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Which is worse. (Unfaithfulness)

  • 02-06-2011 11:07pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭


    So this is sort of split off from a thread in another forum and a couple of things people said just got me thinking about it.

    If you were in what was a presumably faithful relationship ('faithful relationship = unspoken agreement not to have sex with other people, which is what most of them are, your traditional boyfriend/girlfriend situation, or marriage, whatever {but I guess that would be a spoken agreement}) and the other person cheated on you, which would you think would be the worse out of the poll options (there's a poll coming, hold your horses). Also, the person apologises for the transgression and promises not to do it again, they still love you bla bla etc.

    For the purposes of the thread:
    Affair = A relationship on all levels (sexual, emotional etc) with another person while in a relationship with a current girlfriend/boyfriend.
    Fling = A once (or maybe at a push twice/trice) casual sex thing with a random person you wanted to have sex with.

    [Now of course there are going to be the "everything is just as bad as everything" crew, but it's not, is it? There has to be something to tip you over one side of the fence, in all situations, really.]

    (Jaysus I've made this far more complicated than it had to be).

    Which would you view as the worse transgression? 36 votes

    (I'm Male) - She says - "He meant nothing to me it was just sex."
    0%
    (I'm Female) - He says - "She meant nothing to me it was just sex."
    38%
    Joe10000grizzlyBodhidharmaSnakeblooddsmythyFearDarkDeedsieScrambled eggtonycascarinoFukuyamaKnex*Shotgun_TEXASFerris_BuellerFeckfox 14 votes
    (I'm Male) - She says - "He meant a lot to me, but I want to be with you"
    13%
    candy-gal1hypersquirrelcareymaryredz11shamtastic 5 votes
    (I'm Female) - He says - "She meant a lot to me, but I want to be with you"
    47%
    Private SnafuhatrickpatrickOutlawPeteDr. Feelgoodhairyfairy00Niall09minidazzlerEl Guapo!GuillLeeg17BodhisophaNotExactlynermal15pragmatic1lezzaGroupDeals7sr2z3fely84g5 17 votes


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Fukuyama


    (I'm Female) - He says - "She meant nothing to me it was just sex."
    Perhaps go and write your own article you half-assed journo?

    Edit: I'm in a foul mood which may come across in the above original post. My intentions still stand however. If you're not a journalist working for the Metro or the Herald, then why are you creating such an accurately approached poll in AH?

    No Pulitzer prize for you! Bad journo! BAD!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,068 ✭✭✭Bodhisopha


    (I'm Female) - He says - "She meant a lot to me, but I want to be with you"
    They are not the same, not even close. The affair is much worse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭Ricardo G


    I had a relationship with................YOUR MA !!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 916 ✭✭✭Bloody Nipples


    It's irrelevant cos they'd be out on their ear either way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Dean0088 wrote: »
    Perhaps go and write your own article you half-assed journo?
    Bodhisopha wrote: »
    They are not the same, not even close. The affair is much worse.
    Ricardo G wrote: »
    I had a relationship with................YOUR MA !!!

    :D All classic never say die responses, and I salute you.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Op what's the (hic) question again ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,398 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Ricardo G wrote: »
    I had a relationship with................YOUR MA !!!

    You're on form tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,399 ✭✭✭sonic85


    there all as bad as each other to be honest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭LighterGuy


    All answers are all BOLL*X!
    If someone cheats, doesnt matter what they say, its all crap you're been fed.

    Truth is "I had sex with them because I wanted to"
    or "I had sex with them because i've been using you"
    you rarely hear the real reasons in this world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    (I'm Female) - He says - "She meant a lot to me, but I want to be with you"
    I voted but only after it took me a while to decipher your post! You really did make it more complicated than it needed to be!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    It's irrelevant cos they'd be out on their ear either way.
    Agreed. Cheating is cheating.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,448 ✭✭✭✭Cupcake_Crisis


    They'd be sent packing either way so it doesnt really matter


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Dean09 wrote: »
    I voted but only after it took me a while to decipher your post! You really did make it more complicated than it needed to be!!

    This is what I do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    (I'm Female) - He says - "She meant a lot to me, but I want to be with you"
    It's the difference between monogamy and fidelity. I would prefer a faithful relationship with polygamy to a monogamous relationship with infidelity.

    I mean, I am attracted to alot of people I don't really know I am cut out for a single woman for the rest of my life.

    So yeah, it meaning something is far worse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭Ricardo G


    Turtyturd wrote: »
    You're on MY MA tonight.

    FYP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    strobe wrote: »
    S
    [Now of course there are going to be the "everything is just as bad as everything" crew, but it's not, is it? There has to be something to tip you over one side of the fence, in all situations, really.]
    It's irrelevant cos they'd be out on their ear either way.
    sonic85 wrote: »
    there all as bad as each other to be honest.
    They'd be sent packing either way so it doesnt really matter

    Yeah, obviously that is going to be the main answer given, like I acknowledged in the OP (up there at the top ^^) but which would make you most angry as you threw them out or most upset/disappointed as you ended it? Is the question.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,448 ✭✭✭✭Cupcake_Crisis


    strobe wrote: »
    Yeah, obviously that is going to be the main answer given, like I acknowledged in the OP (up there at the top ^^) but which would make you most angry as you threw them out or most upset/disappointed as you ended it? Is the question.

    Just knowing that they had been with someone else is what would hurt me, duration doesnt really matter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,398 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Ricardo G wrote: »
    FYP

    Cool....close the coffin when you're done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Just knowing that they had been with someone else is what would hurt me, duration doesnt really matter.

    Well that's fair enough I guess. I accept some people will not be able to choose one in the whole "would you rather be punched in the face or kicked in the face" vein of things. It's not really about duration though. More to do with, would you be more hurt by them having sex with a random person they met in a club or having a relationship with a person they got to know and grew to care about, thing.

    I think it's a bit complex, in that on one hand if they are just sleeping with a random person it could be put down to a once/twice off moment of 'weakness' but on the other hand it could be said that they didn't think too much of you if they would give into one moment of weakness.

    But on one foot if they were having a relationship with someone else then it could be looked on more favourably than the former, in that they weren't just risking your relationship and risking hurting you for a moment of weakness, but may have been risking it for what may be deep meaningful sh1t. Where as on the other foot it wasn't just an instinctual craving they were satisfying, it was a complete betrayal on and emotional and personal level as well as a sexual one.

    Or something... (I'm sure I had some conceptual crap in mind. Bear with me...loading.....)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,838 ✭✭✭theboss80


    Easy

    Cheating of any form = End of relationship (end of trust)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭7sr2z3fely84g5


    (I'm Female) - He says - "She meant a lot to me, but I want to be with you"
    i think it be dead in the water of any reconciliation if it did happen,there always be fear of happening again,but its up to the two people to agree if they can start over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,399 ✭✭✭sonic85


    id be equally hurt if it was a fling or if it was a meaningful relationship. theres no real difference in my eyes cheating is cheating


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 460 ✭✭careymary


    (I'm Male) - She says - "He meant a lot to me, but I want to be with you"
    I picked -(I'm Female) - He says - "She meant nothing to me it was just sex."

    I think if someone cheated on me just for a fling/casual thing I would be more annoyed/ hurt, it would be like they were throwing away everything we had for nothing- if they had feelings for someone else, I wouldnt like it but in a wierd way i could understand it more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,068 ✭✭✭Bodhisopha


    (I'm Female) - He says - "She meant a lot to me, but I want to be with you"
    sonic85 wrote: »
    id be equally hurt if it was a fling or if it was a meaningful relationship. theres no real difference in my eyes cheating is cheating

    Which would leave you more psychologically and emotionally scarred in the long run?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Kadongy


    Not sure which one is worse, and I dont wish to imagine either in order to decide.

    The just sex thing would be more disgusting though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭DWCommuter


    "He meant nothing to me, it was just sex", is bad, but "He meant a lot to me, but I want you", is a big kick in the bollix altogether.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 642 ✭✭✭Contessa Raven


    I can't choose.

    On one hand, I'd be angry and upset about a fling because I would see it as throwing our relationship away for meaningless sex.

    On the other hand, I'd feel so hurt and deceived by the affair. Affairs tend to involve a lot of creeping around, lying and deceit. I would feel so betrayed that a person who's supposed to love and care about me would treat me like an idiot.

    I'd end the relationship over either scenario. They're both horrible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,399 ✭✭✭sonic85


    DWCommuter wrote: »
    "He meant nothing to me, it was just sex", is bad, but "He meant a lot to me, but I want you", is a big kick in the bollix altogether.

    something similar happened me years ago but it was more along the lines of i love him and i love you - i just cant decide. devastating


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,399 ✭✭✭sonic85


    Bodhisopha wrote: »
    Which would leave you more psychologically and emotionally scarred in the long run?

    i cant say. i really think id feel pretty much the same no matter what the scenario. playing away shows a real lack of respect on a basic level in my opinion. dont think id ever be able to look at someone in the eye again if they messed me around. id just be angry and distrustful all the time and thats not a good way to be


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,554 ✭✭✭✭alwaysadub


    I'd be very hurt by both, but I think it'd hurt me more to know he had an affair and had feelings for someone else. That's being sneaky and devious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭DWCommuter


    You really have to stay with a cheating partner to fully understand how soul destroying and utterly lacking in self respect, it can be. I experienced it many many years ago. It made me a lot tougher. One of the best lessons I ever learned.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 152 ✭✭Feckfox


    (I'm Female) - He says - "She meant nothing to me it was just sex."
    I voted wrong.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    strobe wrote: »
    Yeah, obviously that is going to be the main answer given, like I acknowledged in the OP (up there at the top ^^) but which would make you most angry as you threw them out or most upset/disappointed as you ended it? Is the question.
    I dunno if I could pick one that would make me most angry, cause one way or another, it's amounting to the same thing. I reckon I'd be equally angry with either, one is saying it was a throwaway thing meaning nothing, the other is like they are trying to justify it by saying they are important to them. Just how I see it I spose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    (I'm Female) - He says - "She meant a lot to me, but I want to be with you"
    Cheating transforms your partner from someone you care about into an instant enemy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,568 ✭✭✭candy-gal1


    (I'm Male) - She says - "He meant a lot to me, but I want to be with you"
    Imho, all cheating is bad and I would never cheat as i dont see the point of it- if your with someone and love them then why cheat?! thats what being single is for, getting it all out of your system :)
    But cheating on someone and having feelings for the person youve cheated with is a hell of a lot worse and hurtful than having it as just sex, meaningless and random, tbh


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Little Acorn


    careymary wrote: »
    I picked -(I'm Female) - He says - "She meant nothing to me it was just sex."

    I think if someone cheated on me just for a fling/casual thing I would be more annoyed/ hurt, it would be like they were throwing away everything we had for nothing- if they had feelings for someone else, I wouldnt like it but in a wierd way i could understand it more.

    I would be the complete opposite.
    He would be dumped either way, but if he had a one night stand I would think him an idiot who I didn't want to be with, but I would believe that he did still love me and had made a mistake.
    If it was an affair however, on top of the long term lying and deceitfulness that involves, the main thing that would be in my mind is, that as he had feelings for or felt like he loved another woman, then he couldn't possibly truly love me the way I expect to be loved by my boyfriend.
    Even if he chose me in the end, I still wouldn't want anything to do with him because I would feel like his love for me wasn't enough, if he could so easily love another whilst still with me.
    An affair would hurt me a million zillion times more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭Azureus


    Random fling-bad
    Affair-unforgivably ill never speak to you again bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭willow tree


    oh its such a murky area, both are painful.. i guess if it was going on a while and he had feelings for her i would wonder why he didnt choose to leave and have a relationship with her? instead of acting like a fool and lying to me? thats somehting thats well thought out, where as a one night thing could be a mistake done in anger/stupidity (although a mistake he would learn from as it would be out the door with him)...
    i also think who its with is a big factor, id be more hurt if it was a friend/sister than a randomer (dont sh*t on your own doorstep). ick, what a horrible thing to do to someone you're meant to love, down with this sort of thing...
    incidentally my dad cheated for years on my mum and now he is the joke of the family, we have no respect for him, you can never take it back


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