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Underwater Archeology

  • 23-05-2011 12:38pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,594 ✭✭✭


    Hi, Was just looking at Google Maps and began to wonder how much usable land there was around Ireland during the last Ice Age?

    Having been a follower of Graham Hancock for a while now it makes me think that perhaps there is much more to be found off the coasts of this little country, if ancient artifacts are being dragged up off southern England what is being brought up here and how can we find out if it is regulated and charted.

    If anybody has any thoughts on this post em up.

    Cheers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    You would have to first identify the exact coastline of the meso/neo periods to identify possible locations for coastal communities in local areas then start diving. :p


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    Isn't there something off the coast near Bray?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,594 ✭✭✭cfuserkildare


    I was thinking more like where sea level would have been during the last 2 periods of glaciation when the sea level would be 350 to 400 feet lower than it is today and off the west coast looks ideal to me.
    Will add co-ordinates later.
    Any thoughts on this? Post em up.

    Cheers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    Hy-Brasil what about there


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    brazilmercator_medium.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,594 ✭✭✭cfuserkildare


    Slowburner ? cant see pic.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    Now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,594 ✭✭✭cfuserkildare


    Yeah that is cool, do you have a date on that map? as it fits in with what I was looking at on Google Maps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    Some say that was Atlantis


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    Yeah that is cool, do you have a date on that map? as it fits in with what I was looking at on Google Maps.

    1572.
    Abraham Ortelius


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    Riamfada wrote: »
    You would have to first identify the exact coastline of the meso/neo periods to identify possible locations for coastal communities in local areas then start diving. :p

    Or you could investigate the possibility that artefacts may have been hauled up in fishermen's trawls. Doesn't this happen fairly frequently in the North Sea?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    Wrong side, the continental shelf ends prior to that location. If you're going to have luck anywhere, it'd be in the Irish Sea. There's a lot more possibility of there having been settlements there during the period that it was land.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,594 ✭✭✭cfuserkildare


    Neovore, on Google Maps the lighter the blue the shallower the sea, and the sea to the west of Ireland is much lighter hence shallower than it is in the Irish sea by as much as 150 feet so searching to the west to me seems more logical. Is it possible to get a professional opinion on this as you never know what could be found out there.

    Atlantis just off the kerry coast?

    Keep the posts coming.

    Cheers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,594 ✭✭✭cfuserkildare


    Okay,
    co-ordinates for what I think would be an ideal candidate for submerged land are as follows " 54.069059,-11.700439" (Google Maps)

    Can anyone elaborate on what this is and why this type of feature has never before been considered?

    Post em up.

    Cheers.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    I'm not sure what you are seeing there. It just looks like an underwater mountain to me - am I missing something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    Link please


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,594 ✭✭✭cfuserkildare


    Okay,
    1st Slowburner, the feature indicated is not a single item there are multiple features kinda similar to the Ortelius map just oriented differently.

    2nd Hootanany, link to what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 598 ✭✭✭Whippersnapper


    The Petrified Forest

    Submerged on Bray's North Beach lies the remains of a forest over 6,000 years old, it can only be seen at very low tides

    http://braytowncouncil.ie/pages/bray-tourism-brochure/places-and-people-2.php

    Also:

    http://www.jstor.org/pss/25521009


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    Okay,
    1st Slowburner, the feature indicated is not a single item there are multiple features kinda similar to the Ortelius map just oriented differently.

    2nd Hootanany, link to what?

    To Google maps please


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,594 ✭✭✭cfuserkildare


    Hootanany,
    Open Google home page, Click Maps button at top of page then enter the following co-ordinates <54.069059,-11.700439>.
    Then see if they look like anything else.

    Let us know.

    Cheers.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    Hootanany wrote: »
    To Google maps please

    http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=54.069059,-11.700439&z=16&t=h&hl=en

    Here yah go :)
    You might need to zoom out a bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭chrissor


    I recently did a mock research project for a module at university which went down quite well on the potential for underwater archaeology in the Irish Sea.

    The University of Ulster and the Joint Irish Bathymetric Survey have done quite a lot of surveying on the Northern coast and this kind of landscape mapping would be useful elsewhere.

    One of the links below may not actually be fully accessible to everyone but the rest should be.

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1095-9270.2010.00272.x/full

    http://www.jstor.org/stable/20559137

    http://rses.anu.edu.au/geodynamics/AnnRep/95/AR-Geod95.html

    http://www.jstor.org.eproxy.ucd.ie/stable/20567977


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,594 ✭✭✭cfuserkildare


    Okay,

    I need more source material as that was good but not so easy getting to grips with.
    Can we get more info as I was thinking a little deeper and a little further away ie 50-100 miles off shore.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    chrissor wrote: »
    I recently did a mock research project for a module at university which went down quite well on the potential for underwater archaeology in the Irish Sea.

    The University of Ulster and the Joint Irish Bathymetric Survey have done quite a lot of surveying on the Northern coast and this kind of landscape mapping would be useful elsewhere.

    One of the links below may not actually be fully accessible to everyone but the rest should be.

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1095-9270.2010.00272.x/full

    http://www.jstor.org/stable/20559137

    http://rses.anu.edu.au/geodynamics/AnnRep/95/AR-Geod95.html

    http://www.jstor.org.eproxy.ucd.ie/stable/20567977

    No luck with the last link for me anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,594 ✭✭✭cfuserkildare


    Yeah, last 1 is a UCD members only link.

    Does anybody else have any more info or ideas in relation to this as it could be a huge subject in the near future, like the new finds off the west coast of India. Will post a link later.

    Keep em comin'

    Cheers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    Address:‎
    53.412806,-13.276978


    Looks like a submerged Island


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,594 ✭✭✭cfuserkildare


    Yeah kinda does if you look at it properly, especially the sort of bowl type area indicating volcano or similar feature.

    Keep 'em comin folks.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    Yeah, last 1 is a UCD members only link.

    Does anybody else have any more info or ideas in relation to this as it could be a huge subject in the near future, like the new finds off the west coast of India. Will post a link later.

    Keep em comin'

    Cheers.

    Don't forget the link :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,594 ✭✭✭cfuserkildare


    Okay, Finally found the link
    http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_a-civilisation-as-old-as-indus-valley_1547987

    Check it out and leave comments.

    Cheers.


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