Science common entry options that lead to valid graduate medicine entry

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Science common entry options that lead to valid graduate medicine entry ?

Hi Everyone at Boards.ie reading this
Im new and was looking to do science(common entry) and then go onto do Graduate Medicine at Trinity college dublin.
When I read trough the information reguarding the course , it talks about how you have 60 credits and you get to pick a number of options (if you will) that add up to 60credits ....
some are 20 creidts , some are 10 ect...

What combination of these options would best fit the Graduate medicine program requirments.

Cheers,
vPv

Jammyc

vPv wrote: »

Science common entry options that lead to valid graduate medicine entry ?

Hi Everyone at Boards.ie reading this
Im new and was looking to do science(common entry) and then go onto do Graduate Medicine at Trinity college dublin.
When I read trough the information reguarding the course , it talks about how you have 60 credits and you get to pick a number of options (if you will) that add up to 60credits ....
some are 20 creidts , some are 10 ect...

What combination of these options would best fit the Graduate medicine program requirments.

Cheers,
vBv

There is no Graduate Entry Medicine programme at Trinity. There are 4/5 other colleges that do have them, cant remember all of them, but I know UCD, RCSI, and UL do.

Secondly, what modules you do or what your degree is in doesnt make any difference to your application for Graduate Entry to Medicine, all that matters is that it is at least a II.1.

The credits system is just to kind of compare workloads across Europe. 1 year is normally 60 credits and is supposed to reflect 1200 hours of work over that year. Thats why some modules are worth 10, 20 or 5 credits.

For going into GradMed, you'd be best picking something health-science related though, like biochemistry or physiology, but like I said, it won't make any difference to your application. Places are allocated according to your score on the GAMSAT.

NeuroCat

I am intending to take graduate medicine myself once I finish the common entry science degree, I'm currently in second year.

As far as I am aware you can apply for graduate medicine with any degree, although a grounding in a scientific field would obviously be an advantage for the GAMSAT exam. You must also attain a 2:1 (Upper second class honour) in your degree to apply.

I would recommend Biology, Chemistry and Maths Methods along with another 10 credits of your choice (Foundation Physics or Geology). I took these modules myself as they gave the most choice for degree options in 3rd year and they did seem the most relevent to health sciences. However, you can also take a range of other modules if you'd prefer. Maths or Maths Methods (A 10 credit module which is much more simple than pure Maths) are required for the majority of degree programmes in 3rd year.

In the end, I would recommend you choose your subjects based on interest first then based on relevance to medicine as you can apply for the GAMSAT with any level 8 degree.

(Jammy made several good points aswell, posted just after his!)

I hope this helps!

vPv

Jammyc wrote: »

There is no Graduate Entry Medicine programme at Trinity. There are 4/5 other colleges that do have them, cant remember all of them, but I know UCD, RCSI, and UL do.

Secondly, what modules you do or what your degree is in doesnt make any difference to your application for Graduate Entry to Medicine, all that matters is that it is at least a II.1.

The credits system is just to kind of compare workloads across Europe. 1 year is normally 60 credits and is supposed to reflect 1200 hours of work over that year. Thats why some modules are worth 10, 20 or 5 credits
For going into GradMed, you'd be best picking something health-science related though, like biochemistry or physiology, but like I said, it won't make any difference to your application. Places are allocated according to your score on the GAMSAT.

Thank Jammyc , I heard people saying that trinity do it ? hmm...ucd sounds good.Yeah I know what you mean about the science subjects like chemistry , biology , physiology ect..
Im not sure what you mean by a II.1 ,are you refearing to the scoring system in college ...Ive read people saying II.1 ..but never understood it
could you send me a link on it or give a few words about it ?

Thanks,
vPv

vPv

NeuroCat wrote: »

I am intending to take graduate medicine myself once I finish the common entry science degree, I'm currently in second year.

As far as I am aware you can apply for graduate medicine with any degree, although a grounding in a scientific field would obviously be an advantage for the GAMSAT exam. You must also attain a 2:1 (Upper second class honour) in your degree to apply.

I would recommend Biology, Chemistry and Maths Methods along with another 10 credits of your choice (Foundation Physics or Geology). I took these modules myself as they gave the most choice for degree options in 3rd year and they did seem the most relevent to health sciences. However, you can also take a range of other modules if you'd prefer. Maths or Maths Methods (A 10 credit module which is much more simple than pure Maths) are required for the majority of degree programmes in 3rd year.

In the end, I would recommend you choose your subjects based on interest first then based on relevance to medicine as you can apply for the GAMSAT with any level 8 degree.

(Jammy made several good points aswell, posted just after his!)

I hope this helps!

Ok brilliant ...So like I could do my science degree in Trinity then go to ucd for the GAMSAT .."4 years of prep on the side yeh know for the GAMSAT"

Also how are you finding the course ..what college / institute are you attending ?

Jammyc

vPv wrote: »

Thank Jammyc , I heard people saying that trinity do it ? hmm...ucd sounds good.Yeah I know what you mean about the science subjects like chemistry , biology , physiology ect..
Im not sure what you mean by a II.1 ,are you refearing to the scoring system in college ...Ive read people saying II.1 ..but never understood it
could you send me a link on it or give a few words about it ?

Thanks,
vPv

Hmm, well according to the prospectus, there's no graduate entry course.

Yeah thats the scoring system. A 2.1 is 60-69% normally.

NeuroCat

I haven't decided where I plan to apply for, for medicine but I'm considering RCSI and some colleges in England.

The Trinity science degree is very good, it's quite broadly based in first year and second year so you get a very good grounding in several fields. For example in second year you can study topics ranging from Biochemistry to Evolution.

The scoring sytem in Trinity is as follows:

70% and above = 1:1 First Class Honours
60% - 69% = 2:1 Upper Second Class Honours
50% - 59% = 2:2 Lower Second Class Honours
40% - 49% = 3 A pass
Under 40% is a fail.

vPv

Jammyc wrote: »

Hmm, well according to the prospectus, there's no graduate entry course.

Yeah thats the scoring system. A 2.1 is 60-69% normally.

So is you overall score in college an Average of all your examinations in each semester combined /?
2.1 is hard to get then i assume...how many hours study are you talking to achieve this ...do you need to become a proper nerd ...is it possible for the social student ?

Thanks,
vPv

vPv

NeuroCat wrote: »

I haven't decided where I plan to apply for, for medicine but I'm considering RCSI and some colleges in England.

The Trinity science degree is very good, it's quite broadly based in first year and second year so you get a very good grounding in several fields. For example in second year you can study topics ranging from Biochemistry to Evolution.

The scoring sytem in Trinity is as follows:

70% and above = 1:1 First Class Honours
60% - 69% = 2:1 Upper Second Class Honours
50% - 59% = 2:2 Lower Second Class Honours
40% - 49% = 3 A pass
Under 40% is a fail.

RCSI - Where is that , never heard of it until now.
Yeh I was just looking at them there ...Id love to do geology!..I love geography and biology.

It depends on what you mean by "nerd" and "social".

You can get a II.I and still have a social life. But to me, a social life is hanging out with friends, down the pub for a quiet one once a week and one proper night out on the lash once a week (or once every two weeks depending on workload). If you're talking all night partying 3 nights a week, then you'll probably have to take it a bit easier than that.

It's largely a case of applying yourself. If this is something you really really want, it's totally doable. I'm a bit of a slacker myself so I'm just hoping to pass this year (2nd year), but your final grade for your degree is only counted on a bit of 3rd year and then mostly 4th year work, so for 1st and 2nd year you just have to put in enough effort to show you care and have a slight aptitude. You could probably spend first year partying and still do ok. A mature student told me that in his interview for the course they as good as told him that first year is just to get you used to college, it's not really hard (although it does seem a bit hard at the time).

Now, even though it's doable, bear in mind that 60% in college is a LOT different to 60% in secondary school. In secondary school, getting your facts right gets you 100%, whereas in college, to get 70% you really have to have put in extra effort, shown initiative, progressed further than the lectures (ie. show signs of extra reading) AND gotten all your facts right. I'd be chuffed to pass my exams this year, but for next year, if I want to do well in my degree I'm going to have to seriously readjust my effort levels.

Edit: Just saw your last post there, RCSI is the Royal College of Surgeons, surprised you haven't heard of it, give it a google. As for geology/geography, you're in luck as they are seen as slightly easier than the Chemistry option.