Buying in Blanchardstown

bumblegirl

I intend to buy in 6 months or so and am considering Blanchardstown. I will be intending on renting out the spare room(s). Does anyone know if its easy/difficult to rent out rooms in this area and if there is an ideal part of Blanch to buy in so i wouldn't have much of an issue filling the room(s)
Thanks

smelltheglove

It is a HUGE area and quite diverse. How much you are looking to spend will obviously count. The Clonsilla(4) end being ideal, closer to the train the better. Coolmine sort of area (obviously more expensive) along with Carpenterstown(2) and Laurel Lodge(1) also good areas to look at if budget stretches that far.

Going lower down in prices you could consider Clonee(3), areas around the Paddocks rather than the likes of Ongar I would imagine also Hartstown(5) and if budget is slightly lower then Huntstown(6).

This is coming from someone from the area rather than having rented there. I have numbered the areas according to how expensive prices were whenever I was buying with 1 being the highest.

Cathmandooo

I can't see much of a market for a rent a room. It's not very appealing to do a house share with an owner occupier (tenant has little rights) and there's possibly a large supply of apartments available to rent. A quick look on daft house shares in Blanchardstown throws 40 properties available, that's not even getting into looking at Clonsilla, Carpenterstown, Laurel Lodge, etc.

As for buying, it is a very large area so you'd want to research what you want from the area first, plenty of nice spots, and if you're near the train it's very close access to Dublin City Centre, plenty of bus routes too.

Ray Palmer

If you are buying in Blanch I suggest you look at the forecast for the area. It really doesn't read well. Now I don't have the sources to hand but from my understanding

1) The highest school drop out in the country
2) Specialist programs to deal with troubled teens
3) High foreign national population (this is a social problem waiting to happen)
4) High crime rate already


I know there are nice people living there and nice areas but there are clear signs this is going to be an area with social issues brewing. People being foreign nationals isn't a problem in itself but the 2nd generation will highly likely have social issues going forward. I am basing this on gardai, DSFA and FAS people I know who all think the area is going to keep going down based on the reports they have access to .

g_moriarty

Ray Palmer wrote: »

If you are buying in Blanch I suggest you look at the forecast for the area. It really doesn't read well. Now I don't have the sources to hand but from my understanding

1) The highest school drop out in the country
2) Specialist programs to deal with troubled teens
3) High foreign national population (this is a social problem waiting to happen)
4) High crime rate already

Those are some sweeping "facts" you quote right there. I could just as easily say Lusk has the highest school drop out in the country because my friends in fás, the gardai, etc have access to "reports" :rolleyes: What is the school dropout rate in Blanchardstown then?

What is this high crime rate? What exact crimes does it consist of? What are these in relative terms to the rest of Dublin?

What percentage of people in Blanchardstown are foreign nationals? Do you have any sources to back up this supposed figure?

Never read so much unfounded rubbish in a single post in my life.

chicken fingers

g_moriarty wrote: »

Those are some sweeping "facts" you quote right there. I could just as easily say Lusk has the highest school drop out in the country because my friends in fás, the gardai, etc have access to "reports" :rolleyes: What is the school dropout rate in Blanchardstown then?

What is this high crime rate? What exact crimes does it consist of? What are these in relative terms to the rest of Dublin?

What percentage of people in Blanchardstown are foreign nationals? Do you have any sources to back up this supposed figure?

Never read so much unfounded rubbish in a single post in my life.

Just because he didnt cite sources doesnt mean its not true.

noxqs

I live in Blanch and the foreign nationals mostly work in the business park such as IBM, Ebay, Paypal, Xerox, Symantec, Synopsys etc.. Not exactly the kind of people to go on the dole and become scumbags.

So, quite a sweeping generalization. The scumbags I see around here are Irish.

There are nice areas in Blanch and areas to avoid - as everywhere. I haven't seen or heard much out of the ordinary. Blanchardstown is pretty quiet in my opinion.

The Scientician

Ray Palmer wrote: »

3) High foreign national population (this is a social problem waiting to happen)

Holy xenophobia Batman! I've worked around Blanch for years on and off, and the vast majority of the people in the area are civil. The only (minor) grief I ever got off anyone was from "natives".

g_moriarty

chicken fingers wrote: »

Just because he didnt cite sources doesnt mean its not true.

Well in order to actually cite sources, you need facts and figures which your sources would verify. But he didn't even quote figures, just vague, random and slightly racist comments.

ricman

You should be ok, if you buy on a private estate ,not too far from an industrial estate ,or a college.My friend in blanch,has 2 tenants ,non nationals who work for a tech company.Go for 2 single people, ie not good idea to rent to a couple, if you are living there.
Any area that has thousands of young people,will have x percent who drop out,or have problems,thats obvious.

Elle Collins

Mulduddart.... Ladyswell... Yeah Blanch is a lovely area :rolleyes:

smelltheglove

Any area is what you make of it, if you go in assuming everyone is a roughian and you are above them all you will get a lot more stick than someone who accepts it for what it is (aimed at the negative comments not the op).

I had a long winded reply as I am so irritated by the 2 negative posts but decided to delete it. Look you have already made up your mind that you want to buy in the area so most likely you know what to take with a pinch of salt... sarcasim and unfounded accusations arent going to help you.

Elle Collins

smelltheglove wrote: »

Any area is what you make of it

This comment could only come from someone with no experience of living in a true kip.

Zamboni

We've been down this road with a Finglas thread recently.
Blanch is not the worst place in the world but if you have other options I'd look into them first.

I love the way you all play the xenophobe card against Ray Palmer.
There is a complete lack of integration initiated by the govt.
To assume there will be a passive integration of all the various cultures would be naieve.
This is not a comment on the foreign nationals themselves but rather a comment on the lack of policies to assist them and the native populations.

Ray Palmer

g_moriarty wrote: »

Never read so much unfounded rubbish in a single post in my life.

It isn't unfounded I just didn't cite reports. The areas has trouble brewing don't believe me but do some research yourself which I would do if I was buying there. Your belief is actually unfounded you just think because I haven't cited a report I don't know what I am talking about.

The Scientician wrote: »

Holy xenophobia Batman! I've worked around Blanch for years on and off, and the vast majority of the people in the area are civil. The only (minor) grief I ever got off anyone was from "natives".

If you read what I said it is not race that I am warning about it is social development within the area and it's future. Effectively the poor integration practices in this country are going to cause problems. Blanch will have more trouble than others due to the high unemployment, high drop out rate and high foreign national population. I don't fear any group of people just read enough about social development to know the most likely outcome due to a lack of intercultural programs in this country.
What do you think is going to happen when you have poor ill educated Irish teenagers meets both poor and well to do foreign national teenagers in years to come. I don't think they are going to get on and it is going to happen in Blanch in a big way and the area already has a fair amount of social issues.

smelltheglove

Elle Collins wrote: »

This comment could only come from someone with no experience of living in a true kip.

Oh you know me sooooo well:rolleyes:

I grew up in a very very nice area true but the first house I bought was in a council estate at the back of Navan, an area that some people would call a kip but I loved it, I went on to move to a couple of different areas but have very very recently settled into a private house in another council estate in Dublin, to be honest, I actually LOVE it! Best move I could have made!

RasTa

Ray Palmer wrote: »

It isn't unfounded I just didn't cite reports. The areas has trouble brewing don't believe me but do some research yourself which I would do if I was buying there. Your belief is actually unfounded you just think because I haven't cited a report I don't know what I am talking about.

If you read what I said it is not race that I am warning about it is social development within the area and it's future. Effectively the poor integration practices in this country are going to cause problems. Blanch will have more trouble than others due to the high unemployment, high drop out rate and high foreign national population. I don't fear any group of people just read enough about social development to know the most likely outcome due to a lack of intercultural programs in this country.
What do you think is going to happen when you have poor ill educated Irish teenagers meets both poor and well to do foreign national teenagers in years to come. I don't think they are going to get on and it is going to happen in Blanch in a big way and the area already has a fair amount of social issues.

In Corduff, Sheepmore or Fortlawn maybe but you are talking rubbish. Plenty of work around here, seems to be Irish people who don't want it.

Ray Palmer

RasTa wrote: »

In Corduff, Sheepmore or Fortlawn maybe but you are talking rubbish. Plenty of work around here, seems to be Irish people who don't want it.

Which would actually play in to what I am saying maybe you don't understand what I am saying. Do you think those people not working aren't having kids?
Blach is not a high end area and will likely get worse IMHO. I have firends working there with the social issues and they see it getting worse. Most people working in these services want out of the area, you don't have to believe that but what are you basing your views on. I have always stated everthing as my opinion but given reasons. You can chose on what ever basis you want doesn't mean my points aren't valid.

Godge

I live in Blanchardstown. It is so large that it does have the problems that Ray Palmer mentions and probably to an extent greater than some other areas. But that is a long way from suggesting that there is a huge problem. Limerick City probably has the same amount of population and land as Dublin 15 and it has Moyross, Southill and a regeneration project.

So yes, if you want to buy in Blanchardstown, it is a good place to line but look carefully. Near the village is fine, anything with a Castleknock address is fine, but watch out for places that claim to be Blanchardstown or Clonsilla but are nowhere near. You also get what you pay for.

There are places like Tyrellstown (and to a lesser extent Ongar), full of negative equity and absent landlords as well as a lack of public transport. Other areas such as Mulhuddart, Sheepmoor, Corduff have a very bad reputation but not all parts are the same.

At the end of the day you get what you pay for. A €1,000,000 detatched house in Castleknock will be different to a €120,000 three-bed semi in Hartstown.

For me, somewhere in walking distance of the train, of the shopping centre, of schools and other shops is probably the best bet. Roselawn, Riverwood, Coolmine, Clonsilla Road, Delwood, Springlawn all good choices.

jackiebaron

Isn't Blanchardstown just a shopping centre and skangers and ajh'ers walking around in their damn pyjamas?

jackiebaron

Buy this instead:

http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/geraldstown-woods-santry-dublin-9/1456695

99k for a 2-bed pad in Santry (my old neighbourhood)...bargain!

January

jackiebaron wrote: »

Isn't Blanchardstown just a shopping centre and skangers and ajh'ers walking around in their damn pyjamas?

Yes, of course. :rolleyes:

Ray Palmer

jackiebaron wrote: »

Buy this instead:

http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/geraldstown-woods-santry-dublin-9/1456695

99k for a 2-bed pad in Santry (my old neighbourhood)...bargain!

A lot of people in those apartments are RA tenants originally from Ballymun. Nice set-up for the apartments and nice green areas but I would be a little cautious. Good location and well serviced for shops and transport is pretty regular but you will share the bus going to Ballymun on some routes.

jackiebaron

Ray Palmer wrote: »

A lot of people in those apartments are RA tenants originally from Ballymun. Nice set-up for the apartments and nice green areas but I would be a little cautious. Good location and well serviced for shops and transport is pretty regular but you will share the bus going to Ballymun on some routes.

So you're surrounded by Ballymun skangers as opposed to Blanch skangers :pac:

Victor

jackiebaron wrote: »

Isn't Blanchardstown just a shopping centre and skangers and ajh'ers walking around in their damn pyjamas?

No it isn't. Can you keep it constructive please?

January

Ray Palmer wrote: »

A lot of people in those apartments are RA tenants originally from Ballymun. Nice set-up for the apartments and nice green areas but I would be a little cautious. Good location and well serviced for shops and transport is pretty regular but you will share the bus going to Ballymun on some routes.

When I lived in Santry Cross years ago it was mostly professionals living there, nice and quiet, except you could see the old Balcurris flats from my window and more than once I had the ring the fire services to get them to extinguish the cars that they set on fire below my window, done us good for a heat source sitting out on the balcony some nights though!

amtc

Some of the opinions on this thread really annoyed me.

I grew up in Roselawn, and went to Coolmine, got good degree and presently have good job earning almost 100k. Never had any issues.

I first bought a house in Ongar which I hated, mainly because of the commute into town, so sold and bought in Waterville. Love it. Been here seven years now. The whole block is populated by girls in our thirties. My boyf accidentally left the door open one day, and no crime. My dad nearly had a fit when he heard I was buying near Corduff but I love it. Bus into town at 8.10 takes max 25 mins (parents in Roselawn can take an hour or more). Easy access to the park, or anywhere - although I do prefer Liffey Valley rather than the Blanchardstown Centre. You do get some snobbery - people say I don't have a Blanchardstown accent but I have lived here all my life.

I have noticed a larger amount of properties empty, but not as bad say as the Phoenix Park apartments which look like a ghost town.

athtrasna

I too live in Waterville and in 7 years here the only trouble we've encountered was my car was broken into 3 years ago..but that could happen anywhere.

Property rents fairly easy in Waterville, it's a handy location for the hospital, the shopping centre, a whole load of Industrial Estates and the NAC. Decent bus route now, train is about 20 mins walk through the village. There are good deals to be had on property in Waterville right now. My tip would be to do a lot of research on the various clusters, some are more pleasant to live in than others. Also check out the management companies and agents. We have just replaced our agents.

amtc

Hi Athtrasna

So you mind me asked who you use now?

I'm in Garnish Square and use SPM who I actually find ok

A

athtrasna

We just left them...will PM with more details

Zamboni

+1 on Waterville.

Hemmed in by the hospital, the aquatic centre and Snugborough Rd it's effectively completely separate from the rest of Blanch.
Good spot for single guys too. The majority of the population appears to be young nurses.

amtc

and bizarrely enough the only part of Blanchardstown that side of the M50 which is part of the Castleknowck Electoral District

athtrasna

amtc wrote: »

and bizarrely enough the only part of Blanchardstown that side of the M50 which is part of the Castleknowck Electoral District

Yip - they consider the Snugborough Road to be the boundary between Castleknock and Mulhuddart LEAs (local electoral areas). Having said that we've found the Mulhuddart councillors were equally helpful when we raised issues with them in the past...like when we finally got the yellow box at the Snugborough Road entrance.

amtc

Leo claimed that one in a chat with me!

January

amtc wrote: »

Leo claimed that one in a chat with me!

I'd say Leo would claim anything good done in the area was his doing given the chance!

thomasj

Ray Palmer wrote: »

1) The highest school drop out in the country

.

[Url] http://www.examiner.ie/ireland/limerick-city-faces-crisis-in-school-retention-154425.html [/Url]

And you can see its very recent!

athtrasna

amtc wrote: »

Leo claimed that one in a chat with me!

January wrote: »

I'd say Leo would claim anything good done in the area was his doing given the chance!

I did say equally. And to give Leo his due...he was telling the truth

COMHAIRLE CONTAE FHINE GALL

FINGAL COUNTY COUNCIL

Minutes of Meeting of Castleknock/Mulhuddart Area Committee

(Services A) held on Thursday, 26th October, 2006

CMA/373/06

SNUGBOROUGH ROAD ENTRANCE TO WATERVILLE – YELLOW BOX JUNCTION MARKINGS

In the name of Councillor L. Varadkar, it was proposed by Councillor B. Clifford, seconded by Councillor M. Richardson:

“That the Manager, with regard to the Snugboro Road junction with the access road for Annagh Court and Dursey, Waterville, provide:

(a) a yellow box can be provided and to make a statement on the matter or

(b) keep clear or other appropriate signage be introduced as residents are unable to turn into the estate from the Snugboro Road northbound due to southbound traffic blocking the junction.”

The following report by the Manager was READ and NOTED.

A yellow box junction marking will be provided on the Southbound carriageway of the Snugborough Road at the Waterville junction under the QBC scheme.

ilikeyourma

thomasj wrote: »

[Url] http://www.examiner.ie/ireland/limerick-city-faces-crisis-in-school-retention-154425.html [/Url]

And you can see its very recent!

I think he means Primary school.

More people go on to second level in Limerick than in Blanch, so there are less people to drop out.
It's a very small pool in Blanch.

Zamboni

ilikeyourma wrote: »

It's a very small pool in Blanch.

:pac: