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Building materials for a shed

  • 24-05-2011 7:26am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭


    Where is the best place to buy materials for a shed project?

    A builders providers or I have heard it mentioned a quarry?
    Do quarrys sell direct and deliver? is there a difference? I mean in price or quality? ie sand would it be likely to be stored ok/damp?

    And also roofing materials, I'm thinking of tiles but maybe tile effect sheeting, where would be a good place to get either of these? again would it be a builders providers or a specialist place?

    I'm in Dublin, so I'd be planning ordering from somewhere near/nearish so a delivery charge isn't added (might this even be waived for an order or can I ask for a discount?, I always ask for a discount when I'm getting electrical/motor parts so I assume I can ask at a builders providers or might they not be interested in the quantities I suggest below?)

    I did a rough calculation and the shed is going to be about 2.8m x 6. I calculated roughly (very) about 520 cavities and 120 blocks (for laying on their sides on top of the for laying on the foundations. I deducted door openings/windows nor added lintels and window cills.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26 the spout


    hello merch cant help you ,will you post photos of your shed cons.best of luck on shed bill:)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Merch wrote: »
    Where is the best place to buy materials for a shed project?

    A builders providers or I have heard it mentioned a quarry?
    Do quarrys sell direct and deliver? is there a difference? I mean in price or quality? ie sand would it be likely to be stored ok/damp?

    And also roofing materials, I'm thinking of tiles but maybe tile effect sheeting, where would be a good place to get either of these? again would it be a builders providers or a specialist place?

    I'm in Dublin, so I'd be planning ordering from somewhere near/nearish so a delivery charge isn't added (might this even be waived for an order or can I ask for a discount?, I always ask for a discount when I'm getting electrical/motor parts so I assume I can ask at a builders providers or might they not be interested in the quantities I suggest below?)

    I did a rough calculation and the shed is going to be about 2.8m x 6. I calculated roughly (very) about 520 cavities and 120 blocks (for laying on their sides on top of the for laying on the foundations. I deducted door openings/windows nor added lintels and window cills.


    Some builders providers are doing 4 inch solids for around 50 cents a block,but you might get them cheaper elsewhere.


    You will do well to get free delievery from the builders providers,as they have to allow for a truck being loaded and the diesel costs nowadays.Usualy a 20-30 euro delievery charge (get as much as you can get delievered in 1 go).


    I have a good few new/unused 4 inch solid blocks and also 9 inch cavity blocks left over from my recent build.

    24 x 9 inch cavity blocks and around 15-20 x 4 inch solid blocks.

    Im in Dublin too,near the Airport,if its of any use to you.

    You are more than wellcome to them,if you want.:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Merch


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Some builders providers are doing 4 inch solids for around 50 cents a block,but you might get them cheaper elsewhere.


    I have a good few new/unused 4 inch solid blocks and also 9 inch cavity blocks left over from my recent build.

    24 x 9 inch cavity blocks and around 15-20 x 4 inch solid blocks.

    Im in Dublin too,near the Airport,if its of any use to you.

    You are more than wellcome to them,if you want.:)

    I will take you up on that offer if i can get a towbar sorted soon, which I am in the process of organising, but if you need to get rid of them sooner thats no problem. How much were cavities?
    I dont mind paying for delivery, just wondering if the builders providers were approachable to getting a discount off them someway< I guess with delivery prices and them probably getting someone in to do it thats not part of their organisation means no discount on delivery, but maybe on the blocks/other materials.
    Any opinions/ideas/experience on cost of tiles or tile-like roofing material?
    Builders providers be the place to get that too?

    Regards


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Merch wrote: »
    I will take you up on that offer if i can get a towbar sorted soon, which I am in the process of organising, but if you need to get rid of them sooner thats no problem. How much were cavities?
    I dont mind paying for delivery, just wondering if the builders providers were approachable to getting a discount off them someway< I guess with delivery prices and them probably getting someone in to do it thats not part of their organisation means no discount on delivery, but maybe on the blocks/other materials.
    Any opinions/ideas/experience on cost of tiles or tile-like roofing material?
    Builders providers be the place to get that too?

    Regards

    I think they worked out at 75-80 cents a cavity block,if I can remember correctly.I got more 4 inch solids than cavities though.


    Gusclad,Skyclad or theres a place in Dundalk that will make you any style of cladding you like.
    I got my tile effect cladding from Skyclad.Well,my builder actusaly got it for me,off them.

    Have a look on Donedeal for cladding,in the Building section.:)

    Use non drip cladding.

    I got a good discount off a well known builders providers just up the road from the Walkinstown Roundabout.4 inch solids were 50 cents each,but I had ALOT of different materials delievered on 1 large flat bed truck,so it was only 30 euro delievery for everything.

    4 inch solid blocks,sand,804 hardcore,paving stones etc etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 419 ✭✭eiei0


    I am building a 1000sqFT shed at the moment.

    The construction industry is on its knee's, if you are a cash buyer you should be able to get good deals.

    From when I built my house 3 years ago prices have dropped.

    I am getting 4" solids for about 44c a block and 9" for 80c

    25n20 for 60 a cube.

    I collected 2 ton of sand for €10 and a lorry load of 804 was 180.

    I have delt with the same builders providers since day one and have dropped over 50k in there so I have never paid for delivery and would loose the rag if the tried to charge me for it.

    If you are not getting a full load of blocks the might try to charge you delivery so get as many as you can at once.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    eiei0 wrote: »
    I am building a 1000sqFT shed at the moment.

    The construction industry is on its knee's, if you are a cash buyer you should be able to get good deals.

    From when I built my house 3 years ago prices have dropped.

    I am getting 4" solids for about 44c a block and 9" for 80c

    25n20 for 60 a cube.

    I collected 2 ton of sand for €10 and a lorry load of 804 was 180.

    I have delt with the same builders providers since day one and have dropped over 50k in there so I have never paid for delivery and would loose the rag if the tried to charge me for it.

    If you are not getting a full load of blocks the might try to charge you delivery so get as many as you can at once.


    You are right there.

    The entire construction and building materials sector has just crashed and imploded,in such a small time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Merch


    eiei0 wrote: »
    I am building a 1000sqFT shed at the moment.

    The construction industry is on its knee's, if you are a cash buyer you should be able to get good deals.

    From when I built my house 3 years ago prices have dropped.

    I am getting 4" solids for about 44c a block and 9" for 80c

    25n20 for 60 a cube.

    I collected 2 ton of sand for €10 and a lorry load of 804 was 180.

    I have delt with the same builders providers since day one and have dropped over 50k in there so I have never paid for delivery and would loose the rag if the tried to charge me for it.

    If you are not getting a full load of blocks the might try to charge you delivery so get as many as you can at once.

    Is 25n20 the strength of cement? suitable for foundations?, wasn't sure what to ask for heard of 35n and 75n??
    I have estimated about 550 cavitys and maybe 200 solids, plus some 3inch blocks, and some half cavity blocks "footballs" as I have heard them called, also 2 lintels and a cill.
    I havent worked out how much sand, but I was recommended to get it by the tonne, not sure how many tonnes i will need either but told to get them in the ratio of 5:1 quantity compared to cement (which i presume is bagged)
    I will be buying the wood and tiles or tile effect plastic material depending on cost and doing the roof myself, but realistically getting a person in to lay the blocks, I will do the mixing and other work for him.
    Also, what is 804?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭harry21


    Merch wrote: »
    Is 25n20 the strength of cement?

    Yes
    Merch wrote: »
    suitable for foundations?

    Fine
    Merch wrote: »
    Also, what is 804

    Hardcore for under floor


    Are you getting readymix for the foundations or mixing yourself?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Merch


    harry21 wrote: »
    Yes



    Fine



    Hardcore for under floor


    Are you getting readymix for the foundations or mixing yourself?


    I'm going to get ready mix, I think that doing it myself will be too much bother, the mix might not be right 100% and consistent, I was recommended (here) before to get ready mix more or less for those reasons.
    re 804 cheers, least I know what its called, I assume thats to do with the size/grade but will look it up, just going to ask for hardcore having calculated my volume, I presume they bring it in loads by weight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭harry21


    Ya, in general dry materials are in weight (tonnes) but the readymix is in volume (m3).

    Dont forget the steel (or mesh) for the foundations.

    Oh... and to answer your original question I would go to the quarry for the materials normally. But you can't buy steel, pipe and other bits so it might be better off going to builders providers when you include delivery.


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