Manners

Elba101

Where have they gone? 'Please', 'thank you' and 'you're welcome' seem to have dropped out of people's vocabulary and it's really starting to pi$$ me off. I always say 'thanks you' when someone does something nice like hold a door or something. I always say 'please' when I ask for something in a shop and if I get a thanks I say 'you're welcome'. I've held door open for people who haven't bothered to even look in my direction and nod a thank you.

Old people seem to be the worst at this I've found.

It's really starting to annoy. Anyone else think the same?

Sykk

Danke

Orando Broom

Elba101 wrote: »

Where have they gone? 'Please', 'thank you' and 'you're welcome' seem to have dropped out of people's vocabulary and it's really starting to pi$$ me off. I always say 'thanks you' when someone does something nice like hold a door or something. I always say 'please' when I ask for something in a shop and if I get a thanks I say 'you're welcome'. I've held door open for people who haven't bothered to even look in my direction and nod a thank you.

Old people seem to be the worst at this I've found.

It's really starting to annoy. Anyone else think the same?

THANKS W***E!!!!!

Liam Byrne

Agreed.

However it's also bad manners to use large Calibri font on boards.....

Elba101

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Agreed.

However it's also bad manners to use large Calibri font on boards.....

I know! I don't know why it came out like that

Mr Benevolent

Load of toss OP. Your claim has been trotted out for the last 4000 years. Think about it logically, do a little research and you'll find that nothing has changed.

Elba101

Confab wrote: »

Load of toss OP. Your claim has been trotted out for the last 4000 years. Think about it logically, do a little research and you'll find that nothing has changed.

I don't know about this... I can remember getting more pleases and thank yous when I was younger. Even when i was 21/22 (which wasn't that long ago) I can remember people being more polite.

jme2010

Elba101 wrote: »

I can remember getting more pleases and thank yous when I was younger.

I used to think people where a lot taller when I was younger.

Ghost Buster

Elba101 wrote: »

Where have they gone? 'Please', 'thank you' and 'you're welcome' seem to have dropped out of people's vocabulary and it's really starting to pi$$ me off. I always say 'thanks you' when someone does something nice like hold a door or something. I always say 'please' when I ask for something in a shop and if I get a thanks I say 'you're welcome'. I've held door open for people who haven't bothered to even look in my direction and nod a thank you.

Old people seem to be the worst at this I've found.

It's really starting to annoy. Anyone else think the same?

Ah. Rude old people. Thats a whole other thread. 'I have the right to act and treat others however i like . I have earned it by not being dead yet".
Drives me nuts!!

hacked

Yeah, it annoys the hell out of me too. I live in Dublin, so sometime I wonder if it's just living in the capital. Cities are always ruder!

the_syco

Elba101 wrote: »

I've held door open for people who haven't bothered to even look in my direction and nod a thank you.

To open a door for someone shows you are kind. Opening a door to get thanks shows you are doing so not out of kindness, but rather some sort of gratification...

Elba101

the_syco wrote: »

To open a door for someone shows you are kind. Opening a door to get thanks shows you are doing so not out of kindness, but rather some sort of gratification...

No, no not doing it for a thank you. I don't get thrills out of that believe me... It's polite to say thank you when someone does that. That's all.

Elba101

hacked wrote: »

Yeah, it annoys the hell out of me too. I live in Dublin, so sometime I wonder if it's just living in the capital. Cities are always ruder!

They are! London being the worst from my experience!

Adamantium

Elba101 wrote: »

Where have they gone? 'Please', 'thank you' and 'you're welcome' seem to have dropped out of people's vocabulary and it's really starting to pi$$ me off. I always say 'thanks you' when someone does something nice like hold a door or something. I always say 'please' when I ask for something in a shop and if I get a thanks I say 'you're welcome'. I've held door open for people who haven't bothered to even look in my direction and nod a thank you.

Old people seem to be the worst at this I've found.

It's really starting to annoy. Anyone else think the same?

You're a thanks whore aren't you?

Kevin Duffy

Confab wrote: »

Load of toss OP. Your claim has been trotted out for the last 4000 years. Think about it logically, do a little research and you'll find that nothing has changed.

Oh, the ironing.

JohnMarston

Elba101 wrote: »

Where have they gone? 'Please', 'thank you' and 'you're welcome' seem to have dropped out of people's vocabulary and it's really starting to pi$$ me off. I always say 'thanks you' when someone does something nice like hold a door or something. I always say 'please' when I ask for something in a shop and if I get a thanks I say 'you're welcome'. I've held door open for people who haven't bothered to even look in my direction and nod a thank you.

Old people seem to be the worst at this I've found.

It's really starting to annoy. Anyone else think the same?

Has it occurred to you that people sometimes have bad days. Its nothing personal, they just have other things on their mind. Having manners doesn't mean you expect thanks back all the time

18AD

So lack of appreciation for your little efforts to be nice throughout the day makes other people rude?

Be happy with what you do yourself, otherwise pack it in.

A much more settling approach is to consider people who go out of their way to be mean as rude. Otherwise you'll be needlessly pissed off with most of your human interaction.

EverEvolving

Utter scutter OP, you just gotta stop hanging with the riff raff.

Elba101

JohnMarston wrote: »

Has it occurred to you that people sometimes have bad days. Its nothing personal, they just have other things on their mind. Having manners doesn't mean you expect thanks back all the time

Ah I don't think you understand what I'm saying... I don't do nice things because I want recognition, I do it to be nice. But i did hold a door open for someone and they just walked right through without saying thanks. They saw that I held it for them.

Bad day or not, it's rude.

JohnMarston

Elba101 wrote: »

Ah I don't think you understand what I'm saying... I don't do nice things because I want recognition, I do it to be nice. But i did hold a door open for someone and they just walked right through without saying thanks. They saw that I held it for them.

Bad day or not, it's rude.

Yes, yes it is rude. Just shrug it off, its not worth getting upset over

Dudess

Bet there have always been people complaining about poor manners or a lack thereof. Manners haven't disappeared, there are just some unmannerly arseholes - always have been.

Fremen

EverEvolving wrote: »

Utter scutter OP, you just gotta stop hanging with the riff raff.

Even riff-raff have some approximation of manners. Have you not heard them on Moore street?

"Dar'll be a foy-var, ple-aus an' tank yew".

JOSman

I totally agree with OP. It's sad to say that this is a reflection of Irish society today. So much to being a friendly nation?

How much does it cost to smile and nod a thanks?

Alter-Ego

Elba101 wrote: »

I don't know about this... I can remember getting more pleases and thank yous when I was younger. Even when i was 21/22 (which wasn't that long ago) I can remember people being more polite.

Maybe you're looking a bit rough these days an that's why people aren't so nice. Most sane people don't waste their time being nice to uggo's.

Not saying you're uggo. Just sayin' is all. :pac:

stovelid

hacked wrote: »

Yeah, it annoys the hell out of me too. I live in Dublin, so sometime I wonder if it's just living in the capital. Cities are always ruder!

It's the large concentration of culchies you get there.

Mary28

I used to think it was a Dublin thing and it is to some extent. I think the busier the place the ruder people seem to get. I HATE town at Christmas for example, you'd get run over by these bi^ches out shopping. I find women worse for it tbh. Seem to think they have a right to walk down the street without any regard for the other couple of hundred people on it and never have to get out of anyone elses way. Same for opening doors for people, women can be a lot worse for not saying thank you as they just expect it.

I'm abroad at the moment though and I have to say the person to person rudeness in this country is unreal. It made me appreciate home and now much more personable people can be.

Working class or posh had little to do with it, it's the manners your parents taught you and if you decide to use them. I've seen what look like total scum give my 75 yr old mum a seat on Dublin bus or help me through a door with my buggy etc. A posher person mightn't bother their arse.

It's also about common courtsey. Holding a door open for someone, making eye contact with them, a nod or smile or the word thanks. It's what makes the world go around. People are so closed and nuclear now they think they don't need anyone else to get by but we do, it's when you're stuck and a stranger helps you for no other reason than to be nice that this hits home.

old hippy

Elba101 wrote: »

They are! London being the worst from my experience!

It certainly can be. The most polite people I know here, people who would pick up your card/money if you dropped it etc, are non-Londoners.

Doyler92

Anytime I'm driving and someone stops on the other side of the road to let me overtake a parked car, they always get a wave.

I hate when it's the other way around and they don't wave for some reason.

Kojak

JOSman wrote: »

How much does it cost to smile and nod a thanks?

About two clicks of your mouse.

tan11ie

Elba101 wrote: »

They are! London being the worst from my experience!

New York I'd say - If you were dead on the street they would step over you...

......They could at lest say excuse me..

Kasabian

Excuse me, I have wandered into the wrong thread. I am sorry.

iamwhoiam

just wondered how old is "old " OP ? I am no spring chicken and I make sure I say Thank you to everyone .If someone holds a door for me I give them a big smile and a Thank you and am mostly surprised with a lovely smile back .
I thank helpful people on the phone and in shops and thank them for thier time and help . I usually get a lovely response too .
Manners begets manners and a smile will often get another .

OH and PS I am Dub born and bred .

Elba101

iamwhoiam wrote: »

just wondered how old is "old " OP ? I am no spring chicken and I make sure I say Thank you to everyone .If someone holds a door for me I give them a big smile and a Thank you and am mostly surprised with a lovely smile back .
I thank helpful people on the phone and in shops and thank them for thier time and help . I usually get a lovely response too .
Manners begets manners and a smile will often get another .

Ah I'm only 25. I do get a lot of 'pleases' and 'thank yous', but I also get the opposite. Just can't stand people who are rude for no reason?!

iamwhoiam

Elba101 wrote: »

Ah I'm only 25. I do get a lot of 'pleases' and 'thank yous', but I also get the opposite. Just can't stand people who are rude for no reason?!

Me neither , but have learned how to disarm them by being very nice back and smiling and it really takes the wind out of their sails .!

Ally Dick

The lack of toilet manners are the worst in Ireland.

The Irish rules of the toilet :
1) you must rub your snots off the wall at the urinal
2) you must never wash your hands after a No.1 if not a No.2
3) you must flush the toilet and open the door and walk out at the same time.
you must NEVER check the bowl for skidmarks or floaters

Chuck Stone

Old people as a race just have a different culture...

So stop being RACIST against the old-folk race.

!MAVERICK!

Theres hardly any manners in Irish retailers anymore either. Compared to the states you are treated like ****e! In New York everyone addresses you as sir/madam followed by great product knowledge and assistance when you need it.

In Dublin service is awful in most places apart from a few pleasant foreigners that actually enjoy their job.

Why cant they be though basic customer service here?

Lady Chatterton

Ally Dick wrote: »

The lack of toilet manners are the worst in Ireland.

The Irish rules of the toilet :
1) you must rub your snots off the wall at the urinal
2) you must never wash your hands after a No.1 if not a No.2
3) you must flush the toilet and open the door and walk out at the same time.
you must NEVER check the bowl for skidmarks or floaters

Sweet jaysus :eek: :eek: :eek:

Are you working in a pre-school?

Lady Chatterton

I'm a regular visitor to France and I know that the Parisians get a lot of stick for being rude but I can honestly say I have never ever experienced it in all the times I have been there. I also think they are probably the best I've ever come across to give directions etc.

Chuck Stone

MrsD007 wrote: »

Parisians get a lot of stick for being rude but I can honestly say I have never ever experienced it in all the times I have been there. I also think they are probably the best I've ever come across to give directions etc.

Directions out of France? :pac:

Lady Chatterton

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Directions out of France? :pac:

Directions given by someone with a sexy french accent = heaven

Chris P. Bacon

Ally Dick wrote: »

The lack of toilet manners are the worst in Ireland.

The Irish rules of the toilet :
1) you must rub your snots off the wall at the urinal
2) you must never wash your hands after a No.1 if not a No.2
3) you must flush the toilet and open the door and walk out at the same time.
you must NEVER check the bowl for skidmarks or floaters

Sounds like most of the toilets in places i have worked.

Ally Dick

MrsD007 wrote: »

Sweet jaysus :eek: :eek: :eek:

Are you working in a pre-school?

Unfortunately everyone in my job is over 30. I can't understand how some people are so dirty

Lady Chatterton

Ally Dick wrote: »

Unfortunately everyone in my job is over 30. I can't understand how some people are so dirty

I wouldn't last long in your place. I'm a bit of a hygiene freak. (Antibacterial wipes and spray in my office and I have a severe phobia about touching toilet door handles etc. ) The guys at work think it is hiliarious.

languagenerd

I hate when shop staff don't even bother looking at you when they serve you and just continue their conversation with each other. Was in Easons yesterday and the three women on the counter were having a bitch about someone they know, all three of them serving customers without so much as a "hello", looking annoyed at being interrupted.

I've worked in various retail jobs - I get it, it can be horribly boring sometimes - but you're getting paid to serve customers, so don't treat them like they're a nuisance and getting in the way of your gossip session!!

On the other hand, I've been the person on the other side of the desk too and some customers can also be insanely rude, treating you like you're inferior to them or like it's your fault that the item they want isn't reduced....

I fear for society. :P

veryangryman

Mmhmmm the height of ignorance. Examples i see every day..

What really annoys me is people who dont return a hello when passing but will still ask "How are you" when wanting something.

Smileys are the worst -Make a bitchy comment and stick in a and your fine. That to me is a replacement for the 2 fingered salute

Ally Dick

My pet hate is when you politely let someone out of a side road while driving, and they never acknowledge you in any way. Then they snail in front of you, as the ultimate f@ck off

Mars Bar

I don't like bad manners either. My Mam has always told me that I if I never get a qualification in my life, good manners will always get me somewhere.

Naikon

mars bar wrote: »

I don't like bad manners either. My Mam has always told me that I if I never get a qualification in my life, good manners will always get me somewhere.

Your Mam was having you on.

annacanna

when someones goes out of their way to help someone then it only right to say thanks
i was outside tesco yesterday, holding my daughter while trying to get a trolley in the rain, all the stupid things were stuck and i was just pulling at them. a young couple came over and started trying to get a trolley freed for me, the young girl even got the finger caught and i couldnt thank them enough.
ive had people offer to help me lift a buggy upstairs in buildings when they have seen me struggle when the lifts arnt working

there is alot of really kind people out there

Kojak

Ally Dick wrote: »

The lack of toilet manners are the worst in Ireland.

The Irish rules of the toilet :
1) you must rub your snots off the wall at the urinal
2) you must never wash your hands after a No.1 if not a No.2
3) you must flush the toilet and open the door and walk out at the same time.
you must NEVER check the bowl for skidmarks or floaters

You hit the nail on the head there, boy.