B777 emergency landing at Shannon 24.5.2011

280special

Have been watching & listening online to BA239 which has made an "emergency " landing at Shannon while on route from Heathrow to Boston.

Anyone know what's the cause? Did hear them say they wanted everyone off the aircraft so presume its not a simple problem.

MicK10rt

I was also listening. Heard them mention smoke in the cockpit or cabin

shinobi

280special wrote: »

Have been watching & listening online to BA239 which has made an "emergency " landing at Shannon while on route from Heathrow to Boston.

Anyone know what's the cause? Did hear them say they wanted everyone off the aircraft so presume its not a simple problem.

Smoke in the cabin was reported by the captain. The piculiar thing is that he requested an air bridge & was given a slot. Surely if there's suspected smoke in the cabin the passengers should be evacuated ASAP?

CrackisWhack

where do you listen to this stuff online?

MicK10rt

CrackisWhack wrote: »

where do you listen to this stuff online?

http://www.liveatc.net/

Bigus

shinobi wrote: »

Smoke in the cabin was reported by the captain. The piculiar thing is that he requested an air bridge & was given a slot. Surely if there's suspected smoke in the cabin the passengers should be evacuated ASAP?

Nah , pilot saw how good a time Obama had here, and felt like a stopover with a decent pint

extraice

Inspection both outside and inside off the plane to be carried out

Emergency/Guard 121.500 for snn but noit on line scanner here and can hear whats happen
.liveatc.net

Stinicker

Bigus wrote: »

Nah , pilot saw how good a time Obama had here, and felt like a stopover with a decent pint

That could be a long stop over with the Ash cloud barrelling down upon us in a couple of hours.

xflyer

Smoke in the cabin/flight deck is serious but not that serious. Relatively common in fact. But chances are not taken. I remember, when I worked in OPs for an airline getting a call that almost stopped my heart. ATC rang, 'Your flight such and such is returning, smoke in the flight deck. What are your intentions?' Panic stations, when it taxyed in, I was third person onto the flight deck after a couple of fireman, not least because I had pulled all sorts to strings to get an Air Traffic Controller into one of the jump seats. I had visions of been blamed for the tragic death of the unfortunate controller. Curiously I wasn't too worried about the flight crew.

A320

The source of smoke sometimes can be quickly found by switching off utility busses/ife etc,its the usual cause. A relief 777 landing in snn at about 2pm and the grounded aircraft returned to the uk at about 4pm

Manic Moran

Just what current service airliners are the lads at shannon certified to fix anyway?

NTM

tippilot

As A320 noted above, the switching off of utility/ife busses can remove power from common causes of on board smoke, such as the ovens. There are checklists for smoke and fumes removal.

While we may have been accustomed to aircraft diversions due to smoke in the cabin or flight deck, it is still about as serious a situation as you can get. Especially if the source of smoke cannot be identified.

The average time from discovery of an onboard fire to the situation becoming non-recoverable is 15-18 minutes. Very very quick. That is why the very first thing you do in a scenario like this, is point the aircraft towards an airport. Swissair Flight 111 in 1998 is a prime example. The timeline begins with first visible smoke at 22.14, and ends with the aircraft impacting the water at 22.31. There are many more examples.

We may be used to favourable outcomes, but there are reasons no chances are taken.

A320

Manic Moran wrote: »

Just what current service airliners are the lads at shannon certified to fix anyway?

NTM

Opening a can of worms there,firstly the line lads are from various companies who probably individually hold a range of different type approvals,if a tech stop like what happened there was probably a call out by ba to perform an inspection and troubleshooting,the engineers called out wont be able to certify any work done as the dont hold BA company approval,however a one off certification may be given to an engineer,but theres a lot of messy paperwork and red tape involved here,i would think BA engineers came in yest with the relief a/c or even earlier.

Bearcat

xflyer wrote: »

Smoke in the cabin/flight deck is serious but not that serious..

quote of the century..............sit yourself at 30west and the "but not that serious" line is laughable.

Any smoke in a cabin or cockpit is very serious irrespective of its nature. Isolating the source is the no.1 priority . You may like to recap the swissair MD11 tragedy off Nova Scotia and this all stemmed from dodgy wiring in the pax entertainment system, I recall.