Bronze Practice Partners Wanted!

Sykth

Hey All,

I'm a relative sc2 noob after some sparring partners to practise builds and matchups with!

I'm currently ranked 30th in my 1v1 league and I toss between zerg and terran races. If anyone would like to hit me up for a game let me know and I'll fire you through my details.

Cheers!

Decerto

Not to be disrespectful but the very easy ai is a perfect practice partner until high diamond, as the main thing keeping people out of diamond+ is the ability to execute standard build orders relatively perfect untill 50ish food(which isnt hard if u drill it 20/30 times in single player) and then macroing to 200/200 on 2/3base while keeping ur money low.

Also practicing with people for specific mathcups and builds before masters is almost redunant as from my experience no one does solid standard everyday builds, they all do crazy **** or standard timings which hit 2-3mins late, so the best way to practice for bronze/silver/gold/plat ladder is to play ladder

My advice would be to find the most standard builds for each XvX matchup you play and drill them in single player versus ai until you can execute them perfectly to 30/40 food then play ladder to get multitask, strategey and unit composition experience

That is if you are looking to improve otherwise disregard my whole post xD

Sykth

Thanks for your feedback

I've been relatively successful with the 3 rax pressure (stim) timing attack against protoss, I guess i'd best refine other builds versus other races.

Did you use force2strategy tutorials or anything like that when you were learning?

My macro is relatively ok until I shift onto 3 base or a heavy amount of micro is involved - still practice makes perfect!

Orizio

Feanor 980 if you wanna practice sometime, work on macro etc.

Decerto

Sykth wrote: »

Thanks for your feedback

I've been relatively successful with the 3 rax pressure (stim) timing attack against protoss, I guess i'd best refine other builds versus other races.

Did you use force2strategy tutorials or anything like that when you were learning?

My macro is relatively ok until I shift onto 3 base or a heavy amount of micro is involved - still practice makes perfect!

Nope just downloaded a replay pack of decent protoss player from team liquid and found out the most common build he used for each match up and learned each one perfect untill 30-40 food then just laddered with them

Sykth

Thanks Orizio appreciate it mate

Decerto - I'm getting close to locking down 1/1/1 and my 3 rax stim push is decent.

Progress is definitely being had - I only lost to a 6 pool (crap wall off by me :<) & mass cloaked banshees last night out of about 7 matches

VikingErik

I get a bit uncomfortable when people start talking about build orders. I have no doubt that they are necessary to get up to the higher levels to some extent, but I prefer to just freestyle my way up the ladder (without cheesing). I sometimes 4-gate out of safety in PvP but not in the truest sense as I try to keep probe production up.

I'm top of my division bronze player and would be happy to play against you, but I don't know that I can help you with specifics. PvT is my weakest matchup I think. If we were to play I might even be bothered to try and learn some build orders myself.

MilkRain 939

I don't play too much, but I think we might provide each other with enough challenge to improve each others play.

Khazidhea

You must have a build order. You can come up with your own, but probably you dont know much about the game to do that. Just steal some pro-build it's been worked out and polished so many times, why not? You will instantly get better just trying to keep up with it.

And build orders are usually just an opening. You need your plan for the whole game ready. Like unit composition and expansion timings, pokes, etc.

VikingErik

Khazidhea wrote: »

You must have a build order. You can come up with your own, but probably you dont know much about the game to do that. Just steal some pro-build it's been worked out and polished so many times, why not? You will instantly get better just trying to keep up with it.

And build orders are usually just an opening. You need your plan for the whole game ready. Like unit composition and expansion timings, pokes, etc.

I think that spending the little time I have to play the game to learn build orders and timings would probably kill the fun for me. It's not about the winning for me. I'm enjoying the personal development. I have some loose knowledge of some openings, but I don't follow anything to a T. Maybe once I have more time or hit a brick wall as far as progression is concerned then I might give it a go, but right now I'm just trying to focus on my own mechanics and micro. Leave all that memorising crap til later. I'm fairly good at making decisions on the fly so I do the best I can with that. I've no desire to be all "hard core" devoted to this game.

I don't mind being low level. And I can usually understand why I lose the games that I do and I try to learn from that.

Khazidhea

Yeah if time is the issue then by all means just have fun.

VikingErik

Khazidhea wrote: »

Yeah if time is the issue then by all means just have fun.

Also, I'm getting a great sense of achievement in seeing how far I can ladder "by myself", you know.

MrPink262

hey guys ime just getting my head around build orders, been getting my asse kicked since i left the practice leagues!!!

MrPink#861

thats me if anyone fancies a game or 2

ime terran which ime not really a very good one at that,

vikingerik thanks for the thread redirection

VikingErik

MrPink - I added you. Hope to battle it out soon.

Anyone who isn't going to the LAN might still want to be online on saturday night as a whole bunch of us at the LAN will be available for games and you'll have the opportunity to join or observe through the magic that is the internet.

IRL_Sinister

VikingErik wrote: »

MrPink - I added you. Hope to battle it out soon.

Anyone who isn't going to the LAN might still want to be online on saturday night as a whole bunch of us at the LAN will be available for games and you'll have the opportunity to join or observe through the magic that is the internet.

Why would people not go to the LAN but be available that night? Madness I tell you :>

VikingErik

IRL_Sinister wrote: »

Why would people not go to the LAN but be available that night? Madness I tell you :>

Some people are notoriously lazy and simply prefer sitting at home playing with no pants on :P

Or even if you have another engagement, you're not likely to be doing stuff past 4am anyway, so it's good to keep in mind that we'll be gaming all night online.

IRL_Sinister

VikingErik wrote: »

Some people are notoriously lazy and simply prefer sitting at home playing with no pants on :P

Or even if you have another engagement, you're not likely to be doing stuff past 4am anyway, so it's good to keep in mind that we'll be gaming all night online.

Oh, I have plans all night ^^

VikingErik

IRL_Sinister wrote: »

Oh, I have plans all night ^^

I'm happy for you.

Arciphel

Viking Eric and Mr Pink, I just added you both there, hope ye don't mind. I'm a bronze Terran/Protoss, in the 20's in Bronze but finding it hard to push on. The stuff Viking Eric was saying about not playing the game just by learning off other's build orders appealed to me so will try and hit you up for a few games soon.

RoyalMarine

arciphel, im in a similar position, i dont like "learning" other people's builds. I watch some replays etc, and pick up tips, but when i play i prefer to just go with what feels right for me.

VikingErik

Arciphel wrote: »

Viking Eric and Mr Pink, I just added you both there, hope ye don't mind. I'm a bronze Terran/Protoss, in the 20's in Bronze but finding it hard to push on. The stuff Viking Eric was saying about not playing the game just by learning off other's build orders appealed to me so will try and hit you up for a few games soon.

Was that you last night? Sorry I couldn't. I was trying to get through my bonus pool of points in the ladder so that I'd have a chance to level up.

I will admit that my openings is a weakness of mine as I always seem to be behind my opponent when it comes to throwing down buildings.
As much as I don't follow build orders, one thing to try to stick to is to always be making workers. As long as you do that you'll find that you'll only have enough money at certain points to build production buildings. And don't build more supply pylons/overlords/depots than you need.

Then I usually scout after first supply building. Unless you decide to expand first but that's not recommended when you're mechanics are mediocre as any early pressure will crush you because your build is not optimised so your units will be out slower. Scouting is KEY though. Look for early pool with zerg, saved up chrono boost and gateways with protoss (if protoss has forge or is missing gateway when you have reached his base then his buildings are close to your base = trouble) and with terran you want to look for the gas and possible what the second building is. If it's two barracks no gas then it could be a fast marine rush (at least in my mind). Keep your scout alive as long as you can or leave it somewhere between your base and opponents. If you face early pressure you might have to abandon the "always make workers"-rule.

You need to learn what to look for and try to stay one step ahead. I'm sure people will have comments on what I've just said but I've done ok so far.

Later on once you start losing too much and it gets you down then you can start doing build orders. But you want to learn your mechanics first in my opinion, cause it's very easy to lose track of build orders and unit production when ****e starts going down.

I am currently failing in building enough production buildings when I have 3+ bases. You want to be able to produce from every building all the time. If a building isn't being used then it's a waste, although this can be used as a diversion. You opponent is always making decisions based on what he scouts (if he scouts). I like building a robo bay, but avoiding colossi against terran, because he'll make vikings that have no purpose. Mind games!

As much as I make it sound like I'm just playing by ear, there still is a lot of thinking that needs to go into this game. I might try to learn a few build orders soon because I've noticed that I always get caught off guard early on.

I'll play you next time I see you online.

Tenger

IRL_Sinister wrote: »

Why would people not go to the LAN but be available that night? Madness I tell you :>

I'll be in another country.........:(

Tenger

Arciphel wrote: »

Viking Eric and Mr Pink, I just added you both there, hope ye don't mind. I'm a bronze Terran/Protoss, in the 20's in Bronze but finding it hard to push on.

I'll be able to cram in games on Thursay night late as well as Friday evening, Sat morning. I friended ye both (MilkRain/MrPink) already. Lets show these masters how bad us Bronzetowners can be!

Bramble 974.

saini

If yous want a bronze practice partner message me whenever I am on and i may be able to play.

Saini
996

Zombrex

I currently 1st in my Bronze league division, trying to get out into Silver, more than happy to play a practice with anyone.

Just add me as a friend on battle.net, Wick 810

Arciphel

I'll definetely be on tonight if anyone else is around.

Sykth

Wow - sort of half forgot about this thread ! If you guys are cool with it I'll start adding you all for practice and the craic tonight all being well?!

Think I already added feanor - but I changed race so was practicing with the AI to solidify a few builds

Hopefully see you all in game soon

Arciphel

Sykth, can you edit the first post and put in a list of all the Battle.net IDs of everyone that is interested? Cheers Buddy!

Ravage1616

Hey Guys, Feel free to add me, Just recently start playing again, played for a few weeks at launch and some how got into gold, think I've only won 2 games so not sure how that happened! But looking to get some practice in, haven't won a game in a long time! in game = Roare #260

Edit: just Got demoted to silver! Still loosing haha

Sykth

Sure thing Arciphel I'll get on it now!

Sykth

Hmm I can't seem to edit my original post? Very strange!

Anyways here is all the b.net friend codes of the kind gamers looking games:

Feanor 980
Milkrain 939
mrPink 861
Bramble 974
Saini 996
Wick 810
Roare 260
RoyalMarine 574

And my Id is: Sykth 649

Cheers say hey in game!

RoyalMarine

Sykth, hope you dont mind, i added myself to the list