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Educate me

  • 16-05-2011 8:31pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,917 ✭✭✭✭


    Ok,

    following on from the "Weight Watcher ... to join, or go it alone" thread, I got thinking ...

    Weightwatchers is working well for me, I've lost 28lbs in 3 months(2lbs/week). I'm still pointing my food, but have a good idea what my 'correct' protion size is now.

    People in the affore mentioned thread were saying to learn about food and the rest will take care of it self.

    I eat a salad a day, veg with my dinner when I can, 3-4 pieces of fruit daily, very little bread, love my meat(I know that sounds bad).

    How do you know that the food you are taking in is enough to sustain you and your excerise?

    I'm open to be educated .... just not to complicated


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    It's the same advice people give out in thread after thread.
    Read This thread for example.
    Read the stickies, especially this one.

    Basically eat clean whole fresh foods whose only ingredient is themselves. Eat them when you're hungry and stop when you're full. simples.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141




  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭El_Dangeroso


    Loving meat is never bad.:cool:

    Serious answer: It's sounds like you're doing a lot of things right.

    You probably know what a normal portion looks like, you cook home dinners and your laying off the bad stuff and eating a lot of veg. Just do the same without counting. Increase fat in little increments if you're hungry.

    I suppose if there's one bad weight watchers habit is using fake fats instead of natural ones. Use proper unprocessed fats and steer clear of vegetable oils.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    @ menoscemo: I don't think it's at all as simple as that.

    Personally, it wasn't good enough for me just to be told to do something. I needed to know why, biologically, I should do it. I also needed to have terms such as poly-unsaturated, mono-unsaturated and saturated fat explained to me. I needed to know what complex and simple carbohydrates were and how they are digested and converted to energy. I needed to learn the caloric qualities of various foods. I needed to learn that saturated fat is good and that low fat is bad - and I needed to learn WHY this is so.

    I needed to learn about sugar and how it is converted to glycogen and transported around the body. I needed to learn about meal frequency, and that it's okay to eat before bed. I needed to learn that you do NOT have to drink pints of water each day, and I needed to learn about BMRs, TDEEs, body mass composition, micronutrients, realistic expectations, and the perceived merits of certain exercises vs their actual merits.

    There was a lot for me to learn, and a hell of a lot of nonsense for me to unlearn, too. Luckily any poster who wants to learn it will get good answers here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Tremelo wrote: »
    @ menoscemo: I don't think it's at all as simple as that.

    Fair enough point, I am a curious soul myself and need to know the why for everything. However I have no doubt that if an overweight person were to eat only clean, fresh, whole foods, they would most certainly lose weight without really having to count the calories.

    It's hard to give a definitive answer to GT's question as we could literally write a book! Maybe it is best he tries to educate himself and come back with any specific questions he may have?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,917 ✭✭✭✭GT_TDI_150


    Loving meat is never bad.:cool:

    Serious answer: It's sounds like you're doing a lot of things right.

    You probably know what a normal portion looks like, you cook home dinners and your laying off the bad stuff and eating a lot of veg. Just do the same without counting. Increase fat in little increments if you're hungry.

    I suppose if there's one bad weight watchers habit is using fake fats instead of natural ones. Use proper unprocessed fats and steer clear of vegetable oils.

    :confused:


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭El_Dangeroso


    GT_TDI_150 wrote: »
    :confused:

    No sunflower oil, corn oil, veg oil, stir-fry 'sprays', fake-butter spreads.

    Instead butter, coconut oil, ghee, red palm oil, macadamia nut oil, olive oil.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭metamorphosis


    Yeah-tremolo had a great way with words with his above post - knowledge is power really. Once you know the why,what,where,when,how etc - it really helps solidify better nutritional habits and help break an emotional link with eating

    El D - any linkies onto interesting reading about this red palm oil you keep going on about? I haven't seen it about.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭El_Dangeroso


    El D - any linkies onto interesting reading about this red palm oil you keep going on about? I haven't seen it about.

    In work so can't link to it all but there is loads of stuff on red palm oil. They use it to treat malnutrition in africa.

    Here's a good overview from the point of heart disease:
    http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2010/07/tropical-plant-fats-palm-oil.html

    But it's also excellent for skin and a tiny tiny trial suggesting that the tocotrienols in it may prevent balding to some degree (VERY early days in that research so I don't want to get anyone's hopes up!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭metamorphosis


    I don't know how i missed that one above. Thanks, il stop been lazy and go look for myself!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭Monife


    In work so can't link to it all but there is loads of stuff on red palm oil. They use it to treat malnutrition in africa.

    Here's a good overview from the point of heart disease:
    http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2010/07/tropical-plant-fats-palm-oil.html

    But it's also excellent for skin and a tiny tiny trial suggesting that the tocotrienols in it may prevent balding to some degree (VERY early days in that research so I don't want to get anyone's hopes up!)

    My partner is African and use red palm oil. You can get it in any African shop, if living in Dublin, Moore Street is your best bet.

    They use it for everything, but mostly in cooking. My partner had a nasty cold sore and it put it on his lip and it was gone in 2 days. I was shocked to say the least.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭El_Dangeroso


    It's got a lovely nutty flavour too. Some who don't like the strong flavour of coconut oil would like the flavour of this I think.

    It really is the most nutritious fat that I've ever come across.


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