Joining family in Ireland

LegacyUser

Hi all.
My ex partner is living in Ireland with my son and step son. I wish to come to Ireland from the UK to join them. I have aplace sorted where I can live. I have been searching for a job for a few months now but so far no luck. Both here in the UK and in Ireland the job market is pretty bleak at the moment. 4 million unemployed in UK and around 400,000 in Ireland.
My question is, if I come to Ireland will I be able to get JSA? I know this is far from ideal, and the last thing I want to do is come to Ireland to claim benefits. I have worked all my life up untill Jan 2010, and have unfortunately been unemployed since. Please don't think that i'm just another person coming into the person to start sponging off the welfare state. I am a qualified and experienced fire alarm engineer, as well as having an LGV C licence, and having around 10 yrs experience of working in warehouse environments. So hopefully a job will come along soon.
I have been apart from my son for too long and would love to be able to join him in Ireland.
I understand I will have to satisfy the Habitual Residence condition. What are your thoughts on me being able to pass this condition and recieve JSA?
Again, this is not something I have planned, and do not wish to claim benefits in Ireland or UK. I find it demoralising and hate having to sign on etc. But jobs are few and far between anywhere at the moment, and things aren't going to improve for a while imo.
Thank you for any advice.

gustafo

well if you worked in the uk you can get your stamps transferred over here, so whatever dole that you would be entitled to in the uk you may be able to get that amount transferred here.

TimmyE

I was in a similar situation back in January. I've come over to support my Mum - looking after my Dad who is seriously ill.

I applied for JSA in early March, having been here just over a month at that point.
I was turned down on the basis of not being habitually resident in Ireland.

At that point I still had a UK bank account open & this was cited as being the predominant reason, as well as having not applied for a job in the ROI.
Given that my Mum & I are giving my dad round-the-clock support between us, without any other form of assitance, I currently have no idea as and when I may be able to do so, even on a temporary or part-time basis.

I too have paid all UK taxes, National Insurance etc until 2 days before moving here (left work on the 15th of Jan, arrived here on the 17th).

To correct gustafo, you are not entitled to collect UK dole here, you can apply for the Irish version however.

If you fail to pass Habitual Residence, as I understand it, you cannot re-apply for 6 months. You can appeal against the decision, but I came to the conclusion it would prove to be more hassle than it's worth, at least in my case.

Probably not very useful, but hope it gives you some sort of insight!

Tim

tenchi-fan

I don't suggest you come here without first having work, or a lot of money saved.

If you are currently claiming benefits in the UK you may be able to transfer them temporarily to Ireland. Have a look here:
http://ec.europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/work/jobseeker/faq/index_en.htm

LegacyUser

Thanks for all the advice, its very much appreciated.
It's a horrible situation to be in, going to another country and asking for benefits. Receiving benefits in my own country was a bad enough experience.
I have copies of all emails I've been sending to companies over the past few months, I could print these out if they would be any help. Rarely get a reply though
I've been looking into the habitual residence, and talking to my ex partner. It seems to be very difficult, there are no actual minimum requirements etc, and seems to be mostly down to the persons discretion who deals with your claim.
Thanks again.

swoofer

NB Very important get a PPSN no as quick as possible. Its like an NI no and save untold hassle.

look here

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/irish_social_welfare_system/personal_public_service_number.html

good luck


gb-

eastbono

TimmyE wrote: »

I was in a similar situation back in January. I've come over to support my Mum - looking after my Dad who is seriously ill.

I applied for JSA in early March, having been here just over a month at that point.
I was turned down on the basis of not being habitually resident in Ireland.

At that point I still had a UK bank account open & this was cited as being the predominant reason, as well as having not applied for a job in the ROI.
Given that my Mum & I are giving my dad round-the-clock support between us, without any other form of assitance, I currently have no idea as and when I may be able to do so, even on a temporary or part-time basis.

I too have paid all UK taxes, National Insurance etc until 2 days before moving here (left work on the 15th of Jan, arrived here on the 17th).

To correct gustafo, you are not entitled to collect UK dole here, you can apply for the Irish version however.

If you fail to pass Habitual Residence, as I understand it, you cannot re-apply for 6 months. You can appeal against the decision, but I came to the conclusion it would prove to be more hassle than it's worth, at least in my case.

Probably not very useful, but hope it gives you some sort of insight!

Tim

If you are giving you father round the clock care you would not be eligible for JSA as you would not be available for work.