Britians Got Talent Sees The Police Called In.

Biggins

English police are investigating Britians Got Talent at the request of the makers.

Cowell calls in police over 'Britain's Got Talent' fix claim

(AFP) – 4 hours ago

LONDON — Pop mogul Simon Cowell has called in police over Internet allegations that his firm groomed a contestant on "Britain's Got Talent" and that the popular TV show is therefore fixed, police said Friday.

Cowell's lawyers made the complaint to officers after an anonymous blogger alleged that Ronan Parke, the 12-year-old favourite to win Saturday's final, had been secretly advised by his company for two years.

The blogger claimed Parke already has a management deal with Cowell's company Syco and had received guidance on his hairstyle, clothing and mannerisms.

London police have yet to decide if they will take action over the complaint.

A Scotland Yard spokesman said: "An allegation of malicious communications was made to Kensington and Chelsea police on Thursday June 2.

"The allegation is being considered."

The schoolboy, who bears a passing resemblance to teenage heartthrob singer Justin Bieber, won the viewers' vote on Monday, putting him straight through to the Saturday show.

Syco and Sony Music said they would take legal action to "prevent further publication of these unfounded allegations".

Syco said in a statement: "There has been speculation on the Internet that Britain's Got Talent finalist Ronan Parke was known to and worked with Syco/Sony Music before entering the show. There is no truth in this story whatsoever.

"Ronan first came to Syco/Sony's attention when he entered this year's competition."

Parke's mother Maggie also dismissed claims that he was auditioned by talent scouts after being spotted performing at a birthday party for a friend of his parents.

"It's laughable, to be perfectly honest with you, and it couldn't be further from the truth," she told BBC radio."There's no foundation in it whatsoever."

Cowell has endured a turbulent few weeks after British pop star Cheryl Cole was dropped from the judging panel of the US version of another of his shows, "The X Factor", reportedly because American audiences could not understand her accent.

For those into further detail, read this: http://talk.gagajoyjoy.com/displayForumTopic/content/215770785223215492

Further reported details: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1347355/Britains-Got-Talent-2011-How-Simon-Cowell-rigging-show.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

I personally think, there is something to be investigated given the funny goings on last year of previous shows associated and run by Cowell.
Last years X-Factor alone, was a disgrace in regards manipulating people, phone voters and the media.

Once agan we see police actions due to a blogger or someone speaking out in the meanwhile, across the net.
Is the use of the net now yet again from another direction, being tried to be silenced or abilities curtailed?

suicide_circus

I'd love if it were true and spelled the end of Simon cowells empire and these ****ty tv talent shows.

Handsome Bob

Wouldn't be surprised tbh, just by looking at the kid with his Bieberesque hair cut I can tell that Cowell has been grooming him.*

*for the music business that is.

Biggins

The original web article exposing the latest fiasco has now been removed from the following link - and a further message is posted: http://justpaste.it/c8g

However as the link provided above, a copy of the well detailed alligations can be found here: http://talk.gagajoyjoy.com/displayForumTopic/content/215770785223215492

oppenheimer1

The Police were called in, I wonder was it a Sting?

abouttobebanned

It's very obviously fixed...much like the x-factor. They give themselves away by the ludicrous decisions that are made. One that stands out is calling back that britney impersonator. I cringe when I see cowell saying things like....I don't know why they put you through...when it's so obvious that he's pulling all the strings.

I'd love to know what kind of gag orders these judges must sign before they work with cowell. Probably something along the lines of "I agree that if I blow the whistle on the behind the scenes skullduggery all my earnings will be paid back in full and I will also be liable to massive legal proceedings".

It stinks and I really hope it all comes out soon.

Oh and watch out for cowell probably voting against this ronan person soon, but making sure that the other judges have him safely booked in (or some other way that he knows his vote and opinion will be meaningless). What a detestful specimen of a man.

And...just like in life...it's always the people who treat you like **** that you try and impress the most.

syklops

The police were called in by Syco. To investigate what exactly? What crime has been committed?

cml387

Private Eye's ex-editor Richard Ingrams once said that he decided a story was true by hitting it and listening for a slight ring.

This story does have that slight ring.

Biggins

syklops wrote: »

The police were called in by Syco. To investigate what exactly? What crime has been committed?

Syco claims that the blog breaks the English legal rules of Section one of (1) (iii) Malicious Communications Act 1988 - in that what the insider has stated in false and thus just malicious in nature.
That they hold 'no water'.

Personally I suspect, they are trying to now do some damage limitation and shut the person speaking, up for good.
If Simon/Syco is totally innocent, they have the right to defend themselves in a courtroom.
As with the Giggs case, once again the internet is being used as a method of spreading either true or false allegations - and somehow the English are trying to find ways to cope with this.

ebixa82

Celebrity or Tv forum?

Biggins

ebixa82 wrote: »

Celebrity or Tv forum?

Normally I would have posted it there but as the underlying situation is that the internet once again is being used to voice alternative views, etc... the matter goes beyond just the show itself and further reaches back for example to freedom of expression, the Giggs case and other matters.

The police called in is just another action brought about by an internet user - and this I suspect is now going to become more common.

ebixa82

Simon Cowell is so powerful and the general population are so stupid that this will blow over.

There is no such thing as bad publicity. I wonder how many more people will tune in to watch that small kid they read about in the paper!

Kevin Duffy

The Police were a great band in their day and the music has largely stood the test of time, but I don't see them winning BGT.

Biggins

ebixa82 wrote: »

Simon Cowell is so powerful and the general population are so stupid that this will blow over.

There is no such thing as bad publicity. I wonder how many more people will tune in to watch that small kid they read about in the paper!

I'm sure they will - he is a master of manipulation when it comes to creating publicity, etc.

In the meantime the original blog that tried to state what it did has been closed down. This I'm guessing, was able to be done quickly for it was once emanating from English servers rather than foreign ones - like Twitter for example.

abouttobebanned

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

The Police were a great band in their day and the music has largely stood the test of time, but I don't see them winning BGT.

The joke was done buddy.

Wibbs

Britain's got special needs talent a fix? No way. Really? Like the x factor and all that similar shíte it's a bad soap opera with autotune and glitter and bad acting, with a side order of often mentalist members of the public. Lorded over by Cowell, the Jeremy Kyle of pop. It works though. The mob lap this crap up. Cicero said of the mob that it was unpredictable. Far be it from me to disagree with the chap, but I do. The mob is very predictable. Predictably thick and tasteless.

padd b1975

Biggins wrote: »

Normally I would have posted it there but as the underlying situation is that the internet once again is being used to voice alternative views, etc... the matter goes beyond just the show itself and further reaches back for example to freedom of expression, the Giggs case and other matters.

The police called in is just another action brought about by an internet user - and this I suspect is now going to become more common.

Conspiracy Theories forum?

Liam Byrne

It should have been obvious last year when Cowell undermined his repeatedly-stated stance on the twits.

This is my main objection to so-called "reality" TV.

However if I were a court judge I'd throw out the case pointing out that anyone who's not an idiot knows that "reality" TV isn't "real"

al28283

Original source of the article seems pretty suspect. I reckon Syco called in the police because they know that these specific allegations are not true and they can prove it. That would make it alot easier to dismiss any future accusations of fixing that might be true

http://iamjamesward.wordpress.com/2011/06/02/syco/

Biggins

padd b1975 wrote: »

Conspiracy Theories forum?

Where is "conspiracy" in regards to the police being called in on internet users expressing views/possible whistle-blowing?
Their views/possible whistle-blowing posted might be wrong - but that don't mean it might be an overreaction sometimes to have the police called in?
(A question - not a statement indicating a particular view in that in this case, they are wrong to do so)
I see this latest police action as a further indication generally of the way things are heading or being stamped down upon for internet users.

I'm not the only one this last few years that is concerned about the internet being stemmed coming from a number of directions.
Even Sarkosy last week spoke out against the use of the net and free expression. Asking for more (what many people view) greater net restricting laws to be brought in.

padd b1975

Biggins wrote: »

Where is "conspiracy" in regards to the police being called in on internet users expressing views/possible whistle-blowing?
Their views/possible whistle-blowing posted might be wrong - but that don't mean it might be an overreaction sometimes to have the police called in?
(A question - not a statement indicating a particular view in that in this case, they are wrong to do so)
I see this latest police action as a further indication generally of the way things are heading or being stamped down upon for internet users.

I'm not the only one this last few years that is concerned about the internet being stemmed coming from a number of directions.
Even Sarkosy last week spoke out against the use of the net and free expression. Asking for more (what many people view) greater net restricting laws to be brought in.

You just answered your own question there.

Mr Benevolent

No offence Biggins, but this revelation is about as important as Mary 'Me So Horny' Harney.

Mr.Crinklewood

They should change the Theme Music to that of "Jim will Fix it", and put somebody called Jim in charge of proceedings.

El Horseboxo

ebixa82 wrote: »

Celebrity or Tv forum?

Who gives a flying fùck what forum it's in for fùck sake.

SeaFields

With the amount of money poured in by the public via voting into these show there should be some sort of independent verification that the public gets what it has paid for.

As for this type of reality tv, the bubble will burst just like the big brother one did. Simon Cowell wont worry about that tho as he rakes in £100's millions a year in the mean time.

General Zod

PR piece by BGT to gather interest in the final.

Gyalist

No such newspaper called The English Times.

recylingbin

Change title to 'Simon Cowell seeks publicity for his **** tv programme' please.

Chuck Stone

Nuke it from orbit.

HisGreatness

Music forum?

recylingbin

HisGreatness wrote: »

Music forum?

Hardly.
Arts maybe.

Luxie

syklops wrote: »

The police were called in by Syco. To investigate what exactly? What crime has been committed?

Crimes against talent

krudler

I assumed Louis Walsh would be more the grooming type

hardCopy

krudler wrote: »

I assumed Louis Walsh would be more the grooming type

He has his hands full with those two other muppets.

This will end up with little Ronan sobbing to a magazine about how the big bad interweb hackers are out to ruin this poor ten year olds career. Probably with some reference to how this isn't the first time he's had to face adversity in his life.

It'll give him a bigger push than a win would have done on it's own.

dublin forum??!//

orourkeda

Bring the death penalty back. Grooming a 12 yea old was a rather unfortunate choice of words.

orourkeda

But his balls havent dropped yet.

This wreaks havoc while trying to hit the high notes.

Biggins

Gyalist wrote: »

No such newspaper called The English Times.

There is one called the Irish Times so for those that don't know which Times I was talking about, I clarified the matter - sorry if you don't understand what others are able to grasp - in other words, the reasons why I referred to it as The English Times.

Grammatically it is the right way to put it too by the way.

bonerm

This is not a new concept. Channel 4 Big Brother has been doing this from the start by planting ringers and manipulating their edits to help the contestants they want to win.

I love the idea the general public have that they are somehow actively contributing to this entertainment process. All they're contributing is their cash.

All it'll take it one big whistle-blow and hopefully this television format will be destroyed.

iguana

bonerm wrote: »

This is not a new concept. Channel 4 Big Brother has been doing this from the start by planting ringers and manipulating their edits to help the contestants they want to win.

Big Brother was the first time I ever saw this happening. It's something I always knew happened but the first time I actually saw it was almost mind-blowing. There was a girl in the first series, Sada, who was big into new age stuff. In one episode (there were no 24 hour broadcasts back then) she was talking about how unlike herself she felt in the house. She said that normally she was so in tune with the world that if a fly landed on her she would ask it to fly away and it would, but in the house she was so out of tune with things that a fly had landed on her days before and she swatted it. From that day onward all clips of her were of her saying she could ask flies to leave her alone, followed by a clip on her swatting it.

It was really unfair on her. Sure, the whole in tune with flies thing is bollocks, but why make her out to be a lying hypocrite as well?:mad:

Gyalist

Biggins wrote: »

There is one called the Irish Times so for those that don't know which Times I was talking about, I clarified the matter - sorry if you don't understand what others are able to grasp - in other words, the reasons why I referred to it as The English Times.

Grammatically it is the right way to put it too by the way.

How does grammar come into it? The point that I am making is that the correct official title of the newspaper is The Times. All the others have a geographical marker in their title, e.g. The Irish Times, The New York Times, The Times of India. That's enough to differentiate them, unless you happen to hold some sort of parochial, Ireland-centric worldview.

Biggins

Gyalist wrote: »

How does grammar come into it? The point that I am making is that the correct official title of the newspaper is The Times. All the others have a geographical marker in their title, e.g. The Irish Times, The New York Times, The Times of India. That's enough to differentiate them, unless you happen to hold some sort of parochial, Ireland-centric worldview.

Well the rest here must have understood why I referred to it as the English Times.
Its the first time in years that anyone has moaned about me making sure it's clarified that its the English Times the article comes from.
Pardon us from trying to differentiate for the sake of clarity!

Geeze, some people have little to moan about!

We're Irish. To differenciate between the two timeses papers we call the English paper the English, or London, Times.

I've used Dublin Times on occasion when describing the Irish Times.

You don't like it? Tough. Feck off grammar nazi.

Capt'n Midnight

Gyalist wrote: »

Ireland-centric worldview.

The Irish Times is a paper of record and independently owned, so many of us would treat it as being more authoritive than the stablemate of The Sun.

Also far more of us would read it than the UK version, the Irish Times is a very borrowable newspaper even if it's a few days old.

Capt'n Midnight

when I saw the thread title I thought it might be because the program violated the Trade Descriptions Act. :pac:

iguana

The paper's name is The Times, inserting "English" is obviously incorrect but people do so as it is common in Ireland to leave "Irish" out when referring to The Irish Times. As a result The Irish Times is called the Times, so they then erroneously call The Times, The English Times.

The best way to refer to The Times while ensuring the reader knows which Times would be to write; The Times (English).

strokemyclover

As Simon said in a meeting once: ‘The public need to be told who to vote for’.”

They certainly do!

The man makes me sick but you have to give him credit for taking advantage of those who demand to be taken advantage of. Yet another reason for despair all round I say!