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If a tree falls

  • 13-05-2011 7:00pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭


    and there is nobody around to here it, does it really fall. Before answering, think and contemplate, then the answer will come.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 302 ✭✭thehairyelbow


    What kind of a tree is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    are those my feet?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    if i tell you i can float and you believe that i can float can i really float?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭Daniel S


    Em, that's a retarded question....

    The question is:

    If a tree falls, and nobody is around to hear it....

    Does it make a sound?

    EDIT:
    The definitive answer is NO.

    Technically, sound does not exist. All sound is is sensory receptors in your ear that perceive vibrations in the air surrounding us that our brain perceives as sound. Therefore, sound only exists if there is indeed some organism that can take that stimulus and turn it into a thought process that recognizes it as sound.

    So if a tree falls in the woods and nobody is around to hear it, all that happens is vibrations run through the air. No sound actually emanates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 816 ✭✭✭dr strangelove


    and if it lands on Jedward does anyone care?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭Thatnastyboy


    and there is nobody around to here it, does it really fall. Before answering, think and contemplate, then the answer will come.

    Im the answer, and i just came.

    This guy is a faakin genious

    EDIT:

    If a tree falls in the woods and im ridin yer ma, what sound will she make?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭Thrill


    If a tree falls, it falls. Does it matter if anyone hears?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭Contemplating Aristotle


    Thrill wrote: »
    If a tree falls, it falls. Does it matter if anyone hears?

    But how could one hear it if they were not there to witness it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 864 ✭✭✭Kxiii


    If my gran falls and nobody is around does she make a sound.

    Only kidding she's dead.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    who gives a hairy ass f*ck


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭Daniel S


    and there is nobody around to here it, does it really fall. Before answering, think and contemplate, then the answer will come.

    Tbh, that question, along with your spelling/grammar, is a disgrace to Aristotle....

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭Thrill


    But how could one hear it if they were not there to witness it?

    Let me put it this way.....

    If a tree falls in the woods and no-one is around to hear it, would anyone give a fcuk?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 410 ✭✭JohnathanM


    mtb_kng wrote: »
    Tbh, that question, along with your spelling/grammar, is a disgrace to Aristotle....

    :rolleyes:

    Yeah, his English was much better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    and there is nobody around to here it, does it really fall. Before answering, think and contemplate, then the answer will come.

    Did this happen during the Queen's visit to The Republic of Ireland, and was the tree planted by the IRA?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    This thread fails epically. I want those 2 minutes of my life back OP.

    Plus €25,000 in damages for emotional trauma caused by some of the replies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭Daniel S


    JohnathanM wrote: »
    Yeah, his English was much better.

    Ah don't get too serious now, it is AH after all :D

    Anyway, I meant the question, the grammar was sort of a side order :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭CreepingDeath


    and there is nobody around to here it, does it really fall. Before answering, think and contemplate, then the answer will come.

    It depends on if you believe in the "nothing is real until it is observed" version of quantum physics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Wait a second, you created a boards.ie account specifically to post that question of all fecking questions?

    /mindfúck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭Daniel S


    It depends on if you believe in the "nothing is real until it is observed" version of quantum physics.

    I think I'm going to start crying at this point....


    *unfollow*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭Duiske


    But how could one hear it if they were not there to witness it?

    Fair point. Bit like me telling someone that there is a ****e thread in AH, started by some weed smok'in wannabe lumberjack, harping on about trees falling or some ****e like that. How would they know it's a ****e thread unless they actually seen this ****e for themselves ?

    The mind boogies. :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭Thrill


    sdonn wrote: »
    Wait a second, you created a boards.ie account specifically to post that question of all fecking questions?

    /mindfúck

    If he created the thread and no-one clicked on it, would the question exist?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭cosmicfart


    and there is nobody around to here it, does it really fall. Before answering, think and contemplate, then the answer will come.

    Yes the tree falls. Its not thinking about humans!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    mtb_kng wrote: »
    Tbh, that question, along with your spelling/grammar, is a disgrace to Aristotle....

    :rolleyes:

    Here, here! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,076 ✭✭✭Eathrin


    lol this guy believes he's all philosphical and shít:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    If I put my ass to your nose, and farted, when you inhaled through your nostrils, would you smell it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 318 ✭✭Kaneda_


    If a tree falls ,but the tree isnt really a tree its a big massive bottle of cidona, does the cidona spill everywhere?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    if a fat lass falls in the forest do the trees laugh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 866 ✭✭✭RussellTuring


    Reality isn't contingent on human experience so yes it does indeed fall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,064 ✭✭✭pavb2


    mtb_kng wrote: »
    Em, that's a retarded question....

    The question is:

    If a tree falls, and nobody is around to hear it....

    Does it make a sound?

    EDIT:
    The definitive answer is NO.

    Technically, sound does not exist. All sound is is sensory receptors in your ear that perceive vibrations in the air surrounding us that our brain perceives as sound. Therefore, sound only exists if there is indeed some organism that can take that stimulus and turn it into a thought process that recognizes it as sound.

    So if a tree falls in the woods and nobody is around to hear it, all that happens is vibrations run through the air. No sound actually emanates.
    What if you'd recorded it on CCTV (with sound) and and watched it later?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭Contemplating Aristotle


    Reality isn't contingent on human experience so yes it does indeed fall.

    How can you know this?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭Contemplating Aristotle


    Cian A wrote: »
    lol this guy believes he's all philosphical and shít:pac:

    I study philosophy in college, that is all you need to know.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    How can you know this?
    Because it fell. You said so yourself :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭Thrill


    pavb2 wrote: »
    What if you'd recorded it on CCTV (with sound) and and watched it later?


    Not allowed. Trees are covered under the Data Protection Act.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,064 ✭✭✭pavb2


    Thrill wrote: »
    Not allowed. Trees are covered under the Data Protection Act.
    Even if it fell on someone and killed them and there was a Gardai investigation?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 866 ✭✭✭RussellTuring


    How can you know this?

    I wouldn't say "know", but I'm not a solipsist.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    cosmicfart wrote: »
    Yes the tree falls. Its not thinking about humans!
    I'd say its the opposite and it kinda is all about humans. Particles behave differently when observed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭18AD


    Reality isn't contingent on human experience so yes it does indeed fall.

    The concept 'falling' is non-applicable without human subjects.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭Nadser


    mtb_kng wrote: »
    Em, that's a retarded question....

    The question is:

    If a tree falls, and nobody is around to hear it....

    Does it make a sound?

    EDIT:
    The definitive answer is NO.

    Technically, sound does not exist. All sound is is sensory receptors in your ear that perceive vibrations in the air surrounding us that our brain perceives as sound. Therefore, sound only exists if there is indeed some organism that can take that stimulus and turn it into a thought process that recognizes it as sound.

    So if a tree falls in the woods and nobody is around to hear it, all that happens is vibrations run through the air. No sound actually emanates.

    Depends on how you define sound really ... :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 932 ✭✭✭DualFrontDiscs


    and there is nobody around to here it, does it really fall. Before answering, think and contemplate, then the answer will come.
    What tree?

    DFD.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭18AD


    What tree?

    DFD.

    I'll meet you on O'Connell bridge at midnight and we'll go find it. It fell about two weeks ago.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    I study philosophy in college, that is all you need to know.

    well that's a bummer for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 932 ✭✭✭DualFrontDiscs


    18AD wrote: »
    It fell about two weeks ago.

    Did it?

    DFD.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 932 ✭✭✭DualFrontDiscs


    Did it?

    DFD.

    Was it?

    DFD.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭cesc77


    Ffs.Cat in a box question.

    There are currently stars exploding and galaxies colliding that we can neither see nor hear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭18AD


    cesc77 wrote: »
    Ffs.Cat in a box question.

    There are currently stars exploding and galaxies colliding that we can neither see nor hear.

    Pics or it didn't happen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭AhSureTisGrand


    and there is nobody around to here it, does it really fall. Before answering, think and contemplate, then the answer will come.

    Can we not accept that if a tree falls, it fùcking falls? This has nothing to do with observation. Let's put the question some other ways:

    If y=1, find y

    If my car is blue, what colour is my car?

    If this is a dumb question, then is this a dumb question?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 932 ✭✭✭DualFrontDiscs


    Can we not accept that if a tree falls, it fùcking falls? This has nothing to do with observation. Let's put the question some other ways:

    If y=1, find y

    If my car is blue, what colour is my car?

    If this is a dumb question, then is this a dumb question?

    Never accept the premise of a question.

    Is there a tree? Does it fall? Is there nobody/ no thing there to hear it (note not observe it)? There's lots of ways to put the question.

    Is your car blue?

    DFD.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭cesc77


    Bloody photons changing their behaviour depending on an observer.Havent got a link now(Double slit experiment I think).Does this end the argument or just start it????!:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,408 ✭✭✭Captain_Generic


    cesc77 wrote: »
    Bloody photons changing their behaviour depending on an observer.Havent got a link now(Double slit experiment I think).Does this end the argument or just start it????!:confused:

    Depends on the reader


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭cesc77


    Have I wonned it?:pac:


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