RTE pushing political agenda

paky

What is it with RTE? Last night there was a discussion about the Queens visit and there were 4 guests on it, 3 in favour and 1 against. Richard Boyd Barrett from the United Left Alliance was against the visit and raised some valid issues for opposing the visit like the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Yet anytime he had anything to say Tubridy would jump down his throat and make silly remarks like ''Perhaps you don't see it in this context'' and yaddi ya yah. The same problems were raised on the frontline, and anytime anyone was against it, they were immediately countered with silly arguments like''should we oppose the danish royal family'' completely taking what the person said out of context and undermining their opinions. So what is it with RTE, have they a poltical agenda?

johngalway

RBB is against everything.

Mark200

No they don't

Nodin

paky wrote: »

What is it with RTE? Last night there was a discussion about the Queens visit and there were 4 guests on it, 3 in favour and 1 against. Richard Boyd Barrett from the United Left Alliance was against the visit and raised some valid issues for opposing the visit like the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Yet anytime he had anything to say Tubridy would jump down his throat and make silly remarks like ''Perhaps you don't see it in this context'' and yaddi ya yah. The same problems were raised on the frontline, and anytime anyone was against it, they were immediately countered with silly arguments like''should we oppose the danish royal family'' completely taking what the person said out of context and undermining their opinions. So what is it with RTE, have they a poltical agenda?

Tubridy + not best representative for anti-side =/= agenda.

There has been an agenda on occassions in the past, but you'd need a lot more than that to convince me here.

OutlawPete

Strange, the FM104 debates on it were quite different.

squod

RTE are paid by you but think they are better than you, fact.

brimal

While i'm not a big fan of Boyd-Barrett, I do think he is eloquent and passionate for what he believes in.

Tubridy was rude and unprofessional as ever. I don't understand RTE's fascination with him. He's biased, rude and a bit of a d1ck to be honest.

Cakes.

I'd say 3:1 is probably the same ratio in the General Public too.

Pauleta

3 in favour and 1 against sound like they are being fair to the against side. To reflect public opinion it should of been 4 to 1.




PS Boyd-Barrett is a loon

ColeTrain

After seeing Turbridys interview with Richard Dawkins I'd be inclined to think he's just an idiot.

Liam Byrne

I'm confused.....the "context" is Anglo-Irish relations, and Boyd Barrett was pulled up on wanting to drag in other stuff....

.....and yet when Tubridy gives in and drags in other stuff like the Danish Royal Family, the OP then pulls out the "context" card again?

This coming week will be the test to see if the "war in Iraq" is actually the reason behind the objections....

I do object to the illegal war, but given that Ireland is complicit in it by allowing the Americans to use Shannon, I think we should get our own house in order before pointing fingers.

paky

Liam Byrne wrote: »

.....and yet when Tubridy gives in and drags in other stuff like the Danish Royal Family, the OP then pulls out the "context" card again?

that was pat kenny not tubridy

Nodin

Pauleta wrote: »

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PS Boyd-Barrett is a loon

...according to you, everyone you disagree with/on the left is a "loon". It becomes superflous as a remark after a while.

Nodin

brimal wrote: »

While i'm not a big fan of Boyd-Barrett, I do think he is eloquent and passionate for what he believes in.

Tubridy was rude and unprofessional as ever. I don't understand RTE's fascination with him. He's biased, rude and a bit of a d1ck to be honest.

.....shallow and smug. Don't forget shallow and smug.

Wheelie King

paky wrote: »

What is it with RTE? Last night there was a discussion about the Queens visit and there were 4 guests on it, 3 in favour and 1 against. Richard Boyd Barrett from the United Left Alliance was against the visit and raised some valid issues for opposing the visit like the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Yet anytime he had anything to say Tubridy would jump down his throat and make silly remarks like ''Perhaps you don't see it in this context'' and yaddi ya yah. The same problems were raised on the frontline, and anytime anyone was against it, they were immediately countered with silly arguments like''should we oppose the danish royal family'' completely taking what the person said out of context and undermining their opinions. So what is it with RTE, have they a poltical agenda?

RTE need to keep the elite and the advert revenue people happy and will push any agenda that fits into that box. These last few years have exposed RTE for what it really is. I expect them to encourage the suckers out there to get back buying houses soon enough with a raft of property programmes.

Liam Byrne

paky wrote: »

that was pat kenny not tubridy

OK - I stand corrected! My point still stands, though - the OP has double-standards.

Minstrel27

paky wrote: »

that was pat kenny not tubridy

I am sure Tubridy interviewed him also.

edit-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qvlt_atCZ3c

ejmaztec

Everybody's got an agenda, and everybody's persecuted, except me:(

AckwelFoley

ColeTrain wrote: »

After seeing Turbridys interview with Richard Dawkins I'd be inclined to think he's just an idiot.

Dawkins can make anyone look like an idiot - although i admire richard, i dont like his cusade against organised religion (even though i agree with him)

Nodin

ejmaztec wrote: »

Everybody's got an agenda, and everybody's persecuted, except me:(

Bastard!!! Be shut up.

Where is your moneys? Talk, or the weemin die!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pauleta

Nodin wrote: »

...according to you, everyone you disagree with/on the left is a "loon". It becomes superflous as a remark after a while.

I shall take your constructive criticism with grace. Im gonna start using "left wing whackjob" a bit more.

ColeTrain

snyper wrote: »

Dawkins can make anyone look like an idiot - although i admire richard, i dont like his cusade against organised religion (even though i agree with him)

I admire him for speaking out tbh. I would probably still be a agnostic only for him.

Back on topic, Dawkins didn't make Tubridy look like an idiot - he politely answered the daftest questions Tubridy could throw at him. While Ryan toed the RTE Catholic party line of course.

mgmt

paky wrote: »

What is it with RTE? Last night there was a discussion about the Queens visit and there were 4 guests on it, 3 in favour and 1 against. Richard Boyd Barrett from the United Left Alliance was against the visit and raised some valid issues for opposing the visit like the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Ireland has soldiers in Afganistan. Does Boyd-Barrett think our President should not be welcomed abroad then?

http://www.isaf.nato.int/troop-numbers-and-contributions/ireland/index.php

Badgermonkey

ColeTrain wrote: »

While Ryan toed the RTE Catholic party line of course.

Ya wha Gay?

Many within Catholic opinion would contend an anti-religious agenda.

RTE can't win tbh.

http://www.irishcatholic.ie/site/content/vatican-and-murphy-commission

RMD

mgmt wrote: »

Ireland has soldiers in Afganistan. Does Boyd-Barrett think our President should not be welcomed abroad then?

http://www.isaf.nato.int/troop-numbers-and-contributions/ireland/index.php

I wonder does he even realise if coalition forces weren't in Afghanistan the country would be ruled by Islamo-Fascists who deny basic human rights to Woman and have no problem killing / maiming people for the smallest of crimes.

Forest Master

OutlawPete wrote: »

Strange, the FM104 debates on it were quite different.

Relevance?

mike65

The naysayers are rapidly exhausting the angles to attack this visit with.

Richard Boyd Barrett made a quip about royalty and fishing trips last night I think. Well done Richard!

ColeTrain

Badgermonkey wrote: »

Ya wha Gay?

Many within Catholic opinion would contend an anti-religious agenda.

RTE can't win tbh.

http://www.irishcatholic.ie/site/content/vatican-and-murphy-commission

Tubridy was playing the Catholic card there.

Dawkins wasn't even on to discuss the God Delusion but his latest book. Tubridy turned it into Ireland vs Dawkins which was done a few years earlier.

later12

Well I opposed this visit from a financial point of view, but it wasn;t a crucial issue for me. I am actually delighted to learn that Irish people are so willing to part with a large sum of money, which appears to be in the region of €30m, without any objective cost benefit information.

My Nigerian oilfield opens next week. i shall describe the benefits in loose and ambiguous terms forthwith, if any interested patrons should like to support me in this venture. It will be wonderful for Hiberno-Nigerian relations and Irish tourism. Puppies too, for there will of course be puppies.

mike65

How much of that 30 million will be quickly rcouped in taxes on wages, esp overtime?

Sanjuro

Minstrel27 wrote: »

I am sure Tubridy interviewed him also.

edit-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qvlt_atCZ3c

I'm not a big fan of Dawkins, although I'd agree with the majority of what he says. However, Tubridy made an absolute ass of himself in that interview. Asking questions about 'Toytown' and the Easter bunny, he just came across as patronising, unprofessional and thick. I cant believe that RTE use him as the posterboy for the national broadcaster and that anybody takes him seriously.

paky

is tubridy suppose to be leaven this year for the bbc or something?

ejmaztec

Nodin wrote: »

Bastard!!! Be shut up.

Where is your moneys? Talk, or the weemin die!!!!!!!!!!!!

I knew there was something from my life, I must be persecuted after all.:(

later12

mike65 wrote: »

How much of that 30 million will be quickly rcouped in taxes on wages, esp overtime?

Some of it would be of course, but you could say the same for any stimulus, it doesn't make it efficient. You don't give me €100 if I promise to return €20 or €40. And nobody supports civil service pay increases on the basis that taxes diminish these increases.

Firstly, we don't know, on the bulk of the money, how these public service workers use it. It may sit in savings accounts, which is not an efficient use of a stimulus where the consumer economy is so weak. But without any data on how these public servants will use the money, we cannot extrapolate.

What is clear, and what we do know, is that there are unemployed people out there who do not save, and spend all of their earnings as consumers. By tripling the internship programme for the unemployed, not only could these individuals have been reintroduced to the workforce, update their skills, and gain valuable updated work references, they would also have continued to spend their money in the consumer economy as well as return a proportion of it to the exchequer via VAT and excise duties.

All I'm saying is that if one really must promote the financial aspect of the royal visit, one must be honest about it and admit that there appear to be far more efficient means to distributing such an economic benefit.

Of course many people ignore the expense (which is in itself always slightly amusing, given the economic climate) and support the trip based on its much sought after symbolism alone, and that's their perogative.

Personally I don't think we can afford €30m symbols any more than a bankrupt can afford gold chandeliers.

Zebra3

paky wrote: »

So what is it with RTE, have they a poltical agenda?

Of course they have a political agenda.

Thay have described the biggest heist in Irish history, the shifting of the debt of private institutions onto the backs of the taxpayer and the subsequent activities of the EU/IMF loansharks, as "a bailout for Ireland".

No human beings with a modicum of intelligence would describe it as so unless they were collaboraters.

Nodin

paky wrote: »

is tubridy suppose to be leaven this year for the bbc or something?

For the summer.

paky

Nodin wrote: »

For the summer.

pity its not for good. maybe he may see sense and stay over there

Badgermonkey

ColeTrain wrote: »

Tubridy was playing the Catholic card there.

That may well be so but the days of RTE instructing its staff to be guided by a prescribed pro-catholic ethos are thankfully long since passed.

Any baggage Tubridy brings is his and his alone.

Jesus Wept

RTE is in the governments pocket. They can smell my helmet.

ascanbe

The upper-ranks of RTE are 'special' people, part of the establishment along with our political masters, and really just seem like they wish that they didn't have to face the nuisance presented by the expectations of the 'ordinary' people.
That's why they seemed to so enjoy the hob-nobbing associated with the Royal visit and, certainly after the Obama visit, will be left bereft and wondering 'why can't it be like this all the time?'