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Crossroad query?

  • 20-05-2011 9:15pm
    #1
    hughjohn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 135 ✭✭


    OK am waiting to cross main road in my car. Traffic is passing.
    Another car approaches opposite me and indicates right. He waits too.
    When road clears I pull out and start to cross. Lunatic opposite pulls out at same time as turning right and yells abuse at me for not letting him go first.
    I am rusty at rules of road so did he have right of way?


Comments

  • #2
    OldmanMondeo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭OldmanMondeo


    If your turning left or going straight then he is wrong as he has to cross your lane to get where he wants to be.

    If your both turning right, then your both wrong.


  • #3
    Cliona99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭Cliona99


    I'm rusty too, but I think he did have right of way because he was crossing one lane while you were crossing two. If you'd been turning left, you'd have right of way, then him turning right, then the person crossing the main road.


  • #4
    mickdw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    If you were going straight, you had right of way.


  • #5
    hughjohn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 135 ✭✭hughjohn


    Looks like I'm not the only one confused.


  • #6
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    It's equal priority, really - and, have ye forgotten how to 'hook' at times like this ?

    j&r_junctions_turning-right-at-crossroads-back.jpg

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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  • #7
    slimjimmc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,786 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    hughjohn wrote: »
    Looks like I'm not the only one confused.
    So tell us which way you were going. straight ahead, left, or right? It has a big effect on the answer to your OP.


  • #8
    bladebrew
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭bladebrew


    the way i read it is that the op was going straight ahead and the other car was waiting to turn right across the op`s path:confused:

    that would mean the other person is indeed a lunatic:)


  • #9
    coylemj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,624 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    bladebrew wrote: »
    the way i read it is that the op was going straight ahead and the other car was waiting to turn right across the op`s path:confused:

    that would mean the other person is indeed a lunatic:)

    That's my reading too, RoTR (p.99) says as follows.....

    If you are turning right at a junction, the traffic coming straight through the junction from the opposite direction has right of way.

    So the OP has the right of way.


  • #10
    coylemj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,624 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    galwaytt wrote: »
    It's equal priority, really - and, have ye forgotten how to 'hook' at times like this ?

    j&r_junctions_turning-right-at-crossroads-back.jpg

    Yes we have forgotten because most crossroads (in Dublin anyway) are marked with white squares where traffic turning right is supposed to wait for the oncoming traffic to clear and hooking is clearly not expected based on where they paint the white squares these days.


  • #11
    hughjohn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 135 ✭✭hughjohn


    bladebrew wrote: »
    the way i read it is that the op was going straight ahead and the other car was waiting to turn right across the op`s path:confused:

    that would mean the other person is indeed a lunatic:)

    That is correct. As I did state in the OP I was waiting to cross the road ie cross straight over.


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  • #12
    hughjohn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 135 ✭✭hughjohn


    galwaytt wrote: »
    It's equal priority, really - and, have ye forgotten how to 'hook' at times like this ?

    j&r_junctions_turning-right-at-crossroads-back.jpg

    Not applicable as I was going straight over.


  • #13
    jaffa20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭jaffa20


    hughjohn wrote: »
    That is correct. As I did state in the OP I was waiting to cross the road ie cross straight over.

    Then you had right of way. Don't mind the guy shouting abuse. Many don't know the rules of the road. We could have a poll on this and it would even show the difference of opinion like that recent famous roundabout thread/poll:D


  • #14
    slimjimmc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,786 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    Cliona99 wrote: »
    I'm rusty too, but I think he did have right of way because he was crossing one lane while you were crossing two. If you'd been turning left, you'd have right of way, then him turning right, then the person crossing the main road.

    The lanes on the other road don't come into it, and neither does the number of lanes to be crossed; they're not a basis (neither legally nor by convention) for determining priority. In the absence of road signs, priority is generally based on the rule : Anyone who needs to cross the path of another vehicle must give way.

    As HughJohn was going straight ahead the other driver would have had to cross into HughJohn's path in order to complete his right turn, and thus the other driver is required to yield right of way. It's basic traffic law which every driver is expected to know and apply.


  • #15
    cormie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,844 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    Take a look at this thread, good discussion on similar: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054875255

    The outcome agreed was that nobody has right of way :o


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