these kinda things they should bring back the stocks. It'd give supermarkets a use for the mould produce they don't sell!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Fago! wrote: »
    Coz boys joke about that stuff when they're 19.

    Maybe when he's 19 he'll laugh about it, but given that he's 11 now I'm guessing he dreads school, is embarrassed in public and is a high risk for depression.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭EGAR


    Silverfish wrote: »
    No really, would you say the same if it had been an 11 year old female child? Why is it a joke cos it was a boy?

    Totally agree. If I were the mother I would press charges. Disgusting behaviour!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭Salty


    Seachmall wrote: »
    Unfortunately I don't think the parents can hand out a strict enough punishment. What are they going to do? Ground them? Take their TV away?

    What the girls did was intentionally sadistic, they should have that on their record. They should have it hanging over them every time they look for a job, what they did took planning and malice and they're getting off without even a slap on the wrist.

    I completely agree with you. Tbh, I think it's a bad decision on the mother's part to not press charges. Those girls will never truly feel the consequences of such serious behaviour, and that boy will never feel that justice was served.
    Fago! wrote: »
    Coz boys joke about that stuff when they're 19.

    In all seriousness, do you think this is the kind of thing he will joke about when he's 19? It's probably going to follow him around for a long time in a negative way. Hardly something to be made light of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,134 ✭✭✭Duddy


    Fort Myers Police says the girl would have faced misdemeanor battery charges, but that the boy's mother has refused to press charges. She wants the girls' parents to hand out a punishment instead.

    Perhaps the parents all knew each other, and the mother didn't want to start a lengthy ordeal...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,647 ✭✭✭✭Fago!


    Seachmall wrote: »
    Maybe when he's 19 he'll laugh about it, but given that he's 11 now I'm guessing he dreads school, is embarrassed in public and is a high risk for depression.

    Yeah that's what i'm saying. Obviously he won't joke about it now, but when he's a bit older he'll probably make jokes about it with his mates.

    Either way something should be done about those girls.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭Silverfish


    baz2009 wrote: »
    Where's the Femiznazi this eve?

    Having been regularly accused of being one, I can affirm I'm right here, and I'm not the one making jokes about it, so perhaps it's not the feminists you need to blame for this not being taken seriously.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    I'm sure some action will be taken whether or not the mother presses charges. Presumably the school can also press charges since it happened on their watch?

    It's fairly horrid, but is it really news?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Silverfish wrote: »
    No really, would you say the same if it had been an 11 year old female child? Why is it a joke cos it was a boy?

    see tLL for non AH response


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    I'd be appalled at that story no matter what the gender of the victim was, I think most people would OP. The only reason they're getting away with it is because the boy's stupid mother won't press charges. I don't really see why you felt the need to alter your title.

    the thread in TLL on the same subject has the correct title and people are equally disgusted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    What they did was wrong but sexist or not if 3 guys did this to a girl it will always be treated more seriously, nothing to do with 'equality' its just a different dynamic.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭Silverfish


    krudler wrote: »
    see tLL for non AH response

    Not sure if joking about a child being assaulted is acceptable here either, tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭angeldelight


    Duddy wrote: »
    Perhaps the parents all knew each other, and the mother didn't want to start a lengthy ordeal...

    Tough - that little boys ordeal will be with him for the rest of his life, affecting his schoolwork, friends, future intimate relationships... Doesn't even compare tbh


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Silverfish wrote: »
    It's responses like these that are the problem, I doubt if it was reversed, nobody would say the girl would be 'secretly chuffed'.

    And if roles were reversed the post would get reported too and there would be an outcry.
    I appreciated D posting this the way he did. The thread title coaxes outrage and then the text really hits in to make you think about gender, equality, perception.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Fago! wrote: »
    Yeah that's what i'm saying. Obviously he won't joke about it now, but when he's a bit older he'll probably make jokes about it with his mates.

    Either way something should be done about those girls.

    He might laugh it off in years to come, doesn't mean he will actually find it funny, it's just a defense mechanism, they set out to humiliating him, there is nothing amusing within that.

    Females can get away with a lot more than males generally in life, they know this, some take advantage. It'd be nice if they weren't let off the hook as easily as they will be.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Silverfish wrote: »
    Not sure if joking about a child being assaulted is acceptable here either, tbh.

    This.
    Lets try and keep this interesting. Please report any posts which you feel cross the line.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    The boys mother should be ashamed of herself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭mink_man


    Silverfish wrote: »
    Not sure if joking about a child being assaulted is acceptable here either, tbh.

    It's after hours, don't want jokes, take it to humanities.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    phasers wrote: »
    I'd be appalled at that story no matter what the gender of the victim was, I think most people would OP. The only reason they're getting away with it is because the boy's stupid mother won't press charges. I don't really see why you felt the need to alter your title.

    the thread in TLL on the same subject has the correct title and people are equally disgusted.

    Aren't there other incidents where the authorities can step in when there is video footage of something, and it isn't down to the person to press charges?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh


    I'm sure some action will be taken whether or not the mother presses charges. Presumably the school can also press charges since it happened on their watch?

    It's fairly horrid, but is it really news?
    Would it not be news if it was the scenario proposed in the OP?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭Dangerous Man


    Perhaps this should be a case that Child Protection Services should look into; I'm disgusted that the boy's parents aren't pressing charges. Poor kid - having parents like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Would it not be news if it was the scenario proposed in the OP?

    It might be, but it doesn't mean it should be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,108 ✭✭✭RachaelVO


    Minstrel27 wrote: »
    The boys mother should be ashamed of herself.

    Why would the boys mother be ashamed???:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    RachaelVO wrote: »
    Why would the boys mother be ashamed???:confused:
    Probaly for not taking any action against the girls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭Salty


    RachaelVO wrote: »
    Why would the boys mother be ashamed???:confused:

    She won't press charges on the wagons who assaulted and humiliated him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,826 ✭✭✭phill106


    As punishment, the same thing should happen to the girls. That sounds fair doesnt it?
    youtube the lot, serve them right and paedobear be dammed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    ^that would be a poor idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    mink_man wrote: »
    It's after hours, don't want jokes, take it to humanities.
    Fair enough.

    You know what would be funny?
    If we got to see a video of that time 3 girls kicked the crap out of you while your friends stood by and laughed.

    You felt great about that, didn't you?

    Ahh, sure it's only AH. Nobody minds that 3 chicks beat the crap out of you, do they?
    They'll laugh at you, but you're not in school any more, so all is well.


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