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Why do some women pretend to be stupid?

  • 04-06-2011 10:31am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭SugarHigh


    Have you ever noticed how some will women will act thick as sh1t even though they really aren't? I think women aren't really rated for their intelligence so there isn't really any consequence if people think you're stupid. However women are heavily rated for their looks so does acting stupid make a woman more attractive?

    It's something that really irritates me and I find it quite patronising when a woman expects you to fall over yourself to help her just because she's pretending to be naive and simple. Maybe it's just because I'm Bi(mostly gay leaning) so it doesn't work on me but it really makes me want to give them a slap.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭Doyler92


    I reckon girls my age try to act stupid as they think the lads like it.

    No thanks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Kadongy


    Sometimes as a front for a manipulative nature tbh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    Maybe you're just meeting the wrong women. Or maybe you're just talking out of your hole.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    It isnt pretending with most people


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 250 ✭✭Matthew23


    Yeah I agree i dont think people act stupid on perpose, they probably just are!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 916 ✭✭✭Bloody Nipples


    Vulnerable, need-a-man-to-save-me, rules of attraction shíte.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    It's like that Joey Essex twonk...pretending to be stupid, or Jade Goody types....when it comes to the media and making money they are savvy as f*ck!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    Maybe you're just meeting the wrong women. Or maybe you're just talking out of your hole.

    Attack the post....not the poster?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭Laika1986


    I know what you mean OP, girl i used to work with was forever acting dumb and clumsy. Eventually i just had to say it to her. There's enough stupid people out there without a need for the smart ones joining in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    Sometimes they're not pretending.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    Stupid guys falls for girl acting stupid so leave the stupid people to their stupid behaviour.

    /


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭cruiser178


    maybe its just easier for them to act to stupid than it is for them to be intelligent,just sayin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭SugarHigh


    bonerm wrote: »
    Sometimes they're not pretending.
    Obviously there are girls who are genuinely stupid but the thread isn't about them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭SugarHigh


    Eve_Dublin wrote: »
    Stupid guys falls for girl acting stupid so leave the stupid people to their stupid behaviour.

    /
    I don't think the girls behavior is stupid if it actually works. I do think the guy is stupid for falling for her manipulative tactics.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    Pretending to be stupid proves that you are.






    stupid that is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 250 ✭✭Matthew23


    Pretending to be stupid proves that you are.






    stupid that is.

    Well what about poeple who act like that so they can make you feel safe so they can do whatever they want? I know their are times I acted like i am stupid so people maybe think oh well hes not going to be any trouble to me. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Cianos


    Kadongy wrote: »
    Sometimes as a front for a manipulative nature tbh

    Yep, I think a lot of guys find it endearing and empowering if a woman appears to be a bit dim, so girls often use this to their advantage.

    Question for the ladies, do girls often act dumb around other girls, or is it just around guys it's done?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    SugarHigh wrote: »
    I don't think the girls behavior is stupid if it actually works. I do think the guy is stupid for falling for her manipulative tactics.

    Ah there's something fairly stupid about wanting a guy to fall for you under the pretense that you're an idiot. I'd call that the behaviour of someone stupid...mayeb not lacking in intelligence but somebody not using their common sense or wisdom, which is even worse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭SugarHigh


    Pretending to be stupid proves that you are.






    stupid that is.
    How does it prove you are stupid if it gets you what you want?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    SugarHigh wrote: »
    Have you ever noticed how some will women will act thick as sh1t even though they really aren't? I think women aren't really rated for their intelligence so there isn't really any consequence if people think you're stupid. However women are heavily rated for their looks so does acting stupid make a woman more attractive?

    It's something that really irritates me and I find it quite patronising when a woman expects you to fall over yourself to help her just because she's pretending to be naive and simple. Maybe it's just because I'm Bi(mostly gay leaning) so it doesn't work on me but it really makes me want to give them a slap.

    I find if I let on how smart I actually am, men tend to react insecure or even hostile. Men, as a general rule and present company obviously excepted, do not like women to have more brains than them, it alienates and upsets them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭SugarHigh


    Eve_Dublin wrote: »
    Ah there's something fairly stupid about wanting a guy to fall for you under the pretense that you're an idiot. I'd call that the behaviour of someone stupid...mayeb not lacking in intelligence but somebody not using their common sense or wisdom, which is even worse.
    I'm not talking about a girl trying to nab a boyfriend. Just in general trying to get what she wants.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    Cianos wrote: »
    Yep, I think a lot of guys find it endearing and empowering if a woman appears to be a bit dim, so girls often use this to their advantage.

    Question for the ladies, do girls often act dumb around other girls, or is it just around guys it's done?

    I've seen girls completely change their personalities once a guy enters the room so no, I've never had a girl act dumb around me without a guy around. Doesn't work with each other.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    SugarHigh wrote: »
    I'm not talking about a girl trying to nab a boyfriend. Just in general trying to get what she wants.

    They know how to play the game. It doesn't take brains to act dumb.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭SugarHigh


    Eve_Dublin wrote: »
    I've seen girls completely change their personalities once a guy enters the room so no, I've never had a girl act dumb around me without a guy around. Doesn't work with each other.
    What about those screechy girls in groups who jump around hugging each other? That always looked faked as fúck, is it just an act?

    They look moronic but I guess they aren't pretending to be stupid just pretending to like each other much more than they actually do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Spread


    Why do dogs lick their balls!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    Cianos wrote: »
    Yep, I think a lot of guys find it endearing and empowering if a woman appears to be a bit dim, so girls often use this to their advantage.

    Question for the ladies, do girls often act dumb around other girls, or is it just around guys it's done?

    I think it's something put on to make the other one feel more at ease. So it can be put on around girls, but since girls tend not to be intimidated by brains so much, I think it happens far less often.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭Columbia


    I think some guys don't want to date a woman who is smarter than them, as it makes them feel less "in control". I see it all the time with my two housemates, a couple. One has an MA in philosophy and one (the girl) a masters (don't know what kind) in maths. The guy, who clearly acts superior but feels inferior to her, constantly strikes up philosophical arguments (almost all of them concerning his own MA thesis) to try and show her how much he knows. The girl just plays along and doesn't try to hit back, I think it's more or less the same principle.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    Shenshen wrote: »
    I find if I let on how smart I actually am, men tend to react insecure or even hostile. Men, as a general rule and present company obviously excepted, do not like women to have more brains than them, it alienates and upsets them.

    This is vert true in a lot of circumstances. Was at a table quiz last night with a bunch of boys...was mainly men there last night and the occasional token girl but I knew all of the answers in the current affairs and classical music round but did they listen? Nope. They listened to each other alright but completely ignored me so I sat back in silence and watched them lose.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    SugarHigh wrote: »
    What about those screechy girls in groups who jump around hugging each other? That always looked faked as fúck, is it just an act?

    They look moronic but I guess they aren't pretending to be stupid just pretending to like each other much more than they actually do.

    They're just young and they grow out of it. Women don't act that way at my age.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    Eve_Dublin wrote: »
    This is vert true in a lot of circumstances. Was at a table quiz last night with a bunch of boys...was mainly men there last night and the occasional token girl but I knew all of the answers in the current affairs and classical music round but did they listen? Nope. They listened to each other alright but completely ignored me so I sat back in silence and watched them lose.

    I once beat a friend of my brother in Trivial Pursuit. He absolutely ignored my very presence for the subsequent 6 months. Still barely says hello to me to this day.
    It's a shame, cause we did get along great before that, and it made for some rather strained situations in the pub.

    And that's just one incident, I could go on.
    So the real question should be why do guys act like dicks to girls who are smarter than them, not why do girls notice and dumb themselves down to avoid being treated that way?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    Shenshen wrote: »
    And that's just one incident, I could go on.
    So the real question should be why do guys act like dicks to girls who are smarter than them, not why do girls notice and dumb themselves down to avoid being treated that way?

    I think we've got to the root of the problem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭SugarHigh


    Shenshen wrote: »
    I find if I let on how smart I actually am, men tend to react insecure or even hostile. Men, as a general rule and present company obviously excepted, do not like women to have more brains than them, it alienates and upsets them.
    I think this is the uncomfortable truth. :(

    The gender reverse of this would be I don't think girls want there boyfriend to be too good looking as it detracts from them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    SugarHigh wrote: »
    I think this is the uncomfortable truth. :(

    The gender reverse of this would be I don't think girls want there boyfriend to be too good looking as it detracts from them.

    Haha! Yeah? I've NEVER experienced or witnessed that in my life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    SugarHigh wrote: »
    I think this is the uncomfortable truth. :(

    The gender reverse of this would be I don't think girls want there boyfriend to be too good looking as it detracts from them.

    *roflmao That WOULD explain how some car-crash-faces end up with gorgeous girls! ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    Shenshen wrote: »
    *roflmao That WOULD explain how some car-crash-faces end up with gorgeous girls! ;)

    Looks matter less to women. That's all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭RMD


    Looks are a bonus, but a woman who can maintain an intellectual conversation is a god send.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭SugarHigh


    Eve_Dublin wrote: »
    I think we've got to the root of the problem.

    I don't think so. I think you've found a way to blame guys for girls being manipulative. I don't think a guy will be a dick to you just because you're smarter but I do think he will find you less attractive.

    Women will do this even when they aren't interested in the guy. Acting simple means that someone will jump to the rescue and women manipulate this.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    SugarHigh wrote: »
    I think this is the uncomfortable truth. :(

    The gender reverse of this would be I don't think girls want there boyfriend to be too good looking as it detracts from them.

    Or more accurately, they'll get insecure and accuse him of flirting with every other and sundry, get huffy, silent treatment etc. until he tells her she's the only star in the sky.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    Eve_Dublin wrote: »
    Looks matter less to women. That's all.

    LOL!....and women are OK with a micro penis BF :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Toby Take a Bow


    Shenshen wrote: »
    I find if I let on how smart I actually am, men tend to react insecure or even hostile. Men, as a general rule and present company obviously excepted, do not like women to have more brains than them, it alienates and upsets them.

    I know this is an idea generally assumed to be true, and maybe it is true, but nearly all of the girls I've gone out with were at least a little bit more intelligent than me, and in some cases much more intelligent. All of my male friends (and these are all very, very different guys) have been in long-term relationships with girls that have definitely been incredibly intelligent (and in many ways more intelligent than the guy).

    For me, there's nothing more unattractive than stupidity. Well, there are probably lots of other things, but stupidity is up there with the rest of them.

    Guys play this pretending to be stupid game too, though. Bertie would be a prime example of this: pretending to be stupid to make people let their guard down.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭SugarHigh


    Eve_Dublin wrote: »
    Looks matter less to women. That's all.
    Yea that's why they spend an hour getting done up because they don't care about looks.:D

    That's why fashion is almost completely aimed at women.

    I think women are intimated by really good looking guys.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    SugarHigh wrote: »
    I don't think so. I think you've found a way to blame guys for girls being manipulative. I don't think a guy will be a dick to you just because you're smarter but I do think he will find you less attractive.

    Women will do this even when they aren't interested in the guy. Acting simple means that someone will jump to the rescue and women manipulate this.

    Most women don't do this and most men don't want a stupid girlfriend and aren't scared of a woman with brains.

    The woman is being manipulative (I'm not saying she's the innocent party here at all...I hate women who do this) and the man is being sexist for believing a woman shouldn't be cleverer than him.

    I saw this carry on when I was younger but people grow out of it. I've never gone out with a guy who wanted me to act like a ditz.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    SugarHigh wrote: »
    Yea that's why they spend an hour getting done up because they don't care about looks.:D

    That's why fashion is almost completely aimed at women.

    I think women are intimated by really good looking guys.

    Men judge women on looks more than visa versa...it's science man...this is not my opinion.

    I've ONLY gone out with really good looking guys. I couldn't have sex with someone I didn't fancy the pants off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭SugarHigh


    Eve_Dublin wrote: »
    Most women don't do this and most men don't want a stupid girlfriend and aren't scared of a woman with brains.

    The woman is being manipulative (I'm not saying she's the innocent party here at all...I hate women who do this) and the man is being sexist for believing a woman shouldn't be cleverer than him.

    I saw this carry on when I was younger but people grow out of it. I've never gone out with a guy who wanted me to act like a ditz.
    It's definitely not something all women grow out of. There are plenty of middle aged women who do this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    Women spend so much more time on their physical appearance than men because it matters more to men than to us.

    You keep missing my point....are you acting dumb to try and score me? ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    SugarHigh wrote: »
    I don't think so. I think you've found a way to blame guys for girls being manipulative. I don't think a guy will be a dick to you just because you're smarter but I do think he will find you less attractive.

    Women will do this even when they aren't interested in the guy. Acting simple means that someone will jump to the rescue and women manipulate this.

    Sorry, but it's my experience that they do. And I couldn't care less if most of them find me attractive or not. If they however make my social life more difficult just because they feel I upstaged them by demonstrably knowing more than them, I will feel inclined not to let them know that I do.

    Same goes for being handy, actually. A woman who knows how to use a power tool is an affront to many. Again, been there, done that, let the bloke ruin the door frame for the sake of peace.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭SugarHigh


    Eve_Dublin wrote: »
    Women spend so much more time on their physical appearance than men because it matters more to men than to us.
    So what happened to women dress for each themselves.?:D

    If you said women dress for men in TLL you'd probably be banned.:D
    You keep missing my point....are you acting dumb to try and score me? ;)
    Middle aged?...no thanks.:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    LOL!....and women are OK with a micro penis BF :rolleyes:

    Ye wha? How does a woman know what size a man is and what has penis size got to do with looks? Penises are ugly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭Salty


    I would never act stupid around a guy, why should I play down the fact that I'm not a brain-dead bimbo just to make him feel all smart and manly?

    I always thought guys would prefer girls who they could have a decent conversation with, and maybe someone who has an intelligent sense of humour?

    Sometimes, though, guys treat girls like their stupid, or imply that they think so. I had this happen to me with one of my boyfriend's friends. I'm doing the LC and his friend implied in some way that I'm too dim to do well, even though I had never given him any reason to think that. I can't even remember what he said, but I remember my boyfriend having to explicitly say no, she's not thick actually. Perhaps he's the type of guy that's intimidated by intelligence in women?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    SugarHigh wrote: »
    So what happened to women dress for each themselves.?:D

    If you said women dress for men in TLL you'd probably be banned.:D

    Middle aged?...no thanks.:)

    Middle aged? 31? Oh God...*runs off and cries.....*


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